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things about chrom seen in thread: 0
things seen in PMs: A single little meaningless question
dat convincing.
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On August 10 2013 02:17 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?
seeing as you say you have a townread on sol. I tried, but you ignored my PM. So please. Going to search for more fake reasons to incriminate me? no i told you to take everything to the thread while you can post in it. same thing i told sol.
I asked from some guidelines and your opinion on Chrom. Please oh share them with me in this thread because using PMs don't add in your filter.........
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On August 10 2013 02:15 Oberyn wrote:
Someone asked me what I think of clarity and I don't think I ever responded. I didn't really find anything overly scummy with PM interaction on n0. His tunnel of myself was annoying, but I didn't get an anti-town vibe at any point.
Does anyone recall who posted the list of house members?
johnny
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On August 10 2013 02:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:17 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?
seeing as you say you have a townread on sol. I tried, but you ignored my PM. So please. Going to search for more fake reasons to incriminate me? no i told you to take everything to the thread while you can post in it. same thing i told sol. I asked from some guidelines and your opinion on Chrom. Please oh share them with me in this thread because using PMs don't add in your filter.........
its not because of the filter, retard, it's because I'm sick and tired of you and sol acting like you do more in PMs, which is false.
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On August 10 2013 02:19 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:18 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 02:17 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?
seeing as you say you have a townread on sol. I tried, but you ignored my PM. So please. Going to search for more fake reasons to incriminate me? no i told you to take everything to the thread while you can post in it. same thing i told sol. I asked from some guidelines and your opinion on Chrom. Please oh share them with me in this thread because using PMs don't add in your filter......... its not because of the filter, retard, it's because I'm sick and tired of you and sol acting like you do more in PMs, which is false.
This is what I had to fucking work with on n0. You ask him a question, he says do "x", I do "x" he calls you a retard. Fucking bullshit.
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Because the thing I tell you to do is "play the game" and you're acting like you're doing me a favor.
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And this coming from a guy that took a civil conversation and suddenly decided to fill it choke-full with ad-hom attacks and veiled insults.
The nerve of kids these days.
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On August 10 2013 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:07 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:48 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:35 s0Lstice wrote:
go ahead and tell me what you think of johnnywup claiming a town name to Acro in PMs without prompting while you're at it Rayn. What do you mean by town name? Also how am i wrong on you? That´s exactly what i read from your post. From what acro says, he claimed his role name because he thought it would look townie I.e. he has a town name. Why does he do that as scum? Or better, is it likely he does that as scum? In regards to your paragraph on me, I never said dandel would do good things with the lordship as town. He was talking about shooting kush with our kp, and I argued that it should be used on a scumread if possible. I said I would do better. I have also said I am thinking dandel is town in the thread during this clusterfuck. I said it in pms too, my other house members will verify. It´s not alignment indicative as the role names are not alignment indicative. What if he is mafia and some role name that´s "town" in the lore and decided to claim it to look town? It´s all WIFOM and there is nothing alignment indicative in his claim. Or if there is, feel free to tell me why that claim could possibly not come from mafia. Fair enough. I was wrong in the "good things" part. I assumed you meant that when you said you would elect Dandel when you are 100% sure he is town. Why would you then elect someone who STILL does not do good things over yourself? I know you have said you think Dandel is town, are you 100% sure he is? Because from what i read from your post you would be if he was the lord now. Yes role names are not alignment indicative. I wasn't saying they were. The point is johnny thought they were, otherwise why claim it at all? As scum, claim role name to appear town. As town, claim role name to appear town. Now which of these is more likely with the way it went down. 'Sup veteran Lord candidate, I'm X.' Does he do this as scum? Why is it impossible he would not do that as scum? Iam saying he could do that regardless of his alignment. If you are going to defend him by your argument you need to tell me why it´s impossible he would not do that as mafia. I just told you why he would do that as mafia.
Possible/impossible is the wrong dichotomy. You should be interested in likely/unlikely. Is it possible johnny does it as scum? Yea I guess. Likely? I say no
Tell me why he claims like that so early. It's really ballsy, careless, and got him in some pretty hot water from what it sounds like. Tell me why this is more likely than him just being derpy and thinking 'oh this guy was a good guy, i'll tell my house and they'll think I'm a good guy because I totes am.'
