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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18489 Posts
August 08 2013 18:45 GMT
#821
On August 09 2013 02:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 09 2013 02:28 Onegu wrote:
I dont see any reason for scum to pass that info on to a town member through pm other than to try to friend that person, and that is just bad. Clarity is most likely town.

THERE IS NO INFO IN CLAIMING YOUR ROLE NAME! Or is there? Do role names imply alignment?



There is no way of knowing SnB did it to become lord though. And there could be eole names that are alignment indicative or not we cant know so passing that info on does nothing for scum.

Can we lynch Joffrey? I really want to lynch Joffrey.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:46 GMT
#822
On August 09 2013 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
1) I bring up sol as scum
2) That somehow means I'm defending sol
3) apparantly sol is town even tho he's never heard a word from sol himself (not in the thread at least)
4) CONNECTION CASES

Risen, brother, you are not town are you?
Good I didn't think so

very try hard for scum no?

Its just was full of stupid

If he was trying at all, he wouldn't read me incorrectly.

Not like it's hard.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 18:47 GMT
#823
Ugh, my head hurts. For example, what's the point in stating my stance and then asking DI about the post? I hadn't heard DI's side of the story yet, after all. It would have been extremely stupid to declare him as scum without seeing anything from him yet... Overall most of your points are senseless. One good point is me asking somewhat filler questions. A bit suboptimal play at times, maybe, but I have been offline for some periods of time and wanted to clear up some things in my head.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 08 2013 18:53 GMT
#824
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18489 Posts
August 08 2013 18:54 GMT
#825
On August 09 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so im REDACTED in SnB's conversation with clarity.

So events happened like this.

I was talking to clarity, and he told me SnB's rolename out of NOWHERE. Ok. So I asked him for his rolename. And he declined giving reasons like, 'scum can bluesnipe rolenames'. Which sounds like crap to me. But whatever.
Eventually, I decided to fakeclaim 1 shot rolename alignment check because he wouldnt tell me his rolename. After I said that, he gave it up willingly. I then came back and pm'ed him that the result was that its a fake role name. Fakeclaim. Which means he is scum. He then said something along the lines of 'ok dude' And nothing else. So that makes me think he is town cause he doesnt have an overt reaction. I dunno. Thoughts guys?

Wait what? YOU are Ser Redacted? And when asked if something interested happened in the confines of your house (Winterfell, apparently), you decided to keep this rather controversial situation to the thread, saying that everything was groovy?

Explain yourself. Also, whatever gambit that was, it is atrocious. It doesn't sound indicative of Clarity's allegiance at all. It sounds like he gave you his real name and you derped it up, by claiming some nonsense name magic. I don't understand at all how you deduce that he is not a Blackfyre infiltrant from that, unless you were already privy to that information and were just dicking around.

While I often find it hard to uncover your motivations for doing things, this seems like a particularly stupid gaff. At first my grievances were with your lord, but it's possible that your entire house is Blackfyre scum?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 18:57 GMT
#826
On August 09 2013 03:43 Chromatically wrote:
Xatalos, what do you think of Grack now? He claimed you were tunneling him on N0.


I didn't like his early posts which were very passive, wishy-washy and went with the flow of our PM circle. He also expressed zero interest in becoming a Lord and didn't seem very interested in who we should choose as Lord. I tried pressuring him for quite a bit, but I didn't see any reason to move him from null to scum. Definitely the most lynchworthy player in our House, but not that lynchworthy compared to several players outside our House (s0Lstice, Koshi at least).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#827
On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?

not at all, I haven't even called you scum yet.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#828
feel free to check any one of my town games and any one of my scum games before talking nonsense, though.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#829
On August 09 2013 03:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so im REDACTED in SnB's conversation with clarity.

So events happened like this.

I was talking to clarity, and he told me SnB's rolename out of NOWHERE. Ok. So I asked him for his rolename. And he declined giving reasons like, 'scum can bluesnipe rolenames'. Which sounds like crap to me. But whatever.
Eventually, I decided to fakeclaim 1 shot rolename alignment check because he wouldnt tell me his rolename. After I said that, he gave it up willingly. I then came back and pm'ed him that the result was that its a fake role name. Fakeclaim. Which means he is scum. He then said something along the lines of 'ok dude' And nothing else. So that makes me think he is town cause he doesnt have an overt reaction. I dunno. Thoughts guys?

