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i still would not believe you are mafia.
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it would. i still would not believe you are mafia. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:51 justanothertownie wrote: Man you had me scared there with the modkill... I have no idea why I would be modkilled for this reading the rules. I was under impression you can't post screenshots because usually in games it could confirm masons etc.. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:55 Zaragon wrote: I don't like how we've shifted off people who voted Chairman Ray. It's almost impossible for us not to find scum among those names, and we already know (most probably) yamato77 is town among those. I'd be ok to vote Rayn, Sentinel, or geript, even if they vary very much in scumminess for me (I wrote them in order) and get information, but obviously I want FT more. To me both the most likely to flip scum and the biggest yield of information. Why should we dismiss the very real possibility of a scum panic situation that reveals several likely scum for a minor player without many links to anyone? Is he really that much more scum than anyone with day 1 vote that would prove significant for the coming day? Someone who voted LM feels considerably less relevant when we don't know LM's alignment as certainly as Chairman Ray's--that includes LM himself That's where I'm at. I've been unable to focus on the game, so I'm questioning myself, but I'll go with my reads, logic and gut as they've been; they were clear Instead of wanting to lynch FT for information and only for information could you tell us why he is mafia? | ||
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I am going to ignore FirmTofu and Koshi for now on until they do something else than call me scum for reasons that are 100% wrong... Or actually, i could probably lynch FirmTofu. | ||
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On September 26 2013 18:37 marvellosity wrote: The timestamps are significantly different in between those 2 posts you've done jack shit. rayn: it's manufactured and over the top. like every single one of his posts. I thought in Aperture every single one of his posts was manufactured. I don't know if there is a difference or not between his posting in these two games. Anyways it's irrelevant because i'm gonna vote for him either way tomorrow. | ||
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On September 26 2013 18:40 Mocsta wrote: he wasnt getting lynched look what i posted at the same time he claimed i was paying careful attention to the counts.. my downfall was that i expected the same of everyone else i agree dec/ve comments are odd. but if u working off cephiro is scum, then there must be scum on the wagon BEFORE the claim | | \/ guess what mattchew coag oo ceph stutters iamp ceph can be treated in isolation but hey look... its my man stuttetrs lynch this guy with fire Mocsta. Why are people who voted for LoneMeow before the claim more suspicious then people who voted for him after the claim. You yourself said he wasn't gonna get lynched. We don't know Cephiro's alignment for sure. What makes those people suspicious? In my opinion people who voted for LM after his claim are far more suspicious than those who voted for him before. If we look only at the votes. Because, for real, nobody should have voted for him after the claim. | ||
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On September 26 2013 12:26 Pandain wrote: raynpelikoneet Scum I've posted before while he looks scum. Weak analysis of me, no real focusing of people, just agreement. Contrasts with his town play in Golden Sun mafia. Notice only person he proactively pushed is Koshi, who he stopped pushing eventually anyway. Despite vote being so close, left two hours before, doesn't make sense for super-active-mafia loving Rayn. Posts like this are bad. Why Not just bad play, scum play You too. If you can't understand the differences in my play when i am playing a big game or a mini game then there is nothing i can do but to say you are wrong. Read my filter in Aperture and if you still think that there is something to discuss then come back. You are recycling arguments from Koshi & FirmTofu and they are wrong. I am sorry i needed to go to bed when i posted my last time. I thought Cephiro was the best lynch and i wanted marv's opinion because he was pushing the case. In case he would have pushed another case with yamato i wouldn't want to waste my vote as i was not able to be here at the deadline. Why the fuck me agreeingwith my townreads make me scum? Should i have voted for someone like you? I thought you were the best lynch yesterday. | ||
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marv everyone else | ||
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On September 26 2013 20:30 ObviousOne wrote: APPEAL TO EGO CLEARLY SCUM Do you agree with my top 6 choices for scum or have thoughts on them or would you like to join them? I would like to join them. No but seriously, lemme take a look at it. | ||
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geript - I don't think he is scum. Lately he has been trolling as town which is fucking unfortunate because he is really good as town when he wants to be. Useless but i'd say town. Mr. Cheesecake - I have no idea. On D1 i thought he was town, but i am not so sure any more. Didn't do anything i remember on D2. Null. kushm4sta - the fact that he has made some analysis and opened some filters and looked into people's past games makes him town. kush does not do that as scum. Cephiro - Absolutely scum. Lynch with fire. Stutters695 - I have seen 2 scumgames with Stutters. One was Basters where he buddied me and played really well. Another on was Titanic where everything he did was vote for someone or asked "why am i scum Oats?". Looks like Titanic here. I need to check his towngames because if i remember correctly he's usually pretty useless as town aswell. Leaning scum. | ||
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On September 26 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote: Pretty sure they aren't all mafia. Can you talk to me about rayn in a fashion that I'll understand? Do you not buy his "i play differently in large games" thing? You think Mocsta pulled all that shit as mafia? I am interested, do you "buy" it? Have you looked at my play in Aperture where i sheeped Clarity all game because people were either too hard to read or too bad. | ||
