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On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread.
1) And so my heuristics are wrong?
2) Ok?
3) No, I called you scum because your scumreads are bullshit.
4) Whats the point of answering your question?
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On August 08 2013 21:12 Acrofales wrote:Do you think Yamato is a Blackfyre sympathist?
not really no.
Although, he could definetely play like this as scum, but I dont want to lynch him today
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On August 08 2013 20:53 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 19:41 Koshi wrote:
Basically it went down in our house like this.
S0lstice wanted to be Lord, DandelIon wanted to be Lord, Chromatically wanted to be Lord. I didn't because I wanted the best scumhunter to be Lord. S0lstice had my preference because he seemed like the most serious and experienced member. S0lstice and DI were discussing between themselves to see who would become Lord and then DI told me that S0ltice is scum twice.
Because they were fighting I presented myself to be Lord but in the end we went for Chroma.
As for scumreads:
DandelIon his main goal is to stir shit up. I don't know the reasons the elected lords gave in your houses but DI just told us we should vote him so he could use all our House power to kill Kush. The second reason he told me was to vote him because s0lstice was scum. And when I ran for Lord, DI told me he was going to push for my lynch today. I am interested how he will come into this thread and prove why S0lstice and I are scum.
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Oh Dandel Ion... Are you scum again? What's your take on this post?
load of shit.
What happened:
As obviously the best town player in the house, as well as obviously town when town, it was clear I was the best lord from the start.
chrom said he wanted to be lord, but seemed pretty rational about not being the best choice since he's 1) average 2) a lurker
but solstice on the other hand started acting up, and tried to strongarm his way to being lord by every means possible, even lying and misrepresenting my townplay to make himself look better (lol).
Never even considering another lord but himself, even though he had stated HIMSELF that I was probably town and he'd elect me if he couldn't be eleced. And I decided he indeed couldn't be elected. Then he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it.
So Koshi, that guy said he didn't want to be lord at the start. ok weird but w/e.
The he said he'd vote sol over me.
So I slammed him with my spears of logic of why I'm best lord and he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it.
He then also decided to want to be lord for no reason at all. That was the tipping point from which on it was utterly IMPOSSIBLE to get anything out of him. every response then was needlessly passive/agressive, choke-full with either bad logic, or no logic at all, things like that.
So basically he claimed scum.
So I couldn't elect koshi cuz he was being a scummy bitch
I couldn't elect sol cuz he was being a bitch
I couldn't elect myself cuz koshi and sol were running around like emotional teenage girls.
So I had to elect the lurker that's prolly not even going to use the PM ability cuz afk, just so we get one at all.
My house is full of scum and baddies.
I want to switch houses.
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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE]
Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.
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On August 08 2013 21:28 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:20 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 21:13 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
Yamato's rampage reminds me a bit of myself in some of my town games. It would be more constructive to restrain from jumping the gun, though. Are you town this game? I haven't seen you shit up the thread yet.
Dear friends (and Martells), As the Lord of Highgarden I ask you to please stop the senseless bickering. We have Blackfyre sympathists amongst us and nothing you have said so far has helped me decide who is friendly with the rebel scum. I have come to King's Landing to end their cause. The most interesting information anyone has brought has come from House Baratheon. I would like to hear more about their internal politics, in order to determine whether Blackfyres have infiltrated them. I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm. Within my own house there was no strife either, but the voting process was short and did not give much alignment indicative information. I feel this open forum is a better place for uncovering Blackfyre sympathists than in the private confines of Highgarden. Yours sincerely, Acrofales Tyrell This is such a generic and wishy-washy opening post -.- I hope you're not scum with gumshoe. Why not include me as well? As for causing havoc and destruction, you can ask my fellow House members. Some of them have already felt my wrath. I will ask your Lord. For now: do you think gumshoe is scum? If so, why? Is he the black sheep in your family? Please elaborate. Elsewise this post is just you throwing suspicions around for no sensible reason. You could start by reading the thread or at least my earlier posts...... But anyways, if you didn't get it, that part about gumshoe was just a joke related to the previous GOT Mafia. The part about your opening post being wishy-washy and generic wasn't, though.
