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Stutters695
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 29 2013 05:00 Stutters695 wrote: And reading your part on Malongo Rayn I must say I disagree there. Any continued effort on his part and I'd believe you but one post is not a trend. It wasn't even that good of a post. I can understand your logic but that's null as shit to me. If we can't agree on a lynch I'd totally lynch him today but he's really better left to any vigs we have. Yeah, i agree that if Malongo does not contribute he should be vigged. My townread on him is very slim, but i have seen him not giving shit in any games he has played with me. He can go inactive for a day for any reason, and it's not alignment indicative for him. In last game he shot me right at the game start because i was not in the mason QT in the first hour.. He's not always logical and that does not make him mafia. On July 29 2013 05:02 exarezee wrote: You could look into paper's posts and form a thought on whether he is town or mafia rather than basing it solely on what you think my alignment is. That's my point.. ^^ I would like to hear from Clarity what makes Stutters/Malongo mafia, and why is FT town? I don't see him explaining these things. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 29 2013 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care if my reads follow the thread sentiment. They seem to do so, yes. What does that say to you? That i am scum because i think like other people in this game do? Does that sound ligical to you, because to me it sounds ridiculous. Why do you think we should lynch Stutters ot Malongo?`If you can point out something that makes one of them scum i'm willing to look closer into it. If you agreed with SOME popular opinions in the thread then yes, that's perfectly fine. If you agree with ALL popular opinions in the thread (and do not share a unique perspective with the town) then you're either scum just trying to fit in or an unhelpful townie. I don't agree with your reasons for Malongo being town, since if he's scum what you say still applies, but what you're saying about Vivax seems genuine. Am re-reading a bit now so gonna disappear. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 29 2013 05:17 Clarity_nl wrote: If you agreed with SOME popular opinions in the thread then yes, that's perfectly fine. If you agree with ALL popular opinions in the thread (and do not share a unique perspective with the town) then you're either scum just trying to fit in or an unhelpful townie. I don't agree with your reasons for Malongo being town, since if he's scum what you say still applies, but what you're saying about Vivax seems genuine. Am re-reading a bit now so gonna disappear. I am confused now. Are you calling me scum or not? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Wait your townread on Malongo is suddenly very slim? You seemed pretty confident in your list post. Why even have him as green on there. I would think if you base it off one post you better be damn sure your read on him is strong. | ||
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Vivax
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##Unvote ##Vote JustAnotherTownie On July 27 2013 20:13 justanothertownie wrote: Hey guys, just caught up. First impressions: I don't like Paperscraps. First he joins the lurker discussion without adding any content, then he starts to jump on exarezee without any good reason (I'm not really convinced that it was just a joke) and when he gets a little heat for it he totally backs off. I really hate this: So this is not serious at all? Add to this how he didn't post anything since he noticed people getting suspicious. To me he is the scummiest player so far. Also I'm annoyed by CJS. Going through his filter I can't find anything valuable - he just didn't say anything until this point (apart from fluff). Im quoting Oats here, from his case cause I think it's already an accurate argument. justanothertownie thinks its not a joke. But he doesnt explain why scum would do it, summerizes Paperscraps actions and just says its scummy. Scum take jokes seriously cause they play the game seriously. Similarly, this also applies to his last post: On July 28 2013 20:43 justanothertownie wrote: For now I still think Paper is a good lynch. His reads do not impress me. What? Please explain this. I don't know if we read the posts of the same person... Yeah, that's because you both don't have any real scumreads.... or do you really think Vivax is scum? Or that I am? ##Vote: Paperscraps He basically quotes the guys he disagrees about and uses that as argument that PS is a good lynch. Of these, he only shows different opinions on Vayne and koshi in the same post. I would love to lynch VA for his attitude towards the game but if he always plays like this then there is nothing about him that indicates any alignment. But I would like to know why Vayne thinks Oats voting Tofu is good? Also I'm still not content with Koshis explanation of his reads. So you actually don't have any scumread anymore besides the troll and the lurkers? JAT seems to disagree with PS's read that Oats is town, yet I don't see a single instance in JAT's filter that suggests that he thinks Oats is scum. All Oats is guilty of is attacking JAT initially. JAT's reasons look like a load of bollocks, and we should lynch him. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I'm saying I don't know but you're not helping town | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
