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On August 10 2013 02:53 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, Vivax, you're the perfect one to answer this. You actually hydra'ed with Kush. The question was whether Kush says 'fags' normally. Does he? You would know much better than I.
I can only tell you that Kush likes the word ANAL. I prefer not having to draw conclusions from someone using specific derogative terms. You could let him do a IAT with town-scum categories and have him post the results here, that would be serious shit.
Is there anyone specific you're trying to present to your lord for lynching?
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Is jrkirby really scum?
On August 09 2013 06:11 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 05:46 s0Lstice wrote:
My discussions with Dandel had me leaning town on him. Like I've been telling both Chrom and Dandel though, I really am not comfortable with Dandel as a lord until I am completely sure he is town. As scum, Dandel knows he will be caught. He will therefore have no qualms about using our house abilities (the KP, the one-shot HP check) in a way that is incriminating as he is going to be lynched or vigged anyway. The hypothetical I layed out was that he'd blow our HP check and shoot the towniest dude in the thread. These are things that would probably be traced back to him in the future, but again it's not gonna matter. Just a total waste of our first cycle abilities. At the time, I had to assume that house KP could even be strong enough to kill someone. So thats another strike. A typical scum player is not trying to be obv scum and therefore is unlikely to be so cavalier with these. The risk of scum Dandel trolling his way to the lynch block and me being wrong with my early town read made him unelectable to me for the first cycle.
Ok, you're leaning town on him, but your afraid of electing him because electing him will allow us to know for sure if he's scum? Is anyone else thinking this logic is dumb? Catching a guaranteed scum for giving mafia an extra KP and HP check is totally worth it. And you didn't even think that was likely. So... why not vote for him? + Show Spoiler +I just got caught up on the thread.
"Apathetic" isn't a good word for his (rare) posts. He seems to be more like... Unsure of himself. That can be newb scum, but newb town as well.
Null would fit him better than scummy IMO.
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Does anyone disagree with the Lords splitting the house kp between 2 targets with 3 kp a piece?
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On August 10 2013 03:13 Xatalos wrote:
Is jrkirby really scum?
I'd be opposed to his lynch right now.
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On August 10 2013 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now that the experiment is apparently over, Sharrant, can you finally tell me where have i twisted anyone´s words in this game?
Your conversation with Acrofales. At least at a glance it felt exactly like what happened when we played last. You saying Acrofales was going to use the house health check, seems very much like that. I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check.
Perhaps using "twisting" was the wrong word. I know the problem we had was a lot of misunderstandings. For this to come up in another game doesn't surprise me with anothe rplayer does not surprise me.
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On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:
I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check.
Acro told me that he informed you that he intended to use his hp check and hadn't heard back.
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On August 10 2013 03:15 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:
I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check. Acro told me that he informed you that he intended to use his hp check and hadn't heard back.
In fact, I think you were the one he said that talked him out of it.
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On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now that the experiment is apparently over, Sharrant, can you finally tell me where have i twisted anyone´s words in this game? Your conversation with Acrofales. At least at a glance it felt exactly like what happened when we played last. You saying Acrofales was going to use the house health check, seems very much like that. I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check. Perhaps using "twisting" was the wrong word. I know the problem we had was a lot of misunderstandings. For this to come up in another game doesn't surprise me with anothe rplayer does not surprise me.
If you are serious with the bolded part you have clearly not read the thread.
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lol, os aCrofales has TOLD you Sharrant that he is intending to use the HP check?!?!?!
wtf are you doing man?
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On August 10 2013 03:16 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:15 Oberyn wrote:On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:
I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check. Acro told me that he informed you that he intended to use his hp check and hadn't heard back. In fact, I think you were the one he said that talked him out of it.
Ah, gotcha. See, to me he just asked my opinions about it. I didn't realize he had been considering it before. Yes, that makes sense then.
Apologies, Rayne.
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On August 10 2013 03:18 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:16 Oberyn wrote:On August 10 2013 03:15 Oberyn wrote:On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:
I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check. Acro told me that he informed you that he intended to use his hp check and hadn't heard back. In fact, I think you were the one he said that talked him out of it. Ah, gotcha. See, to me he just asked my opinions about it. I didn't realize he had been considering it before. Yes, that makes sense then. Apologies, Rayne.
wait im confused
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Okay, i gotta go for couple of hours. I´ll be back.
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On August 09 2013 22:47 Oberyn wrote:
jrkirby hasn't set off any red flags yet in PMs, though similar to Acro, I question how they come to the both town conclusion so easily. In this case, I'd be more suspicious of Acro, rather than kirby due to experience. Kirby is going to find himself shot if he's not posting in the thread more though.
On August 10 2013 03:14 Oberyn wrote:I'd be opposed to his lynch right now.
He did not post more.
You don't want to shoot him.
I know of him that he's a newbie and as such he might not know how to play most efficiently, and what the game's "meta" is, but I don't really like how you argue about his alignment.