I think you're confusing flavoured with wishy-washy.
I understand you feel Grackaroni is the black sheep, yet you make specific reference to gumshoe, and that seemed strange. Associations with past rebellions seems like a rather tenuous link, and I find it unbecoming that you would immediately jump to the conclusion that not only am I a Blackfyre sympathist, but I am in cahoots with one of your own kinfolk. One you had so far not suspected at all.
Your other actions in this public forum have been decidedly non-committal. You have discussed philosophical nothingnesses, rather than try to catch Blackfyre scumbags. Do you suspect Grackaroni of being a Blackfyre?
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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE]
Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE]
There was no hidden text in my opening speech. You calling it such is because you are realizing you bit off more than you could chew in calling it wishy-washy and bringing my attention to yourself. What, exactly, was HIDDEN about that phrase?
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oh and it was because chrom was the only one trying to figure out other players (apart from myself)
koshi was saying i can't be lord because i was scumhunting (i know makes as much sense as it sounds)
solstice was not trying to read other players at all, just tried everything short of selling his mother to become lord (not shifty at all)
Out of the two, Koshi is pretty sure to be scum, solstice might be a second scum, who knows, it wouldn't surprise me, but I'm still not one way or the other on him.
koshi scum tho.
house is full of scum.
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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE]
Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE]
By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone.
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Dandel you can come join my house, np.
Koshi played pretty weirdly as town in Titanic so I wouldn't quite say he claimed scum. That said, he did say he was trolling to see how far he could take it without taking heat (and he was town, sigh.
On August 08 2013 19:09 Xatalos wrote:
Heh, you don't need to convince me about that. I've already stated that I see no use in hiding House member lists. It just slows down scumhunting without likely any gain IMO.
I hate to come back to this subject, but Xatalos could you explain how hiding house member lists slows scumhunting?
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Just look at how badly koshi needed to preempt me.
Guess why I told him I was going for him.
preemptive defense gg scum
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On August 08 2013 21:45 Clarity_nl wrote:Dandel you can come join my house, np. Koshi played pretty weirdly as town in Titanic so I wouldn't quite say he claimed scum. That said, he did say he was trolling to see how far he could take it without taking heat (and he was town, sigh. Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 19:09 Xatalos wrote:
Heh, you don't need to convince me about that. I've already stated that I see no use in hiding House member lists. It just slows down scumhunting without likely any gain IMO. I hate to come back to this subject, but Xatalos could you explain how hiding house member lists slows scumhunting?
He was openly going for a no-lord voting.
He's not town.
I've seen retarded town. I've seen trolls. This is not it.
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Oh my, my speech is all garbled. I have fixed my stuttering problem with a swig of wine:
On August 08 2013 21:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm. Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon. There was no hidden text in my opening speech. You calling it such is because you are realizing you bit off more than you could chew in calling it wishy-washy and bringing my attention to yourself. What, exactly, was HIDDEN about that phrase?
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On August 08 2013 21:46 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:45 Clarity_nl wrote:Dandel you can come join my house, np. Koshi played pretty weirdly as town in Titanic so I wouldn't quite say he claimed scum. That said, he did say he was trolling to see how far he could take it without taking heat (and he was town, sigh. On August 08 2013 19:09 Xatalos wrote:
Heh, you don't need to convince me about that. I've already stated that I see no use in hiding House member lists. It just slows down scumhunting without likely any gain IMO. I hate to come back to this subject, but Xatalos could you explain how hiding house member lists slows scumhunting? He was openly going for a no-lord voting. He's not town. I've seen retarded town. I've seen trolls. This is not it.
So you wanna lynch him today then?
I might be willing to go with this unless someone else in the house can contradict this.
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On August 08 2013 21:40 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 20:53 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 19:41 Koshi wrote:
Basically it went down in our house like this.
S0lstice wanted to be Lord, DandelIon wanted to be Lord, Chromatically wanted to be Lord. I didn't because I wanted the best scumhunter to be Lord. S0lstice had my preference because he seemed like the most serious and experienced member. S0lstice and DI were discussing between themselves to see who would become Lord and then DI told me that S0ltice is scum twice.