You don't think JAT is new to the game? | ||
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Malongo
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On July 29 2013 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Malongo seems irritated by the fact he got lynched in the last game and is trying to play better. It seems like he is trying to play for town really hard compared to other games because of how people viewed him in those games. Stutters comes off as town as he noticed the same thing about Vivax i did. I tend to think people who agree with me are town, at least in things that most of the people seem to miss. My list is not based on thread sentiment. Maybe the thread sentiment is correct then if a lot of people agree on things. I think hz's tell is a strong town-tell, it's not stealing from you by any means. I just think alike you in that matter. Do you want to lynch FT? And it doesnt help me either that when I wake up I have to read 10 or more pages (and honestly didnt read with high proficiency). Our biggest problem right now is the lack of leads 3 hours to lynch. Thats why hz is still my prime suspect, I found it really bad when he posted about "consolidating 1 or 2 wagos early instead of pushing the lurkers". Clearly he wants to push Paper (wich is null to me atm) and every time he gets into an argument with someone his defence or case is slightly helped by other player around uninvolved. Read what other people has to say about him. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On July 29 2013 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Stutters talk with me. What do you want to know? What's your reas on my red/black reads? Absolutely. Give me a sec to type it up. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I shall continue later. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 29 2013 05:19 Clarity_nl wrote: rayn, I've explained what makes FT town, then I explained it again because oats can't read, now I have to do it a third time? Go away. Wait your townread on Malongo is suddenly very slim? You seemed pretty confident in your list post. Why even have him as green on there. I would think if you base it off one post you better be damn sure your read on him is strong. So these are your reasons: + Show Spoiler + On July 28 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote: I mean, I find the thing FirmTofu just did kinda hard to fake. Like, I guess if you're superscum it's like a mindgame thing, but if that were the case why did he seem so scummy in the first 12 hours. ##Unvote Am actually gonna be gone for a couple of hours but shall return later, look forward to hearing from Malongo. On July 28 2013 22:24 Clarity_nl wrote: Nah I don't think FT is scum anymore yo. I'm having issues with paper, yes he looks scummy but there's never been any pushbacks up until now, when suddenly and FT wagon is being formed (which makes sense, his posting is kinda scummy) It's that interaction where we was SUPER EXCITED HE FOUND A SCUMSLIP that happened, can't really see him as anything but town after that in my eyes. You need to elaborate more on the matter. I don't see any reasons there. At least good ones. For the reference check my filter from Catch 22 mafia D1, these things are not hard to fake. It's not "suddenly" very slim. It's a slight town read but still green. Deal with it. I don't want to lynch him because there are a lot of more scummy players. Now explain exactly why does FT "finding a scumslip that's not a scumslip" make him town? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Vivax
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On July 29 2013 05:22 Koshi wrote: Vivax You don't think JAT is new to the game? Is he? Even if he was, it still wouldn't explain why he lists Oats as read he disagrees with but never attacks him. If he's town and deliberately not openly talking about the players he finds suspicious, but lists them as not-town as means to attack somebody else, then he must be not just super newb, but super newb not wanting to play or solve the game. Koshi, you included him in your list and then retreated from it, mind telling me what you initially found scummy about his first two posts, and what changed your opinion later? On July 28 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote: Oh I missed that question earlier. I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore. I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases. I am actually leaning town on you now. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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Stutters695
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I don't think CJS is as firm town as you do. Now that we know it's Cora his vote on Oats is a lot weirder considering he should know how oats plays. Makes him pretty null. Wouldn't be surprised if he's scum but I have my sights set elsewhere right now. If he's town I think I know why he pushed it but I want to hear his answer so he doesn't just tell me what I want to hear. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I'm not saying he's confirmed for the rest of the game but you won't find me voting for him anytime soon. | ||
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