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Rayn, can you also tell me how your PM's with Chrom are going?
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On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?
seeing as you say you have a townread on sol.
When you made this you completely forgot that I asked you about chrom didn't you?
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I think town should strongly try to influence the Lord elections for day two. I've bolded my preferred Lords. Please post if you disagree with my assessment.
House Tyrell:
Kushm4sta
johnnywup
Sharrant
Acrofales
Is it terrible that I'm picking the guy with one post? kush is a martyr so I wouldn't consider him. johnny is suspicious to several players, although I haven't spent much time on him yet and I have a scum read on Acro. I wish we had one of Dandel's house nukes.
House Greyjoy
raynpelikoneet
FirmTofu
Nachomamma8
Risen
I'm content with rayn staying as Lord based on activity.
House Stark
strongandbig
Clarity_nl
Oatsmaster
Vivax
This was a tough choice since most of these individuals are townish null. I'd like to see s&b's play today before making a final decision on this one.
House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe
Xatalos appears more town to me than iamp thus far. I don't like iamp's preferred house kp target and he hasn't done enough in the thread.
House Baratheon
Chromatically
Koshi
S0lstice
Dandel Ion
I would be pretty opposed to any of the other three at this point. Chrom has been pretty active in PMs.
House Martell
Oberyn
jrkirby
yamato77
Onegu
I feel I've been the most active among my house and I know my own alignment.
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On August 10 2013 02:24 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 02:07 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:48 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:35 s0Lstice wrote:
go ahead and tell me what you think of johnnywup claiming a town name to Acro in PMs without prompting while you're at it Rayn. What do you mean by town name? Also how am i wrong on you? That´s exactly what i read from your post. From what acro says, he claimed his role name because he thought it would look townie I.e. he has a town name. Why does he do that as scum? Or better, is it likely he does that as scum? In regards to your paragraph on me, I never said dandel would do good things with the lordship as town. He was talking about shooting kush with our kp, and I argued that it should be used on a scumread if possible. I said I would do better. I have also said I am thinking dandel is town in the thread during this clusterfuck. I said it in pms too, my other house members will verify. It´s not alignment indicative as the role names are not alignment indicative. What if he is mafia and some role name that´s "town" in the lore and decided to claim it to look town? It´s all WIFOM and there is nothing alignment indicative in his claim. Or if there is, feel free to tell me why that claim could possibly not come from mafia. Fair enough. I was wrong in the "good things" part. I assumed you meant that when you said you would elect Dandel when you are 100% sure he is town. Why would you then elect someone who STILL does not do good things over yourself? I know you have said you think Dandel is town, are you 100% sure he is? Because from what i read from your post you would be if he was the lord now. Yes role names are not alignment indicative. I wasn't saying they were. The point is johnny thought they were, otherwise why claim it at all? As scum, claim role name to appear town. As town, claim role name to appear town. Now which of these is more likely with the way it went down. 'Sup veteran Lord candidate, I'm X.' Does he do this as scum? Why is it impossible he would not do that as scum? Iam saying he could do that regardless of his alignment. If you are going to defend him by your argument you need to tell me why it´s impossible he would not do that as mafia. I just told you why he would do that as mafia. Possible/impossible is the wrong dichotomy. You should be interested in likely/unlikely. Is it possible johnny does it as scum? Yea I guess. Likely? I say no Tell me why he claims like that so early. It's really ballsy, careless, and got him in some pretty hot water from what it sounds like. Tell me why this is more likely than him just being derpy and thinking 'oh this guy was a good guy, i'll tell my house and they'll think I'm a good guy because I totes am.'
rofl, i have never said i think johnnywup is scummy because of his claim. Why are you trying to imply so? Or what do you mean with "got him in some pretty hot water from what it sounds like"??
If you are familiar with the lore, got a mafia role whose name was someone good in the show, why the fuck would you not claim your role name? There is no harm.
