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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 02:59 GMT
#3097
don't duck off before answering that please
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 03:12 GMT
#3100
think again

On August 13 2013 14:07 DrParnassus wrote:
Night 2



"Lords, I trust you finally have something to show for all your bickering? Our king grows tired of this farce. His Grace has given you ample time to bring forth the traitors. King's Landing has never been a more dangerous place; nobody trusts their neighbor and many have suffered or died due to false accusations. Even now, there is a mob outside our gates demanding blood! Bring forth the traitors so that we might end this!"

The Lords stood in a line facing the King. Nobody spoke. At some unseen signal the lords parted halfway, and behind them knelt yamato77 of House Martell. The King's Hand stared at him and began to speak.

"You are accused of treason. Do you serve your King? Tell us true, where do your loyalties lie?"

yamato77 looked up and opened his mouth, as if he wished to speak. Instead, he lowered his eyes to the floor and was silent.

"Well? Your King demands an answer!"

yamato's head lifted, his gaze locked firmly onto the King. A shadow seemed to cross his face and he struggled to his feet. For a brief moment he seemed to be the tallest person in the room. The court froze, as if everyone expected violence to break out at a single misspoken word.

"I will not give you the satisfaction you seek. I am Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken. Do with me as you will."

yamato77 was beheaded!

+ Show Spoiler [role pm] +
You are Doran Martell, a Mafia Goon of House Martell. You may communicate with your house partners Oberyn, jrkirby, and onegu. You may only use TL forum pms for this. PM your nightly lord election votes to DrParnassus.


+ Show Spoiler [vote count] +
Vote Count


yamato77 (6) Acrofales, Chromatically, iamperfection, Oberyn, Oatsmaster, Risen

yamato77 was lynched!




It is now Night 2. This night and all nights are silent. You may pm members from your house. Lords can no longer pm other lords. Send all lord election votes and night actions to DrParnassus. Lord election uses majority voting (3of4, 2of3, 2of2). If you don't come to a majority then your house will NOT have a lord for the next cycle. Night 2 ends in at 05:00 GMT (+00:00)!

PM me for obs.


see that 2/2?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 03:19 GMT
#3103
Risen had an objection to Rayn iirc.

My assumption was always need a majority for lord voting, otherwise no lord i.e. 1/2 would mean no lord.

I don't think it's odd that Rayn acted on that assumption.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 04:03 GMT
#3113
I really would have liked it if you were lord this cycle Acro.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 04:15 GMT
#3118
On August 15 2013 13:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 13:03 s0Lstice wrote:
I really would have liked it if you were lord this cycle Acro.

Do you not trust Sharrant?


no it's more about the haunting doubts I have with you.

fuck me sideways, but I'm leaning town on you. would have been nice to pick your brain however since iamp got a lot of his townread on you from PMs.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 05:50 GMT
#3126
Acro, tell me what you thought of Rayn's filter in Titanic
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 17:32 GMT
#3280
lunch break

##vote strongandbig

I'm putting my vote here for now.

My general thoughts on the game as it exists right now is that I have too many town reads. I've been saying this in PMs for awhile though and despite numerous run throughs of these town reads I still end up town. Very unsettling. There are probably 4-6 scum in this game, with or without a 3rd party, and I'm having trouble placing them. There are also too many people who evoke just a general blah or ambivalence feeling from me. One of these is s&b. I don't have an especially strong feeling towards him, other than the fact that he has been pretty useless

I could also lynch Vivax today. I revisited his posting, and while it struck me as townie, it is not difficult to look pretty town in short controlled bursts. The difficulty is sustaining it.

On July 09 2013 03:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
I do give a fuck.

I hate the 'this person is scum b/c process of elimination' phase of the game


4 pages of filter.

Your effort is amazing.

Oh yeah right you're busy, so am I every time I play scum.


Mocsta -- you claimed that you wanted to see more from Vivax, and knew he was legit busy. When he finally came back to the thread, his posting to me looked town, yet you drew scum from this, in addition to his earlier posting which you presumably had already processed. You've talked about it some, but can you explain in a little more detail?



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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 17:36 GMT
#3281
actually fuck it

##unvote
##vote Vivax

I feel better about this. I want s&b to have some more time. If he fucks off after the heat is off we can lynch him tomorrow.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 17:38 GMT
#3283
I could also yolo lynch dandel.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 18:00 GMT
#3290
Let's talk about that yamato vivax thing.

Going after yamato in PMs means what exactly. At the end of D1, yamato look pretty clearly bad. The scum team had to recognize this just like the rest of us did. How much credit do we assign Vivax for pushing to make yamato take...1 HP damage? This would be irrelevant just by itself, but even more so if yamato is looking like a lynch tomorrow anyway.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 18:02 GMT
#3291
On August 16 2013 02:47 Sharrant wrote:
Okay, guys, just want to make it clear where I stand. I've been discussing lynching Vivax for some time, and felt like I was chasing my tail as I went back and forth on lynching him, to lynching SnB, to both being town, to both scum, and back around the circle over and over.

##Vote: Vivax

I don't think I need to go too in depth with this, as it seems the majority of lords have come to the same conclusion. He hasn't been loud like I used to expect from him. Nor does he show off the skills he recently has proven he has, in the last two town games we played together he immediately and undeniably showed his townieness in a way that few can. There's none of that here.