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Now, if you are town, look at this from my perspective. Wtf am i supposed to do? Am i supposed to call you town just because? Why? I thought you were scum. Then you upped your play on N1, now you are back to this tunnel shit because of no fucking reason. Are you scum, for real? I could see you doing this as scum. Play purposely like shit just to justify your tunnel on me after that the whole fucking game and you look good for strong townies because you are not afraid to attack me. Stop this fucking bullshit and make a decent case if you think i am scum. Otherwise i will lynch you, because if you do not make a case or stop it you are scum. | ||
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D1 start. Fucking clueless as mafia. Then he gets accused. Then this happens (from GoT scum QT): + Show Spoiler + raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:20 PM ET (US) You can accuse fellow mafians if you have a "good" reason to. We are good enough to defend ourselves. Just do not make an idiot out of yourself by stupid stuff, that gets you policy lynched. For example, if there is anything that contradicts with your mindset in me, ask me questions. Be aggressive towards me. I do not mind, i can defend myself. You need to interact with your scumbuddies aswell, because we will lose member(s) at some point and you look terrible if you do not talk about your scumbuddies at all. Especially now when you are "under attack", even if you make a case on scum, you have no credit. There is no harm, IF YOUR CASE IS BELIEVEABLE from town pov. It does not have to be right, it has to be so that you look town. If you dunno how to do that, attack suspicious townies instead. :D 126 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:15 PM ET (US) Do not afk. That´s the worst thing you can do. I´m gonna push a lynch on a lurker if necessay (FT, Risen looks really bad, nachodude, Sharrant, etc.) Just remember this: Keep track of where your town!mind is. What are your "intentions", who do you think is mafia, what has your game plan been, who does oppose your game plan and "what that might mean". You are ok if you follow these things, whether or not you are right. 125 Koshi 08-08-2013 06:08 PM ET (US) How do I enter the thread now? Or do I keep afk? 124 Koshi 08-08-2013 06:07 PM ET (US) Ok, then I hold it back for when people ask me questions. I can trow Clarity under the bus at the same time because he soft defended OAts twice already and FoS me with a silly reason. 123 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:05 PM ET (US) TLDR; It does not matter who you accuse, but keep your story straight. 122 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:04 PM ET (US) I dunno. Seems like a forced case to me (going MIA is not a scumtell). Keeping house names secret might be, if you can convince other people that is the right thing to do (revealing them), how did you act on th ebeginning regarding that? Did you immediately reveal house names? If you didn´t, why is Oats scum because of that for you? Having no scumreads and living happily ever after in his house might be scummy, it also might be that he genuinely thought everyone is town. How do you "prove" that? Make a case if you think it´s gonna be good enough, but think about what you say. 121 Koshi 08-08-2013 05:58 PM ET (US) Could I make a case around Oats? Or do people see him as town? He is asleep atm so he can't retaliate for a couple of hours. My case would be around the fact that in the first 6 hours he prevented scumhunting by trying to keep house names a secret, while when I tried to create a better atmosphere to scumhunt he shot me down asking silly questions (page 20 pages long when there were only 6 pages) or him blaming me for having no scumreads while he was only sharing townreads based on "friendly and shit". When SnB came in saying that there were some problems in their House, Oats suddenly went MIA. Except that now he does not need anyone to tell that because i even put that in thread for DP on D1. What does Koshi do? This: + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote: If I ever host a game it will have a minimum 10 posts a day rule. Or maybe next game I play in I will start a policy that you need to make 10 posts a day otherwise you get lynched. If you are town and you don't post 10 times you just fail at life and at this game. Always the same people talking and I can't read any of them, except give them a town read... EXCEPT I have such a problem with this post. Like which stupid vigi is going to use his shot on a guy that has almost no hp? 6 Lords should have killed gumshoe and if gumshoe was still alive at the end of the day he should have been checked by a Lord on n2. Or even n1 like iamp did but then it is VERY suspicious that after the 1 hp check on gumshoe, gumshoe dies. The chance that scum spent a part or all their KP on is 0%. The only reason scum would target gum is if they knew he was blue or they knew he had 1 hp and gambled blue. So if there was a vigi he would have shot a target on the list but not the first 2 because his shot could be less effective. I think iamp is scum. Just because of this post and the fact he used the hp check. If iamp is not scum there is scum hiding in his House and I do not see how iamp does not see this. On top of that the whole FTofu lynch felt wrong. Just like FTofu said, there were worse lurkers than him, or atleast equally worse. There was no case on FT except "the wagon of justice is here yabababababa." Then the vote on yamato from iamp was without case as well. I (Koshi) completely would have also voted yamato after a redclaim obviously but I wouldn't have shot down Oats trying to talk about it. Or at least give some sort of argument to Oats why Yamato is scum except for the redcheck. yamato could be scum in iamp his will. While the explanation to why he is scum also has a townread in it. In iamp his last will Vivax is his strongest scumread. While Vivax has been iamps strongest scumread this entire game, iamp has decided during the lynch only Vivax should be spared and FT should be lynched. The scumreason for this is if you get a town Vivax lynched you look extremely scummy, while discrediting Vivax the entire game till somebody else lynches him is way better. Also, I am a townread from iamp. That's all friendly and shit but why do I get a feeling I am getting set up for gettting lynched when it is lylo/mylo. Just like last game... PS: the friendly and shit is a *wink* at Oats who I now consider town if yamato flips scum. If Yamato flips towns this was all for nothing and Oats can be lynched. He makes a conspiracy theory that is so stupid everyone thinks he is clueless town and genuinely believes in that. He sticks with it until iamp dies but the townread stays after that. This is EXACTLY what Koshi is doing this game. Except that he has no case, BECAUSE HE CAN'T MAKE A FUCKING CASE! | ||
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