I also strongly disagree with you on OO. Usually in games i could flip a coin and that would tell me OO's alignment more accurately than me trying to read his posts and figure out his alignment. I don't think i have ever been right on him when i have been town, every time i call him town he ends up being scum and vice versa. Me even being able to have a townread on him (and having confidence in it) is why for me he is town. When he has been talking he has been talking about stuff he has imo been talking about important stuff and mirroresd my thoughts pretty well. I don't understand where you get this "Hi guys, I'm here and reading and am townie just like you!" thing. Could you elaborate more on that?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 25 2013 14:49 GMT

#3423

And btw JAT, yes, i play differently in big games than i play in minis.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 25 2013 14:53 GMT

#3424

Overslept, phone posting to answer some questions and catch up on thread:

On September 25 2013 14:35 Mocsta wrote:
Well.. give stutters more time.. there's 6 scum and he's sick.

Btw. U want to know why sentinel is confirmed scum?

He fucken stated he skimmed vers guide... Seriously.. lol.. talk about over compensation
I'm pretty sure he did this as scum in smurf mini as well

I was VT in smurf... I skimmed Ver's guide during Doctor Who mafia, aka when I signed up for the 5 games simultaneously. Haven't looked at it since.

On September 25 2013 21:35 Mocsta wrote:

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Filter DIve.. i have a lot of problems with his play including inconsistencies, and i didnt like his explanation stories.

also noticed all his scum reads are based on other ppl making accusations first (yet he doesnt sell the story this way)

When I posted my read on FirmTofu I explicitly stated Marv was the initial accuser, followed by Pandain, and after that I added in some insight of my own. My Day 1 cases I just pulled what I could from filters. Like I said before, Day 1 has always overwhelmed me and after it passes I can generally get a good grip on the game.

Haven't been scum since Redux.

iamperfection

United States9646 Posts

September 25 2013 15:57 GMT

#3425

its a tomb in here

people comment on what i have said about risen

you can check a recent town game here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&user=Risen

i would say his play this game has been different and most importantly different in a scummy way in that he seems much more in the background then he was in that game.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 25 2013 16:01 GMT

#3426

On September 26 2013 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
its a tomb in here

people comment on what i have said about risen

you can check a recent town game here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&user=Risen

i would say his play this game has been different and most importantly different in a scummy way in that he seems much more in the background then he was in that game.

He doesn't do 'this' as mafia either.

What of it?

iamperfection

United States9646 Posts

September 25 2013 16:04 GMT

#3427

On September 26 2013 01:01 marvellosity wrote:

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He doesn't do 'this' as mafia either.

What of it?

so what has he done this game that makes him town?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 25 2013 16:08 GMT

#3428

what's he done that makes him mafia?

Risen is much coinflippier than Cephiro.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 25 2013 16:09 GMT

#3429

Risen has actually supplied scumreads and reasonings, and doesn't pathetically excuse his absence repeatedly.

Your push of him is stretching my credulity.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 25 2013 16:11 GMT

#3430

Leaning scum on Risen. His play is completely different from his townplay in GoT, completely different from his play in Aperture (third faction). I checked his mafia games a while ago and they are also completely different from this game. So no meta applies to Risen in this game (his mafia games were also before his break in mafia).

He doesn't seem to give a fuck about this game and that makes me think he's scum. In his recent games he has been town/3p and he has given fucks about the game.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 25 2013 16:12 GMT

#3431

I can understand leaning scum on Risen, what I can't understand is him being the primary lynch

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 25 2013 16:14 GMT

#3432

Yeah i don't think he should be lynched today.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

September 25 2013 16:17 GMT

#3433

Wheres yam, thats my dude right now

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 25 2013 16:27 GMT

#3434

The lynch is ~12 hours from now. marv do you think Cephiro is a better lynch than Pandain? Everyone should also get their votes off Mattchew and start commenting on Cephiro/Pandain.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 25 2013 16:31 GMT

#3435

I'll probably make up my mind later depending on what they both post. As of now I'm not sure, yamato seems pretty happy with Ceph, so there we go.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 25 2013 16:32 GMT

#3436

I like the change in Marv's play style since last time I checked the theeaf.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

September 25 2013 16:35 GMT

#3437

Pandain is a decent lynch. His case on me D1 was very wrong and misconstrued many posts to paint me as suspicious. He has a case on Sentinel D1, and D2 he puts more suspicion on Sentinel then says he is hesitant to lynch him in the same post... He wants to kill Stutters too but I haven't see much of that. Stutters seemed pretty town to me at some point, I remember thinking "Stutters isn't being completely useless and bad, that's different, probably stepping it up as town".

Ceph is just a lurker lynch, which is cool.

I'll vote Pandain for great justice!

##Vote: Pandain