I'm just retyping my case on Koshi right now and adding in the new developments about him now. I will post it shortly.


I just want to say that aside from the cop claim you have been entirely unimpactful. I suck at analyzing blue claims, so its neither here nor there for me, so I'm left with the general sentiment that you are just existing.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 18:14 GMT
#3302
On August 16 2013 03:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:00 s0Lstice wrote:
Let's talk about that yamato vivax thing.

Going after yamato in PMs means what exactly. At the end of D1, yamato look pretty clearly bad. The scum team had to recognize this just like the rest of us did. How much credit do we assign Vivax for pushing to make yamato take...1 HP damage? This would be irrelevant just by itself, but even more so if yamato is looking like a lynch tomorrow anyway.


I was arguing back at vivax that yamato was null in my eyes.
Hell, oats was trying to convince me yamato was town during n1!

I was one of the few people that had no clear opinion on yamato, and vivax tried to convince me he's scum. Why?
A yamato lynch was nowhere near a certainty d2 without the redcheck. Scum could have easily tried to direct the lynch elsewhere.
The only reason a scum vivax would do that is if sharrant was scum too and vivax knew the redcheck was going to happen, and I don't buy that.

It's not a perfect explanation, I'm not saying vivax is completely town because of it, but it makes him townier than snb, and as I've said they can't both be scum.


Why couldn't scum do this? I bussed fuba and stutters all game in Basterd Mini because I knew I wasn't putting them in real danger. How damaging is it to yamato for Vivax to make you go from null to scum on him? Not very. It only gets easier to rule it out as a scum on scum interaction if Vivax was here in thread pushing yamato's lynch with force when it was unpopular and seeing it through to the end, and even then you can never be sure

Yamato was basically a good bus. If I was scum I'd have probably bussed the shit out of him towards the end of Day 1.

I just don't see those PMs being conclusive either way.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 18:28 GMT
#3306
On August 16 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:14 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:00 s0Lstice wrote:
Let's talk about that yamato vivax thing.

Going after yamato in PMs means what exactly. At the end of D1, yamato look pretty clearly bad. The scum team had to recognize this just like the rest of us did. How much credit do we assign Vivax for pushing to make yamato take...1 HP damage? This would be irrelevant just by itself, but even more so if yamato is looking like a lynch tomorrow anyway.


I was arguing back at vivax that yamato was null in my eyes.
Hell, oats was trying to convince me yamato was town during n1!

I was one of the few people that had no clear opinion on yamato, and vivax tried to convince me he's scum. Why?
A yamato lynch was nowhere near a certainty d2 without the redcheck. Scum could have easily tried to direct the lynch elsewhere.
The only reason a scum vivax would do that is if sharrant was scum too and vivax knew the redcheck was going to happen, and I don't buy that.

It's not a perfect explanation, I'm not saying vivax is completely town because of it, but it makes him townier than snb, and as I've said they can't both be scum.


Why couldn't scum do this? I bussed fuba and stutters all game in Basterd Mini because I knew I wasn't putting them in real danger. How damaging is it to yamato for Vivax to make you go from null to scum on him? Not very. It only gets easier to rule it out as a scum on scum interaction if Vivax was here in thread pushing yamato's lynch with force when it was unpopular and seeing it through to the end, and even then you can never be sure

Yamato was basically a good bus. If I was scum I'd have probably bussed the shit out of him towards the end of Day 1.

I just don't see those PMs being conclusive either way.


I think there was a small chance of yamato getting lynched pre redcheck.
I think had vivax convinced me there would have been a much much bigger chance.
See no reason to do it as scum, especially since only I would give him towniepoints for it and no one else.

That said, this pm stuff snb pointed out looks pretty bad for vivax, maybe, let's see if he shows up.


Yea I dunno, getting townie points with you seems fine and dandy for scum motivation. There was no guarantee you were gonna have vote power anytime soon right?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#3314
On August 16 2013 03:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
sol might be sk tho


how shmoopy?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 18:54 GMT
#3322
nah just a figure of speech. we've been discussing you in PMs
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 18:56 GMT
#3323
your ears must have been burning though considering the timeliness of your arrival
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 19:14 GMT
#3326
On August 16 2013 04:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
well my right ear is sunburnt, t'is true.

but please do keep deluding yourself that i order my life after what you say about me on a forum.


get some aloe

why is johnny the best lynch in your opinion, or are you waiting on Acro to go over again why he is so town?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#3339
Chrom,

I was trying to think back on what I remember about Risen. Have a look at this filter: click

It's from SSB-64. He moves around a lot and changes his opinions at a breakneck speed. It can often look like he has no conviction behind his original thought because he so quickly moves on to something else. The context was the same for the s&b vote this game. He settled on the s&b vote, and then quickly moved on to the dialogue with him and not wanting to vote him. Kinda makes sense with the way s&b was here and defending himself with vigor while simultaneously pushing his favored lynch. I originally thought you had a good point with the s&b thing, but in light of this, I don't think it's really alignment indicative.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 19:50 GMT
#3345
I'll take 9-13
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 15 2013 19:52 GMT
#3347
If Vivax flips scum you're dead Acro
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