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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#4081
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FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#4082
Does that look like a townie to you?

Btw dandel calling someone a lurker, and he's not even wrong, lol
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 17:39 GMT
#4083
Lol Clarity.

OK. Would it now be time to use some HP checks? I think we can deduce at least who are NOT scum from those. If Sharrant has damage, he's town, for example.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18218 Posts
August 17 2013 17:40 GMT
#4084
On August 18 2013 00:20 s0Lstice wrote:
Acro can you walk me through your thought process between these two posts?

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:45 Acrofales wrote:
Also, I think I'm wrong on Rayn. Mocsta was incriminating him in PM and telling me to push his lynch while calling SnB town.

This game is too easy. Scum surrender pl0x?


Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 22:26 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:48 Xatalos wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
That last line is phrased poorly but you get the idea. No logical sense from rayn.

No, read my posts again. You are totally wrong in what you are saying.


Again, you called me a liar twice and now wrong. Yet again, no explanation where I was lying and what is wrong.

Xata asked you: "if you think onegu is scum that must mean you think clarity is scum, is he?"
You answered: "yes, he is"

Problem is then you made up weird reasons

Yes i thought you were scum at that time. Not for same reasons than Onegu.


But the same "reasoning" applied to both Clarity and Onegu equally.......

Jesus. This thread has gone to shit... and by the looks of it Rayn is the reason. Why are people even engaging him? He's scum.

So is SnB, and so is Mocsta. Their coup failed, because they planned to kill Clarity, but failed: SnB didn't become lord, and town controls 3 votes.

I don't give a shit in which order we kill them.


Well, it was mainly continued thought about why Sharrant would be left alive and unroleblocked. It seems to me the only reason scum would do that is because they make a big play, seize control over town and are never planning on letting go: cop checks are irrelevant if you're planning on claiming scum anyway.

With Mocsta and SnB pretty deep red, and DI pretty green, that means either Grackaroni, or Rayn has to be scum for it to work at all. I have somewhat of a town read on Grack, and despite Mocsta's PMs, I can obviously see Rayn as scum. Obviously the thought of the plot actually working, and SnB/Clarity being irrelevant to it crossed my mind, but then there's nothing we can do anyway, so why bother about it. Obviously with Mocsta being town, it seems far more likely that they are both scum now, IF it was a Big Play. They might just have been banking on being able to kill Sharrant and a clutch medic saved his life.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 17:46 GMT
#4085
On August 18 2013 02:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
stark still has its hp check although obviousy can't use it today, and I expect to die along with my sealbuddy tomorrow.


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 17:47 GMT
#4086
Scum are the true seal clubbers, yamato
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 17:49 GMT
#4087
Unless scum are doing big play sunday because in that case, regardless of snb being scum or not, they won't kill me.
I don't care that much right now though, just want mocsta to die.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#4088
Actually we have two HP checks right? It would be interesting to see where all the scum KP went yesterday. Sharrant? Me? Clarity? If you coordinate and have some luck, I think you could find out who are at least certainly town.

Although it might still be better to save it for later... Dunno. I'm just overly curious so I want to know.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 17:52 GMT
#4089
AFTER the mocsta flip, if he flips town and not miller, I'm okay with hp checking sharrant (since it hits johnny too)
If sharrant has taken damage (let's just assume he has 7 hp) then he's town. If he hasn't we probably need to lynch him.
Same for johnny although scum wouldn't shoot him I don't think.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
August 17 2013 17:52 GMT
#4090
On August 17 2013 14:07 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:06 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:05 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:01 Mocsta wrote:
Hhmmm why did xatalos relinquish?

That is far from the most interesting question. WTF happened in Winterfell? SnB scum and some kinda coupe?


what do you mean?

We'll know soon enough. If Rayn, Mocsta and Grack instavote for someone, we're fucked.


On August 17 2013 14:15 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:10 s0Lstice wrote:
we aren't at mylo are we?

because that is not a concern otherwise.

Closed setup, so good luck defining whether we're at lylo or not.

House Stark not having a leader seems like a scumplay. The lack of deaths seems like IF it was a power grab it only half-succeeded at best. I'm gonna park my vote. Plurality lynch, so better be paranoid as hell.

