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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9696 Posts
August 08 2013 19:05 GMT
#841
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.



This makes zero sense why not do that in scum qt if both scum, or even bring it up to SnB why not keep it to themselves?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 19:06 GMT
#842
This page should be about the meaning of life, but it seems to be just stupidity after stupidity. DI is not scum this game, that's 99,99% certain (unless he with great effort is changing his whole meta somehow..... likely? not). Risen's theories are getting out of hand. Funnily enough, I remember Risen playing anti-town (as town) in our previous GOT game. Is this a repeat of that or are you just scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 08 2013 19:07 GMT
#843
On August 09 2013 04:05 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.



This makes zero sense why not do that in scum qt if both scum, or even bring it up to SnB why not keep it to themselves?


Alrighty last post before da beech. I think the PM chain was a scumslip on their part. I think they were supposed to keep it to themselves. I don't think the interaction between Clarity and Oats was supposed to come to light which is why Clarity ended up lying in the PM chain then having to backtrack on it. Clarity probably told Oats the role name, that got revealed because Oats goofed or something, then they had to concoct a story to fit.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
August 08 2013 19:07 GMT
#844
On August 09 2013 03:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:54 Acrofales wrote:
On August 09 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so im REDACTED in SnB's conversation with clarity.

So events happened like this.

I was talking to clarity, and he told me SnB's rolename out of NOWHERE. Ok. So I asked him for his rolename. And he declined giving reasons like, 'scum can bluesnipe rolenames'. Which sounds like crap to me. But whatever.
Eventually, I decided to fakeclaim 1 shot rolename alignment check because he wouldnt tell me his rolename. After I said that, he gave it up willingly. I then came back and pm'ed him that the result was that its a fake role name. Fakeclaim. Which means he is scum. He then said something along the lines of 'ok dude' And nothing else. So that makes me think he is town cause he doesnt have an overt reaction. I dunno. Thoughts guys?

Wait what? YOU are Ser Redacted? And when asked if something interested happened in the confines of your house (Winterfell, apparently), you decided to keep this rather controversial situation to the thread, saying that everything was groovy?

Explain yourself. Also, whatever gambit that was, it is atrocious. It doesn't sound indicative of Clarity's allegiance at all. It sounds like he gave you his real name and you derped it up, by claiming some nonsense name magic. I don't understand at all how you deduce that he is not a Blackfyre infiltrant from that, unless you were already privy to that information and were just dicking around.

While I often find it hard to uncover your motivations for doing things, this seems like a particularly stupid gaff. At first my grievances were with your lord, but it's possible that your entire house is Blackfyre scum?


Yes because obviously with that exchange between me and oats, the possibility that we're both scum somehow still remains?
But yeah, whether I am town or scum I'd have reacted the same way, most likely.
That said, do you think Oats as scum pushes me really hard for my rolename (he underemphasized this, it was like 5 pms each of him asking me rolename and me asking "why?") and then when I refuse to give it he makes up a role like that?

Seems a bit farfetched for scum just to "dick around"


Where do I say you're both Blackfyre pretenders? The exchange between you and Oats seems like intentional bad play by Oats, and his subsequent behaviour in this public hall has been to intentionally obscure information that would have been far more relevant at the time than his derpfest bickering with Yamato. Why would a loyal citizen intentionally derail the discussion, rather than presenting an interesting topic for discussion?

I exaggerated with the "whole house" bit, but I have some serious suspicions of Oatsmaster and Strongandbig.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 08 2013 19:10 GMT
#845
Risen too crazy to be mafia
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 19:10 GMT
#846
On August 09 2013 04:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:03 Risen wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:00 Xatalos wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?


What the heck? If you think that's extremely indicative of Mafia play, you should take a look at DI's earlier games. He's active and spammy as town, inactive and useless as scum. Which do you think fits him here?

I preferred myself, but gumshoe preferred iamperfection and grackaroni also agreed with iamperfection being our Lord. I wasn't opposed to iamperfection either, just preferred myself (naturally I know I can trust myself 100%).


I think the scumteam has coached him to post this way so he appears to be playing to a town meta.


So you agree that he appears like his town meta. But you seem really confident he's scum?
I don't even....


ROFL indeed :D What?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
August 08 2013 19:10 GMT
#847
On August 09 2013 04:05 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.



This makes zero sense why not do that in scum qt if both scum, or even bring it up to SnB why not keep it to themselves?

Even Blackfyre pretenders are going to have to keep up appearances. I wouldn't put too much stock in what medium was used for what missives. In this case, I don't think Oats and Clarity are both Blackfyre rebels, because of the nature of the messages, but in general, I would beware of sweeping statements like this. There may very well be Blackfyre sympathizers who send ravens rather than discussing stuff in their secret meetings.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 08 2013 19:10 GMT
#848
On August 09 2013 04:07 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:05 Onegu wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.



This makes zero sense why not do that in scum qt if both scum, or even bring it up to SnB why not keep it to themselves?


Alrighty last post before da beech. I think the PM chain was a scumslip on their part. I think they were supposed to keep it to themselves. I don't think the interaction between Clarity and Oats was supposed to come to light which is why Clarity ended up lying in the PM chain then having to backtrack on it. Clarity probably told Oats the role name, that got revealed because Oats goofed or something, then they had to concoct a story to fit.


