Titanic Mini Mafia! - Page 4

On July 29 2013 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I already did that. Do you want to lynch Koshi or not? And why?

On July 29 2013 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Why does it matter that you biggest scumread is pushing paper? What if you are wrong? Are you ignoring the possibility that Paper is mafia because of pre-flip association? That to me sounds like an excuse to avoid voting for / looking into someone.

On July 29 2013 05:02 exarezee wrote:


You could look into paper's posts and form a thought on whether he is town or mafia rather than basing it solely on what you think my alignment is.

On July 27 2013 15:04 Paperscraps wrote:


Agreed. The day has barely begun. If anyone has a serious FoS, they need to check themselves. Half the town hasn't even posted yet. I was hoping people would want to be a bit more "charismatic" today , but it looks like playing the standard super serious pro-town meta game will be more beneficial to the passengers on this ship. It is just ever so boring, but I can deal with it.

TLDR; Besides the first question on my first post, I haven't been serious at all.

##Unvote

My first real read of this game is that I like where Tofu's head is at so far.

I kind of feel bad, that exar wasted his time dissecting my shenanigans, haha, but not too bad .

On July 28 2013 10:24 Paperscraps wrote:
I have finally caught up! I wrote down some reads as I was catching up.

First off I need to say some stuff about my play early on. I get why people would find me scummy so far, tone and sarcasm are hard to convey in text. This is why I will play a more standard game from now on. It isn't helping people find scum, if they are looking at me for joking and being sarcastic and not understanding that is all it is.

hzflank leaning town - The more and more I read hz, the more I begin to like him. Not afraid to be abrasive and stand his ground.

exarezee null - The argument of either Tofu or I having to be scum strikes me as odd. I don't see any interactions between FT and I, that would merit this stance. I would like a more in-depth analysis of this pairing.
One thing that bugs me about exarezee is that he has reacted in a "noob" fashion to the two early votes on him. With his 100+ games played on the poker forums, which I have no reason to doubt, I just can't see why he would react so defensively. I am probably over thinking my read on exarezee, but I don't see him flipping scum at the moment, due his push on me which holds no substance and his reaction.

Oats leaning town - I am really hoping Oats is town, his reads and post so far have been great. His comprehension of what is going on is probably the best so far.

Clarity leaning town - Nothing really to elaborate on Clarity so far, I doubt most of the players would disagree.

One great interaction I found so far was this.



This interaction seems genuine. If either of hzflank or exarezee were scum, I would say the other isn't.

CapJackSparrow null - I totally dig his RP gimmick so far and I am biased toward him in a good way. I want to say I lean town on him, but I would hold judgement on his alignment for now.

Tofu null - I don't think his push on exarezee is the best. It seems to be grasping. The thing with making cases in general is you can always twist and skew people's filter to whatever you think is right. Initially I leaned town on FT, but after his case I retract that some what.

Vayne leaning town - not sure what to think of vayne as of yet, he comes in every so often and drops some knowledge. I think his vote on clarity is pretty bad though. His filter strikes me as town though.

Koshi leaning town - Koshi is a odd ball so far. I like that he town reads me, haha. I mostly agree with the lists he has made so far.

I am going to read some filters more in-depth and meditate on what I have come up with so far. I don't have a strong scum read at the moment.

Also I realize I haven't commented on some people who have posted, the reads above were what stuck out to me most on my initial read through.

On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote:
@exarezee

If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.

I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.

You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though.

On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
##Vote: justanothertownie

JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.

Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.

Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.

hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.

I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post.

On July 29 2013 05:46 Vivax wrote:


It's funny, Tofu, you actually bring some good arguments to the table (the "vote for me if you want" one), except for the reads. Do you automatically assume that wrong=scum?

What makes me curious is that you want someone who is scummy to redeem himself? Is he scum or is he not scum? If he's scummy and you think is scummy, why exactly do you want him to redeem himself?

On July 29 2013 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I meant he does stupid stuff as town. See our QT, where he says he has no real reads. See also how he shoots mer 1 hour into the game. Also look at Sicilian where he flipped. On D1 he posted nothing but useless stuff. I am not saying he sure is town but i don't see anything scummy from him. Just dumb.

On July 29 2013 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

FT/Paper/JAT.

On July 29 2013 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yeah but there are like 8 players who think you are scummy... Why the fuck should i not push my top scumread?

On July 29 2013 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You should realize you are one of the top lynch candidates based purely on what people think of you.
You still haven't defended you against my case. Why?

Afaik you are not voting for anyone atm. Who do you want to lynch? You seem to think many people are scummy but you are not voting. Why?

On July 29 2013 07:08 Malongo wrote:

The thing is your case on Paper was conveniently tunneled and wagoned early and nipticked and I found you lying 2 times.
A) When you said the guy was not answering you directly. hint: he did
B) When you said *how pleople find Paper townie posting. hint: null =/= townie

That and the fact that now we are ending the day with 0 pressure on active lurkers as you wanted with your initial posts.

##Vote hzflank

On July 29 2013 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna be so fucking mad if you guys don't vote for Koshi today.

On July 29 2013 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a 95% feeling this lynch is gonna be a mislynch. I'll be back in 15min. Now sauna.

On July 29 2013 08:22 Vivax wrote:


Do you think it's even worth considering that Rayn could be scum?
What happened to your XRZ scumread actually. PS asked a good question: Why do you think it's so likely that XRZ is bussing PS so early?Cause that's what your current reads foot on.