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On August 10 2013 02:27 s0Lstice wrote:
Rayn, can you also tell me how your PM's with Chrom are going?
I have not PM´d with Chrom since yesterday. We talked about DI/Koshi stuff. Nothing much more.
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On August 10 2013 02:27 Oberyn wrote:
I think town should strongly try to influence the Lord elections for day two. I've bolded my preferred Lords. Please post if you disagree with my assessment.
House Tyrell:
Kushm4sta
johnnywup
Sharrant
Acrofales
Is it terrible that I'm picking the guy with one post? kush is a martyr so I wouldn't consider him. johnny is suspicious to several players, although I haven't spent much time on him yet and I have a scum read on Acro. I wish we had one of Dandel's house nukes.
House Greyjoy
raynpelikoneet
FirmTofu
Nachomamma8
Risen
I'm content with rayn staying as Lord based on activity.
House Stark
strongandbig
Clarity_nl
Oatsmaster
Vivax
This was a tough choice since most of these individuals are townish null. I'd like to see s&b's play today before making a final decision on this one.
House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe
Xatalos appears more town to me than iamp thus far. I don't like iamp's preferred house kp target and he hasn't done enough in the thread.
House Baratheon
Chromatically
Koshi
S0lstice
Dandel Ion
I would be pretty opposed to any of the other three at this point. Chrom has been pretty active in PMs.
House Martell
Oberyn
jrkirby
yamato77
Onegu
I feel I've been the most active among my house and I know my own alignment.
Talk to me about your scum read on Acrofales. I'm interested in this and it seems like a much more fruitful discussion than what has been going on for the last few pages.
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On August 10 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:24 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 02:07 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:48 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:35 s0Lstice wrote:
go ahead and tell me what you think of johnnywup claiming a town name to Acro in PMs without prompting while you're at it Rayn. What do you mean by town name? Also how am i wrong on you? That´s exactly what i read from your post. From what acro says, he claimed his role name because he thought it would look townie I.e. he has a town name. Why does he do that as scum? Or better, is it likely he does that as scum? In regards to your paragraph on me, I never said dandel would do good things with the lordship as town. He was talking about shooting kush with our kp, and I argued that it should be used on a scumread if possible. I said I would do better. I have also said I am thinking dandel is town in the thread during this clusterfuck. I said it in pms too, my other house members will verify. It´s not alignment indicative as the role names are not alignment indicative. What if he is mafia and some role name that´s "town" in the lore and decided to claim it to look town? It´s all WIFOM and there is nothing alignment indicative in his claim. Or if there is, feel free to tell me why that claim could possibly not come from mafia. Fair enough. I was wrong in the "good things" part. I assumed you meant that when you said you would elect Dandel when you are 100% sure he is town. Why would you then elect someone who STILL does not do good things over yourself? I know you have said you think Dandel is town, are you 100% sure he is? Because from what i read from your post you would be if he was the lord now. Yes role names are not alignment indicative. I wasn't saying they were. The point is johnny thought they were, otherwise why claim it at all? As scum, claim role name to appear town. As town, claim role name to appear town. Now which of these is more likely with the way it went down. 'Sup veteran Lord candidate, I'm X.' Does he do this as scum? Why is it impossible he would not do that as scum? Iam saying he could do that regardless of his alignment. If you are going to defend him by your argument you need to tell me why it´s impossible he would not do that as mafia. I just told you why he would do that as mafia. Possible/impossible is the wrong dichotomy. You should be interested in likely/unlikely. Is it possible johnny does it as scum? Yea I guess. Likely? I say no Tell me why he claims like that so early. It's really ballsy, careless, and got him in some pretty hot water from what it sounds like. Tell me why this is more likely than him just being derpy and thinking 'oh this guy was a good guy, i'll tell my house and they'll think I'm a good guy because I totes am.' rofl, i have never said i think johnnywup is scummy because of his claim. Why are you trying to imply so? Or what do you mean with "got him in some pretty hot water from what it sounds like"?? If you are familiar with the lore, got a mafia role whose name was someone good in the show, why the fuck would you not claim your role name? There is no harm.
How is it not clear to you that I am trying to show you why I think johnny is town and your read is wrong?