##vote Strongandbig


Ok. These two quotes came before the ones I presented to you. So your thought process at the time of these quotes is that Sharrant is town and the check is valid and scum must be making a big play. Within that idea of a big play is that Mocsta, SnB, and Grack/Rayn are scum. How does this quote exist at the time that it happened then?

On August 17 2013 14:45 Acrofales wrote:
Also, I think I'm wrong on Rayn. Mocsta was incriminating him in PM and telling me to push his lynch while calling SnB town.

This game is too easy. Scum surrender pl0x?


You can't be thinking that scum is making a big play (which requires a scum Rayn) and also thinking that Sharrant is town-->has a valid check-->Mocsta is scum-->Rayn is innocent because of attacks by Mocsta. Like these two thoughts cannot exist at the same time.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
August 17 2013 17:53 GMT
#4091
EBWOP previous @ Acro obviously
ATOBTTR
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#4092
Sharrant enrages people till they see red. Yamato went crazy, Mocsta went crazy. I that it is a coincidence and not a real role but wtf? Why is Mocsta not yelling at Sharrant, same shit with yamato. Just prove the other guy is scum lol.

@Xatalos Grack got RB. When you die, Grack would have been Lord anyway.

Clarity/Rayn. Wtf seriously? I don't even know what that was about. You call each other scum and you both go crazy for 5 pages?

Sharrant is a dumbass. Can somebody PM this guy and tell him he should read my case vs iamp. I think he didn't read that or something. Or he didn't know that Lannisters used the hp check and told the thread. His case vs me is so bad...

Risen should be looked at now. First he buddies Chrom for pointing out a mistakes in his case. Then he scrutinizes me for saying that this detail in his case still doesn't mean his entire case is shit.

At this point I think Risen/Sharrant are both scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#4093
I have read the thread now and I am home. Slightly drunk.
I had a good night of sleep.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18218 Posts
August 17 2013 17:59 GMT
#4094
On August 18 2013 02:52 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:07 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:06 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:05 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:01 Mocsta wrote:
Hhmmm why did xatalos relinquish?

That is far from the most interesting question. WTF happened in Winterfell? SnB scum and some kinda coupe?


what do you mean?

We'll know soon enough. If Rayn, Mocsta and Grack instavote for someone, we're fucked.


Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:15 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:10 s0Lstice wrote:
we aren't at mylo are we?

because that is not a concern otherwise.

Closed setup, so good luck defining whether we're at lylo or not.

House Stark not having a leader seems like a scumplay. The lack of deaths seems like IF it was a power grab it only half-succeeded at best. I'm gonna park my vote. Plurality lynch, so better be paranoid as hell.

##vote Strongandbig


Ok. These two quotes came before the ones I presented to you. So your thought process at the time of these quotes is that Sharrant is town and the check is valid and scum must be making a big play. Within that idea of a big play is that Mocsta, SnB, and Grack/Rayn are scum. How does this quote exist at the time that it happened then?

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:45 Acrofales wrote:
Also, I think I'm wrong on Rayn. Mocsta was incriminating him in PM and telling me to push his lynch while calling SnB town.

This game is too easy. Scum surrender pl0x?


You can't be thinking that scum is making a big play (which requires a scum Rayn) and also thinking that Sharrant is town-->has a valid check-->Mocsta is scum-->Rayn is innocent because of attacks by Mocsta. Like these two thoughts cannot exist at the same time.


Well, for starters, I received the PM from Mocsta in which he pushed Rayn hard AFTER the first post.

Secondly, the red check happened, and it's very different to have suspicions on Mocsta and have a credible red check on Mocsta.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#4095
On August 18 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote:
Sharrant enrages people till they see red. Yamato went crazy, Mocsta went crazy. I that it is a coincidence and not a real role but wtf? Why is Mocsta not yelling at Sharrant, same shit with yamato. Just prove the other guy is scum lol.

@Xatalos Grack got RB. When you die, Grack would have been Lord anyway.

Clarity/Rayn. Wtf seriously? I don't even know what that was about. You call each other scum and you both go crazy for 5 pages?

Sharrant is a dumbass. Can somebody PM this guy and tell him he should read my case vs iamp. I think he didn't read that or something. Or he didn't know that Lannisters used the hp check and told the thread. His case vs me is so bad...