Wait what? YOU are Ser Redacted? And when asked if something interested happened in the confines of your house (Winterfell, apparently), you decided to keep this rather controversial situation to the thread, saying that everything was groovy?

Explain yourself. Also, whatever gambit that was, it is atrocious. It doesn't sound indicative of Clarity's allegiance at all. It sounds like he gave you his real name and you derped it up, by claiming some nonsense name magic. I don't understand at all how you deduce that he is not a Blackfyre infiltrant from that, unless you were already privy to that information and were just dicking around.

While I often find it hard to uncover your motivations for doing things, this seems like a particularly stupid gaff. At first my grievances were with your lord, but it's possible that your entire house is Blackfyre scum?


Yes because obviously with that exchange between me and oats, the possibility that we're both scum somehow still remains?
But yeah, whether I am town or scum I'd have reacted the same way, most likely.
That said, do you think Oats as scum pushes me really hard for my rolename (he underemphasized this, it was like 5 pms each of him asking me rolename and me asking "why?") and then when I refuse to give it he makes up a role like that?

Seems a bit farfetched for scum just to "dick around"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2013 19:00 GMT
#830
On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?


What the heck? If you think that's extremely indicative of Mafia play, you should take a look at DI's earlier games. He's active and spammy as town, inactive and useless as scum. Which do you think fits him here?

I preferred myself, but gumshoe preferred iamperfection and grackaroni also agreed with iamperfection being our Lord. I wasn't opposed to iamperfection either, just preferred myself (naturally I know I can trust myself 100%).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 19:00 GMT
#831
Acro is also not looking too hot, tbh
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 08 2013 19:01 GMT
#832
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 08 2013 19:02 GMT
#833
EBWOP: I forgot to add in a line about REDACTED being Oatsmaster
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 08 2013 19:02 GMT
#834
On August 09 2013 04:01 Risen wrote:
So yeah Clarity's interaction with REDACTED makes much more sense to me now. He told REDACTED about snb's role b/c they were scum mates. Clarity_nl is scum.


So I told Oats snb's rolename, and then oats told snb that I told him his rolename?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 08 2013 19:02 GMT
#835
What the fuck Risen.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 19:03 GMT
#836
Writing like this makes my posts look super srs too!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 08 2013 19:03 GMT
#837
On August 09 2013 04:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?


What the heck? If you think that's extremely indicative of Mafia play, you should take a look at DI's earlier games. He's active and spammy as town, inactive and useless as scum. Which do you think fits him here?

I preferred myself, but gumshoe preferred iamperfection and grackaroni also agreed with iamperfection being our Lord. I wasn't opposed to iamperfection either, just preferred myself (naturally I know I can trust myself 100%).


I think the scumteam has coached him to post this way so he appears to be playing to a town meta.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 08 2013 19:04 GMT
#838
Solstice PMd me a while ago saying that he would read the thread and explained, so I assumed that he would post here to explain as well. Maybe not? His explanation was that he didn't want DI lord purely because he would claim scum and blow our nightactions.

This ASSUMES that DI is scum, which Sol apparently thinks is very unlikely based on his read. It also assumes that DI would just claim scum N1 in exchange for some nightactions. And even if this did happen, who cares? I would gladly trade a 1-shot HP check and a vigi shot for a confirmed scum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 08 2013 19:04 GMT
#839
Anywho, I'm off to da beech. Hopefully people wake up and read through the thread to start chiming in.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 08 2013 19:04 GMT
#840
On August 09 2013 04:03 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:00 Xatalos wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?


What the heck? If you think that's extremely indicative of Mafia play, you should take a look at DI's earlier games. He's active and spammy as town, inactive and useless as scum. Which do you think fits him here?

I preferred myself, but gumshoe preferred iamperfection and grackaroni also agreed with iamperfection being our Lord. I wasn't opposed to iamperfection either, just preferred myself (naturally I know I can trust myself 100%).


I think the scumteam has coached him to post this way so he appears to be playing to a town meta.


So you agree that he appears like his town meta. But you seem really confident he's scum?
I don't even....
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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