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for house i would want
oberyn, dandel, me, Clarity or oats, rayn, and from shit house i would take acro again
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I am seriously underwhelmed by Sharrant's entrance.
The quantity seems fine, the quality sucks. All that talk to give an almost psychoanalytic townread on kush? Cool, now we know he calls people fags, what the fuck does that even have to do with anything?
I'm actually interested into knowing Sharrant's read on Acrofales rather than having his question answered before he does that cause it rather looks like he's trying to steer discussion into a direction without giving his own opinion first. Not to mention that Oberyn already talked about Acrofales. Sharrant could simply look it up.
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Why are you posting that more than 48 hours until we have to vote Oberyn?
Seems like useless fluff to me.
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On August 10 2013 02:09 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 10 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:23 Xatalos wrote:On August 09 2013 23:37 s0Lstice wrote:On August 09 2013 23:23 Xatalos wrote:
Just a notice that I'll be relying on my phone (and its battery) for about 2 days so my activity will drop a bit during this time.
s0Lstice, would you act like you did during N0 again in retrospect? Who do you think should be Lord at N1 in your House? If there is one takeaway from my explanation that you should be getting, it's that I think I'm in the right here. Yes, I would do the same thing again despite this retarded flack I'm getting. Wait and see who I vote N1. This information will be made known to you later. For now, know that I have a pretty good idea of who I'm voting. I can't understand why you would refuse to vote your townread and choose someone null/AFK over him. If DI was your townread, that means he almost completely certainly also was town, because he's a blatant scum as scum. There's just no sense in choosing somewhat likely scum over almost impossible scum as Lord. How can you disagree? What do you think of Dandel Ion now? What about Chromatically? Or Koshi? Dandel is definitely town. Chromatically will depend on how his reads adjust as the game goes on. As I said earlier, I really didn't like how he clung to our whole argument seemingly without adopting any new information, especially when it came at the expense of doing anything else in thread as far as I can tell. He's asked me some good questions though that give me an impression he is trying to figure things out. I want to see which of those gives way. Koshi still looks scummy to me. I just got done talking him out of his big dead red scum read in PMs (Oats) with like 2 lines of text. There's times like this where he really just lacks conviction that makes me think his reads are a pretext. It's obvious you can't understand my reasons for doing what I did. I'm not going to explain them again. It makes me nervous about you when you ask me the same question over and over expecting a different answer. What matters is if you think that I think that it was the best course for our house and town. If you think that, then whether it was right or wrong in your eyes is irrelevant. Also, I'm asking you this again, tell me why I called Dandel town in my pursuit of the lordship, in essence undercutting my own run, if this was some big scum plot by me to discredit him and take the role for myself. To the lords, how has Chrom been in PMs? I take it you are familiar with DI's meta. That means his alignment would (or at least should) be obvious to you pretty soon. That's why you certainly can't say that he's scummy as either alignment. Having him as a town read is pretty much forced on you even as scum. Your town read on him doesn't really say much about you. The problem is that despite your town read, you refused to vote for him for very weak reasons. I have a very hard time seeing how you'd do this as town. I have had moments where I have considered you being town, but I always come back to your N0 actions. It points too strongly to scum to disregard it as simply bad play. I like your "sidenote" about Koshi though. That seems like something town would say rather than scum. This is correct, but there can still be a period of uncertainty. Can you not see how I could not be entirely sure when there are only 24 hours to figure it out, and no thread posting to go off of?
Well, I was confident in him being town after his first post in the thread. I don't really buy you having a "period of uncertainty" for 24 hours while actively discussing with him throughout that time. I just don't see it. And even if there was some small doubt (unlikely), it still isn't town-motivated to prefer a null read over a good town read - just because you believed DI would care less about claiming scum by using his KP? It's just too weak of a town reasoning. It makes more sense for scum to oppose DI's election in that situation.
With that said, you are here, posting actively. Your D1 posting hasn't really even been scummy IMO. Koshi or grackaroni or even Acro might be a better choice atm.
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koshi too dick to be scum. MY FINAL READ ON KOSHI.
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