Risen should be looked at now. First he buddies Chrom for pointing out a mistakes in his case. Then he scrutinizes me for saying that this detail in his case still doesn't mean his entire case is shit.

At this point I think Risen/Sharrant are both scum.


Why did Risen bus Sharrant so hard D2 then though?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
August 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4096
On August 18 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 02:52 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:07 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:06 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:05 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:01 Mocsta wrote:
Hhmmm why did xatalos relinquish?

That is far from the most interesting question. WTF happened in Winterfell? SnB scum and some kinda coupe?


what do you mean?

We'll know soon enough. If Rayn, Mocsta and Grack instavote for someone, we're fucked.


On August 17 2013 14:15 Acrofales wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:10 s0Lstice wrote:
we aren't at mylo are we?

because that is not a concern otherwise.

Closed setup, so good luck defining whether we're at lylo or not.

House Stark not having a leader seems like a scumplay. The lack of deaths seems like IF it was a power grab it only half-succeeded at best. I'm gonna park my vote. Plurality lynch, so better be paranoid as hell.

##vote Strongandbig


Ok. These two quotes came before the ones I presented to you. So your thought process at the time of these quotes is that Sharrant is town and the check is valid and scum must be making a big play. Within that idea of a big play is that Mocsta, SnB, and Grack/Rayn are scum. How does this quote exist at the time that it happened then?

On August 17 2013 14:45 Acrofales wrote:
Also, I think I'm wrong on Rayn. Mocsta was incriminating him in PM and telling me to push his lynch while calling SnB town.

This game is too easy. Scum surrender pl0x?


You can't be thinking that scum is making a big play (which requires a scum Rayn) and also thinking that Sharrant is town-->has a valid check-->Mocsta is scum-->Rayn is innocent because of attacks by Mocsta. Like these two thoughts cannot exist at the same time.


Well, for starters, I received the PM from Mocsta in which he pushed Rayn hard AFTER the first post.

Secondly, the red check happened, and it's very different to have suspicions on Mocsta and have a credible red check on Mocsta.


ahh k this makes sense

just as an aside, not at all related to our alignments, do you think this game should be declared a draw?
ATOBTTR
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
August 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4097
Mocsta has been modkilled.

+ Show Spoiler [role pm] +
You are Elleria Sand, a Vanilla Townie of House Martell. You may communicate with your house partners Oberyn, yamato, and onegu. You may only use TL forum pms for this. PM your nightly lord election votes to DrParnassus
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4098
On August 18 2013 02:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
AFTER the mocsta flip, if he flips town and not miller, I'm okay with hp checking sharrant (since it hits johnny too)
If sharrant has taken damage (let's just assume he has 7 hp) then he's town. If he hasn't we probably need to lynch him.
Same for johnny although scum wouldn't shoot him I don't think.


I guess then we'd at least know how much KP is needed to kill johnnywup...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 18:03 GMT
#4099
There is no punishment to town for Mocsta's actions?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 17 2013 18:04 GMT
#4100
On August 18 2013 03:01 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote:
Sharrant enrages people till they see red. Yamato went crazy, Mocsta went crazy. I that it is a coincidence and not a real role but wtf? Why is Mocsta not yelling at Sharrant, same shit with yamato. Just prove the other guy is scum lol.

@Xatalos Grack got RB. When you die, Grack would have been Lord anyway.

Clarity/Rayn. Wtf seriously? I don't even know what that was about. You call each other scum and you both go crazy for 5 pages?

Sharrant is a dumbass. Can somebody PM this guy and tell him he should read my case vs iamp. I think he didn't read that or something. Or he didn't know that Lannisters used the hp check and told the thread. His case vs me is so bad...

Risen should be looked at now. First he buddies Chrom for pointing out a mistakes in his case. Then he scrutinizes me for saying that this detail in his case still doesn't mean his entire case is shit.

At this point I think Risen/Sharrant are both scum.


Why did Risen bus Sharrant so hard D2 then though?

Don't know, maybe he knew his case was crazy and people would not believe it. Chrom pointing out the mistake made them bffs and me continuing to go after Sharrant made us archenemies.
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