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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE]
Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE]
By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone.
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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE]
Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE]
By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone.
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Could you maybe post some quotes from your PM conversations or something? I have a hard time just taking your word that everything was nice and good. Unless it's an all-town House, which is unlikely, there has to be something fishy.
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stop it with the fail quoting so anti town
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On August 08 2013 21:50 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:40 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 20:53 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 19:41 Koshi wrote:
Basically it went down in our house like this.
S0lstice wanted to be Lord, DandelIon wanted to be Lord, Chromatically wanted to be Lord. I didn't because I wanted the best scumhunter to be Lord. S0lstice had my preference because he seemed like the most serious and experienced member. S0lstice and DI were discussing between themselves to see who would become Lord and then DI told me that S0ltice is scum twice.
Because they were fighting I presented myself to be Lord but in the end we went for Chroma.
As for scumreads:
DandelIon his main goal is to stir shit up. I don't know the reasons the elected lords gave in your houses but DI just told us we should vote him so he could use all our House power to kill Kush. The second reason he told me was to vote him because s0lstice was scum. And when I ran for Lord, DI told me he was going to push for my lynch today. I am interested how he will come into this thread and prove why S0lstice and I are scum.
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Oh Dandel Ion... Are you scum again? What's your take on this post? load of shit. What happened: As obviously the best town player in the house, as well as obviously town when town, it was clear I was the best lord from the start. chrom said he wanted to be lord, but seemed pretty rational about not being the best choice since he's 1) average 2) a lurker but solstice on the other hand started acting up, and tried to strongarm his way to being lord by every means possible, even lying and misrepresenting my townplay to make himself look better (lol). Never even considering another lord but himself, even though he had stated HIMSELF that I was probably town and he'd elect me if he couldn't be eleced. And I decided he indeed couldn't be elected. Then he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. So Koshi, that guy said he didn't want to be lord at the start. ok weird but w/e. The he said he'd vote sol over me. So I slammed him with my spears of logic of why I'm best lord and he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. He then also decided to want to be lord for no reason at all. That was the tipping point from which on it was utterly IMPOSSIBLE to get anything out of him. every response then was needlessly passive/agressive, choke-full with either bad logic, or no logic at all, things like that. So basically he claimed scum. So I couldn't elect koshi cuz he was being a scummy bitch I couldn't elect sol cuz he was being a bitch I couldn't elect myself cuz koshi and sol were running around like emotional teenage girls. So I had to elect the lurker that's prolly not even going to use the PM ability cuz afk, just so we get one at all. My house is full of scum and baddies. I want to switch houses. LOL. Well, this post from you is definitely more than I got out of you in all your posts *combined* when you were scum last time. So I'm pretty sure you're town and telling the truth.
yeah tbh to anyone in my house with a functioning brain i should absolutely be confirmed town just based on effort but as I said, nobody there actually tries to read the other players....
Chrom seems pretty null from that. Both s0Lstice and Koshi look scummy. I'm more concerned about s0Lstice than Koshi, since Koshi is new (although he fooled me well last game) and s0Lstice should be able to see that you're a good choice for Lord - at least better than Chrom or Koshi (or probably himself, even if he was town).
koshi is not that new, so it doesn't excuse him.
agreed on sol, he should know how inferior he is. fun fact I even tried to explain it to him but he refuses to talk about it while deflecting it saying "oh that's just ego stuff and doesn't help u read me" which is odd considering how often I told him it does help, and also considering how little he is interested in reading people. Almost like he doesn't want other to read him, huh.
still think koshi was scummier by far, too bad I can't copy-paste PMs ;_;
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On August 08 2013 21:57 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
Dandel.
What I said was completely true.
Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.
Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
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And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad. What reasons has solstice given you when you voted him? What reasons have YOU given? none, I say. Stop tunneling on a little joke, you're as bad as sol.
He said he was experienced, a good scumhunter and a teamplayer.
You instead said you were going to kill kush, and don't tell me it was a little joke because you said it 3 times. After that you said that s0lstice was scum 2 times... No spears of logic were ever fired.
I said I wanted to be lord because it was clear that not S0l or you should have been Lord. So it was way better for me to be Lord and then listen to what you 2 had to say. THE EXACT same thing that eventually Chroma got elected.
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im not even reading the failed quote posts.
fix that shit if you want anybody to see it.
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On August 08 2013 22:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
Dandel.
What I said was completely true.
Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.
Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
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And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad. What reasons has solstice given you when you voted him? What reasons have YOU given? none, I say. Stop tunneling on a little joke, you're as bad as sol. He said he was experienced, a good scumhunter and a teamplayer. You instead said you were going to kill kush, and don't tell me it was a little joke because you said it 3 times. After that you said that s0lstice was scum 2 times... No spears of logic were ever fired. I said I wanted to be lord because it was clear that not S0l or you should have been Lord. So it was way better for me to be Lord and then listen to what you 2 had to say. THE EXACT same thing that eventually Chroma got elected.
I said I was experienced, a good scumhunter, and obviously town when town.
how is that not logic?
sol isn't any of what he claimed. He talks about teamplaying and putting heads together and whatnot, but he doesn't listen, and I've not been able to make him share even a single read. tl;dr: he's bullshitting.
a joke is not a joke because i just went with it? what
bolded still makes no sense
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Especially since your reason for invalidating sol from being lord was me calling him scum without giving you a reason.
So you claim you're listening to me blindly, but do what you do so you don't have to listen to me?
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On August 08 2013 22:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
im not even reading the failed quote posts.
fix that shit if you want anybody to see it.
On August 08 2013 22:03 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm. Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon. By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone. Could you maybe post some quotes from your PM conversations or something? I have a hard time just taking your word that everything was nice and good. Unless it's an all-town House, which is unlikely, there has to be something fishy.
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On August 08 2013 22:10 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
im not even reading the failed quote posts.
fix that shit if you want anybody to see it. Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:03 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm. Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon. By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone. Could you maybe post some quotes from your PM conversations or something? I have a hard time just taking your word that everything was nice and good. Unless it's an all-town House, which is unlikely, there has to be something fishy.
Sure, get me modkilled.
Way to go.
On August 07 2013 11:07 DrParnassus wrote:
3 hours till game start. Two hours from now I will ask for silence and then begin sending out role pms. As stated earlier we are starting on N0, and nights are silent. Only in-house player to player pms are allowed during N0, there will be no other actions aside from pms and lord elections. You can only use TL Forum PMS for this. You aren't allowed to post logs of pms or copy and past any text/timestamps from a pm you received from either host or player. You are required to vote for the nightly election, do so by pm'ing this account.
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On August 08 2013 22:07 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:04 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 21:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
Dandel.
What I said was completely true.
Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.
Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
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And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad. What reasons has solstice given you when you voted him? What reasons have YOU given? none, I say. Stop tunneling on a little joke, you're as bad as sol. He said he was experienced, a good scumhunter and a teamplayer. You instead said you were going to kill kush, and don't tell me it was a little joke because you said it 3 times. After that you said that s0lstice was scum 2 times... No spears of logic were ever fired. I said I wanted to be lord because it was clear that not S0l or you should have been Lord. So it was way better for me to be Lord and then listen to what you 2 had to say. THE EXACT same thing that eventually Chroma got elected. I said I was experienced, a good scumhunter, and obviously town when town. how is that not logic? sol isn't any of what he claimed. He talks about teamplaying and putting heads together and whatnot, but he doesn't listen, and I've not been able to make him share even a single read. tl;dr: he's bullshitting. a joke is not a joke because i just went with it? what bolded still makes no sense
My past experience with s0lstice is that he is, in fact, decent at sniffing out plotting rebels. I doubt I'd call him experienced, but he isn't green behind the ears. Being a teamplayer is completely subjective and often dependent on the team in the cutthroat environment that is the Game of Thrones.
I have no idea what happened behind the closed doors of Storm's End, but shutting down s0lstice for these reasons seems disingenious. Just saying.
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On August 08 2013 22:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Especially since your reason for invalidating sol from being lord was me calling him scum without giving you a reason.
So you claim you're listening to me blindly, but do what you do so you don't have to listen to me?
This is getting confusing. Koshi, could you explain your line of thought during N0 more clearly?
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Oh, I'd like to add that this has no bearing on whether Koshi and s0lstice are in fact plotting rebel scum or not. It is merely to clear up whether they were lying to get elected, or you were all just angry over miscommunication.
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On August 08 2013 22:12 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:07 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 22:04 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 21:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
Dandel.
What I said was completely true.
Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.
Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
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And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad. What reasons has solstice given you when you voted him? What reasons have YOU given? none, I say. Stop tunneling on a little joke, you're as bad as sol. He said he was experienced, a good scumhunter and a teamplayer. You instead said you were going to kill kush, and don't tell me it was a little joke because you said it 3 times. After that you said that s0lstice was scum 2 times... No spears of logic were ever fired. I said I wanted to be lord because it was clear that not S0l or you should have been Lord. So it was way better for me to be Lord and then listen to what you 2 had to say. THE EXACT same thing that eventually Chroma got elected. I said I was experienced, a good scumhunter, and obviously town when town. how is that not logic? sol isn't any of what he claimed. He talks about teamplaying and putting heads together and whatnot, but he doesn't listen, and I've not been able to make him share even a single read. tl;dr: he's bullshitting. a joke is not a joke because i just went with it? what bolded still makes no sense My past experience with s0lstice is that he is, in fact, decent at sniffing out plotting rebels. I doubt I'd call him experienced, but he isn't green behind the ears. Being a teamplayer is completely subjective and often dependent on the team in the cutthroat environment that is the Game of Thrones. I have no idea what happened behind the closed doors of Storm's End, but shutting down s0lstice for these reasons seems disingenious. Just saying.
His argument for being lord over me was basically that he's by and far the best town player.
Which is not true because that's me.
1) my reads are better
2) I'm able to look town as town
simple.
I'm not saying he's a complete moron (except to his face because it pisses him off), but I'm better.
And apart from his alleged qualities, there was no reason given to elect him, so clearly he should be able to tell that I make the better lord just from that.
Especially since he's not actually that bad, you see.
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On August 08 2013 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:10 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 22:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
im not even reading the failed quote posts.
fix that shit if you want anybody to see it. On August 08 2013 22:03 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm. Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon. By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone. Could you maybe post some quotes from your PM conversations or something? I have a hard time just taking your word that everything was nice and good. Unless it's an all-town House, which is unlikely, there has to be something fishy. Sure, get me modkilled. Way to go. Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 11:07 DrParnassus wrote:
3 hours till game start. Two hours from now I will ask for silence and then begin sending out role pms. As stated earlier we are starting on N0, and nights are silent. Only in-house player to player pms are allowed during N0, there will be no other actions aside from pms and lord elections. You can only use TL Forum PMS for this. You aren't allowed to post logs of pms or copy and past any text/timestamps from a pm you received from either host or player. You are required to vote for the nightly election, do so by pm'ing this account.
I don't think small quotes from PM's matter? Or at least rephrasing what was said in your own words.
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On August 08 2013 22:12 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Especially since your reason for invalidating sol from being lord was me calling him scum without giving you a reason.
So you claim you're listening to me blindly, but do what you do so you don't have to listen to me? This is getting confusing. Koshi, could you explain your line of thought during N0 more clearly?
good luck getting an answer.
i've asked him this 10 times
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On August 08 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:12 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 21:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
So acro, any specifc questions? Do you think Yamato is a Blackfyre sympathist? not really no. Although, he could definetely play like this as scum, but I dont want to lynch him today
come on, both you jaberring at each other like jib jubs is definitely more an indication that your both more likely to be town.
Scum like to hide not fight.
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On August 08 2013 22:12 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Especially since your reason for invalidating sol from being lord was me calling him scum without giving you a reason.
So you claim you're listening to me blindly, but do what you do so you don't have to listen to me? This is getting confusing. Koshi, could you explain your line of thought during N0 more clearly?
Dandel does not want to work with s0lstice
s0lstice does not want to work with DI
----> Koshi says he could be lord so they can both work with him. How is that not 100% logical? Funny thing is, a couple hours later for that exact same reason Chroma gets elected and DI is yelling at me.......
Also, I told DI from the start that I didn't want to vote him because I knew how he played in NWM, so DI his response to that is that he will be killing Kush no matter what.
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On August 08 2013 22:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:12 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Especially since your reason for invalidating sol from being lord was me calling him scum without giving you a reason.
So you claim you're listening to me blindly, but do what you do so you don't have to listen to me? This is getting confusing. Koshi, could you explain your line of thought during N0 more clearly? Dandel does not want to work with s0lstice s0lstice does not want to work with DI ----> Koshi says he could be lord so they can both work with him. How is that not 100% logical? Funny thing is, a couple hours later for that exact same reason Chroma gets elected and DI is yelling at me....... Also, I told DI from the start that I didn't want to vote him because I knew how he played in NWM, so DI his response to that is that he will be killing Kush no matter what.
because chrom was not an inconsistent passive-aggressive emo about it
and actually tried to read other people at least A LITTLE
not something you did so far.
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
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And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.
I dont understand why you would cry like a baby about that. Who cares how we figure out peoples alignment.
Your pettiness about this subject shows to me that you dont seem that interested in solving the game.
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