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On August 07 2013 10:46 hzflank wrote:
The big difference is when I played scum I did pushed a D1 wagon hard but then stopped short at the end so the guy did not get lynched. In this game as town I kept pushing so when he flipped green people thought I was more scum based on the flip.
Nah I didn't. As you said, scum stop pushing when the townie they're targeting might get lynched (usually).
If I remember it was some stuff from n1 and our very early interaction after my FT case in which you genuinely felt scared.
I didn't want to lynch you day 2 though, I wanted to lynch stutters.
Can't remember at what point that changed. Think it had to do with all the claims/fakeclaims etc.
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Thanks to Sentinel and jrkirby for hosting/cohosting this game and to all of you for playing, it was an interesting experience.
I think I'll leave the postgame analysis to someone else. Suffice it to say that fakeclaims are a risky business and that abusing other players typically isn't productive.
Doubt you'll see me again for a while, IRL just got more busy and I rather think I need a break from mafia.
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yo i heard you guys like lying as town and making pre-flip connections
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On August 07 2013 10:49 s0Lstice wrote:
yo i heard you guys like lying as town and making pre-flip connections
Pretty much
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how many games is this for you clarity?
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On August 07 2013 10:52 s0Lstice wrote:
how many games is this for you clarity?
like... 5th? I think I played a two newbie minis a normal mini and a heavily themed (chrono trigger)
That was all like in 2012 though.
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I would like to emphasize that percentages make you sound stupid.
1%
99%
100%
are all based on absolutely fucking nothing and aren't going to convince anyone of jackshit.
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@hz
Your play can be vastly improved if you cut down on all your association cases. You have to realize that scum will deliberately make it hard to find them by accusing one another. You can't ever say that, "these three are siding with each other and these three are siding with each other so one of them is the scumteam." More often than not, scum will disperse itself on both sides of the lynches to make it harder to associate themselves to one another.
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All in all, I think this is a great game to learn from and improve one's play, myself included. Look back on your mistakes and try to see where you went wrong. Get better, play harder.
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Yeah. I did look very closely at the arguments between Stutters and you to try to determine their authenticity, but I got it wrong.
I thought that you and Stutters were both individually scum at the end. But how could I vote for either of you when Koshi was being Koshi and Oats had a townslip on Tofu? Also, there was the greencheck on Cora :/
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I mean, how was I supposed to convince Oats that Tofu was scum? I felt that I almost needed to lynch Oats before Tofu, and Oats did look like scum to me.
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On August 07 2013 10:53 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 10:52 s0Lstice wrote:
how many games is this for you clarity? like... 5th? I think I played a two newbie minis a normal mini and a heavily themed (chrono trigger) That was all like in 2012 though.
oh cool. please keep playing 
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On August 07 2013 10:59 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 10:53 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 07 2013 10:52 s0Lstice wrote:
how many games is this for you clarity? like... 5th? I think I played a two newbie minis a normal mini and a heavily themed (chrono trigger) That was all like in 2012 though. oh cool. please keep playing
:o
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On August 07 2013 10:58 hzflank wrote:
Yeah. I did look very closely at the arguments between Stutters and you to try to determine their authenticity, but I got it wrong.
I thought that you and Stutters were both individually scum at the end. But how could I vote for either of you when Koshi was being Koshi and Oats had a townslip on Tofu? Also, there was the greencheck on Cora :/
Completely understandable. I feel your pain. I thought Koshi was scummy as hell the entire game. If I was town, I'd have pushed his lynch from the get-go.
He was too useful to us to justify lynching him as scum.
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lol sorry i meant that genuinely. it sounded snarky, not my intention
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And this game was so frustrating for me, I could not tell who was not trying and who was scum.
Vivax did not do much D1 but started to get good N1, then got nightkilled.
Vayne Did nothing but troll until D2, got good N2 and then got nightkilled.
Koshi just trolled and tunneled me even when he should not have.
I had no idea that Oats might be a doctor.
JAT was new and started bad, but he did actually get good from N3 onwards.
Exar made what I consider to be an unnecessary big play that totally changed the game.
The whole game just felt really hard for me. Rayn was useful when not drunk but he was unlocky with his night actions. Clarity was helpful but then got nightkilled.
I thought that Cora was with me due to the green check, but he was being useless and now I know why.
All in all it just seemed like a really hard game for me. I did try, but people hindered instead of helping.
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Dont be too hard on yourself hzflank, although when someone hard defends a scumread of yours, one of them probably isnt scum.
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GG guys.
I'm going to go fish for compliments out of the obs QT to make myself feel better and then comment about the rest of the game.
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On August 07 2013 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dont be too hard on yourself hzflank, although when someone hard defends a scumread of yours, one of them probably isnt scum.
Tbh that was an ego problem.
Because I knew I could not be night-killed, I thought the scum team would be worried if I had them all nailed. I thought that you were playing out of desperation to win before you had to nightkill Cora/Rayn.
I was too arrogant.
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Alright guys its 4 am (lol) I'm gonna curl up into bed and fall asleep to wcs america like a boss.
Am interested to hear your thoughts corazon, and would like to know if your "ragequit" was staged or not. It didn't feel like it so if it was you had me fooled.
hz, don't quit unless you really didn't enjoy the game itself, regardless of the outcome
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