Way to take the simplest explanation.

So I as scum told oats as scum (in a pm, instead of in the qt) that snb shared his rolename.
Then, oats, STILL AS SCUM, sent a pm to snb and ACCIDENTALLY told snb that I told him his rolename.

What in the flying fuck
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2013 19:13 GMT
#849
Acrofales do you think Grackaroni is mafia?
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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 08 2013 19:13 GMT
#850
On August 09 2013 04:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:07 Risen wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:05 Onegu wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.



This makes zero sense why not do that in scum qt if both scum, or even bring it up to SnB why not keep it to themselves?


Alrighty last post before da beech. I think the PM chain was a scumslip on their part. I think they were supposed to keep it to themselves. I don't think the interaction between Clarity and Oats was supposed to come to light which is why Clarity ended up lying in the PM chain then having to backtrack on it. Clarity probably told Oats the role name, that got revealed because Oats goofed or something, then they had to concoct a story to fit.


Way to take the simplest explanation.

So I as scum told oats as scum (in a pm, instead of in the qt) that snb shared his rolename.
Then, oats, STILL AS SCUM, sent a pm to snb and ACCIDENTALLY told snb that I told him his rolename.

What in the flying fuck

You think this makes him scum?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 08 2013 19:13 GMT
#851
On August 09 2013 00:31 Chromatically wrote:
Koshi, why did you propose yourself instead of voting Solstice?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 19:13 GMT
#852
Risen's posts are just so wrong that it's hard to comprehend. How are both Clarity and Oats Mafia together? It doesn't make sense. How is DI scum? It makes even less sense. How am I scum? It makes barely more sense than DI being scum. Just look at my posting habits. It should be clear already.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 08 2013 19:15 GMT
#853
On August 09 2013 04:13 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:07 Risen wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:05 Onegu wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.



This makes zero sense why not do that in scum qt if both scum, or even bring it up to SnB why not keep it to themselves?


Alrighty last post before da beech. I think the PM chain was a scumslip on their part. I think they were supposed to keep it to themselves. I don't think the interaction between Clarity and Oats was supposed to come to light which is why Clarity ended up lying in the PM chain then having to backtrack on it. Clarity probably told Oats the role name, that got revealed because Oats goofed or something, then they had to concoct a story to fit.


Way to take the simplest explanation.

So I as scum told oats as scum (in a pm, instead of in the qt) that snb shared his rolename.
Then, oats, STILL AS SCUM, sent a pm to snb and ACCIDENTALLY told snb that I told him his rolename.

What in the flying fuck

You think this makes him scum?


I have no fucking clue. But I hate the argument "too dumb to be scum"
He's really out there though, not a good lynch day1

Although Risen. The way you're currently playing (you currently have FIVE scumreads, FOUR of which are apparantly strong) is disruptive. Tone it down and take a bit more time to come to conclusions
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 08 2013 19:16 GMT
#854
Phone poast: How about you just defend yourselves against my points, and then point out who you think is scum and why instead of posting more useless filler like wat, say wat, and dis be cray! Don't listen to him!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 19:16 GMT
#855
On August 09 2013 04:13 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:07 Risen wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:05 Onegu wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.



This makes zero sense why not do that in scum qt if both scum, or even bring it up to SnB why not keep it to themselves?


Alrighty last post before da beech. I think the PM chain was a scumslip on their part. I think they were supposed to keep it to themselves. I don't think the interaction between Clarity and Oats was supposed to come to light which is why Clarity ended up lying in the PM chain then having to backtrack on it. Clarity probably told Oats the role name, that got revealed because Oats goofed or something, then they had to concoct a story to fit.


Way to take the simplest explanation.

So I as scum told oats as scum (in a pm, instead of in the qt) that snb shared his rolename.
Then, oats, STILL AS SCUM, sent a pm to snb and ACCIDENTALLY told snb that I told him his rolename.

What in the flying fuck

You think this makes him scum?


This doesn't seem like a scum entrance to the thread (exposing himself with negative attention), but I can't say he's done anything to make him town either. Null would be a good place for him for now IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 19:18 GMT
#856
really though, just ignore risen.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 19:19 GMT
#857
On August 09 2013 04:16 Risen wrote:
Phone poast: How about you just defend yourselves against my points, and then point out who you think is scum and why instead of posting more useless filler like wat, say wat, and dis be cray! Don't listen to him!


Some of your points are just non-points and I answered the main points already. In addition I'll mention that Oats may have been on a "rampage" as well, but not comparably to yamato. yamato clearly was the main disruptor in the thread.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 08 2013 19:22 GMT
#858
Hey guys, I slept in today. ^_^

Catching up now. Y U KEEP POST???
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
August 08 2013 19:22 GMT
#859
On August 09 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Acrofales do you think Grackaroni is mafia?

All I know about Grackaroni is what you have told me, which is not conclusive at all. How am I to form an opinion without more information about your internal bickerings over there on those godforsaken isles?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2013 19:24 GMT
#860
On August 09 2013 04:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Acrofales do you think Grackaroni is mafia?

All I know about Grackaroni is what you have told me, which is not conclusive at all. How am I to form an opinion without more information about your internal bickerings over there on those godforsaken isles?

What have i exactly told you about Grack?
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