When you don't know how they reach the conclusion, you simply base it on their experience if it's scummy or not.
Then you only try to judge kirby on the amount of his posts, but also say "he's going to find himself shot". You make it sound as if you wouldn't want to be the guy pulling the trigger but could understand if someone did.
He didn't post more, but now you openly oppose it.
If you got any extended read from your PMs with him it would be the time to share it, and an opinion from you on his in-thread post would help as well.
If you had to shoot someone right now, who would it be?
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On August 10 2013 03:19 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:18 Sharrant wrote:On August 10 2013 03:16 Oberyn wrote:On August 10 2013 03:15 Oberyn wrote:On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:
I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check. Acro told me that he informed you that he intended to use his hp check and hadn't heard back. In fact, I think you were the one he said that talked him out of it. Ah, gotcha. See, to me he just asked my opinions about it. I didn't realize he had been considering it before. Yes, that makes sense then. Apologies, Rayne. wait im confused
Okay, I looked back through the PM's. I was wrong, he did state he originally wanted to use it on a house to check the HP values. I forgot about that because of how quickly he agreed that it was a bad idea. I just forgot, plain as that.
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Yamato, are you around somewhere?
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On August 10 2013 03:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:47 Oberyn wrote:
jrkirby hasn't set off any red flags yet in PMs, though similar to Acro, I question how they come to the both town conclusion so easily. In this case, I'd be more suspicious of Acro, rather than kirby due to experience. Kirby is going to find himself shot if he's not posting in the thread more though. Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:14 Oberyn wrote:On August 10 2013 03:13 Xatalos wrote:
Is jrkirby really scum? I'd be opposed to his lynch right now. He did not post more. You don't want to shoot him. I know of him that he's a newbie and as such he might not know how to play most efficiently, and what the game's "meta" is, but I don't really like how you argue about his alignment. When you don't know how they reach the conclusion, you simply base it on their experience if it's scummy or not. Then you only try to judge kirby on the amount of his posts, but also say "he's going to find himself shot". You make it sound as if you wouldn't want to be the guy pulling the trigger but could understand if someone did. He didn't post more, but now you openly oppose it. If you got any extended read from your PMs with him it would be the time to share it, and an opinion from you on his in-thread post would help as well. If you had to shoot someone right now, who would it be?
jrkirby has recently informed me that he has internet problems. I don't have such an anti-town read that I'd want to lynch him over everyone else.
If I had to shoot, it would probably be yamato. With a lynch between Acro/sol.
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alright im out for a while
ill be on tonight and will try to stay up late for lynch
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On a side note, I mentioned to Acro that I was going to make a case against yamato and was wondering if he would be willing to support me. After being afk in PMs for the first 48 hours, yamato suddenly opens up and is interested in talking. He also feels necessary to call me town and post in the thread explaining his inactivity. I don't want to make a connection read without either player flipped, but it is something to consider later on.
Oberyn, can you tell me more about this yammo stuff?
What's his explanation of inactivity we don't see in the thread?
What do you think makes yammo scum exactly?
Cause you wanna shoot him but I see no case, which you announced you would make.
I'm mainly curious about it cause both yammo and kirby seem to have rl reasons for their inactivity and you present jkirby's reasons and buy them but keep the yammo matter rather under the rug.
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On August 10 2013 03:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +
On a side note, I mentioned to Acro that I was going to make a case against yamato and was wondering if he would be willing to support me. After being afk in PMs for the first 48 hours, yamato suddenly opens up and is interested in talking. He also feels necessary to call me town and post in the thread explaining his inactivity. I don't want to make a connection read without either player flipped, but it is something to consider later on.
What's his explanation of inactivity we don't see in the thread?
He just said I haven't had time and then last night he said he was watching dota, but would be around all night.
On August 10 2013 03:39 Vivax wrote:
I'm mainly curious about it cause both yammo and kirby seem to have rl reasons for their inactivity and you present jkirby's reasons and buy them but keep the yammo matter rather under the rug.
kirby seems to have a legitimate excuse, while yamato does not.
kirby was also willing to discuss things in pms on n0 while yamato was not.
Essentially yamato made no effort to try to determine my alignment on n0. He asked once for us to vote for him (I'm pretty sure he only asked 2/3 of us) and then randomly decided to vote for me.
I asked him several questions and he said the Lord vote is the only thing that matters. He pushed off my questions until later, yet never attempted to discuss the Lord voting in much detail.
I asked him about the DI/koshi/sol situation and he wanted to wait and see, but he disagreed with my vote on sol so early. He has only given me one potential scum read, which is S&B, yet he hasn't mentioned him in the thread.
He has never mentioned oats to me in pms or attempted to convince me to vote for him.
He has only one talking point and that came early, early on in the game. I informed him that I was upset with his inactivity, he promised to return to the thread, and he never did.
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