Because they were fighting I presented myself to be Lord but in the end we went for Chroma.
As for scumreads:
DandelIon his main goal is to stir shit up. I don't know the reasons the elected lords gave in your houses but DI just told us we should vote him so he could use all our House power to kill Kush. The second reason he told me was to vote him because s0lstice was scum. And when I ran for Lord, DI told me he was going to push for my lynch today. I am interested how he will come into this thread and prove why S0lstice and I are scum.
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Oh Dandel Ion... Are you scum again? What's your take on this post? load of shit. What happened: As obviously the best town player in the house, as well as obviously town when town, it was clear I was the best lord from the start. chrom said he wanted to be lord, but seemed pretty rational about not being the best choice since he's 1) average 2) a lurker but solstice on the other hand started acting up, and tried to strongarm his way to being lord by every means possible, even lying and misrepresenting my townplay to make himself look better (lol). Never even considering another lord but himself, even though he had stated HIMSELF that I was probably town and he'd elect me if he couldn't be eleced. And I decided he indeed couldn't be elected. Then he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. So Koshi, that guy said he didn't want to be lord at the start. ok weird but w/e. The he said he'd vote sol over me. So I slammed him with my spears of logic of why I'm best lord and he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. He then also decided to want to be lord for no reason at all. That was the tipping point from which on it was utterly IMPOSSIBLE to get anything out of him. every response then was needlessly passive/agressive, choke-full with either bad logic, or no logic at all, things like that. So basically he claimed scum. So I couldn't elect koshi cuz he was being a scummy bitch I couldn't elect sol cuz he was being a bitch I couldn't elect myself cuz koshi and sol were running around like emotional teenage girls. So I had to elect the lurker that's prolly not even going to use the PM ability cuz afk, just so we get one at all. My house is full of scum and baddies. I want to switch houses.
LOL. Well, this post from you is definitely more than I got out of you in all your posts *combined* when you were scum last time. So I'm pretty sure you're town and telling the truth.
Chrom seems pretty null from that. Both s0Lstice and Koshi look scummy. I'm more concerned about s0Lstice than Koshi, since Koshi is new (although he fooled me well last game) and s0Lstice should be able to see that you're a good choice for Lord - at least better than Chrom or Koshi (or probably himself, even if he was town).
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Dandel.
What I said was completely true.
Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.
Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
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@ all others
And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.
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On August 08 2013 21:45 Clarity_nl wrote:Dandel you can come join my house, np. Koshi played pretty weirdly as town in Titanic so I wouldn't quite say he claimed scum. That said, he did say he was trolling to see how far he could take it without taking heat (and he was town, sigh. Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 19:09 Xatalos wrote:
Heh, you don't need to convince me about that. I've already stated that I see no use in hiding House member lists. It just slows down scumhunting without likely any gain IMO. I hate to come back to this subject, but Xatalos could you explain how hiding house member lists slows scumhunting?
Take a look at how Koshi's member list + explanation has advanced scumhunting so far. Same can be said for grackaroni's member list, although to a much lesser degree. There are countless ways how more open information can enforce us to focus on scumhunting rather than speculation about the Houses.
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.
personal attacks and jumping to conclusions not cool
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
Dandel.
What I said was completely true.
Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.
Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
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@ all others
And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.
What reasons has solstice given you when you voted him?
What reasons have YOU given?
none, I say.
Stop tunneling on a little joke, you're as bad as sol.
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
See i dont even understand why you got there.
which is weird because i always explain things very nicely and consiscly.
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On August 08 2013 21:47 Acrofales wrote:Oh my, my speech is all garbled. I have fixed my stuttering problem with a swig of wine: Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:43 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm. Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon. There was no hidden text in my opening speech. You calling it such is because you are realizing you bit off more than you could chew in calling it wishy-washy and bringing my attention to yourself. What, exactly, was HIDDEN about that phrase?
Sigh. It was a wishy-washy wall of text with no real content. The only thing I noticed worth repeating in all of that text was the vague question you addressed at Oats (which he or nobody else noticed -> "hidden"). I'm also still waiting, Oats.
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