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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
On August 07 2013 11:46 VayneAuthority wrote: People I feel bad for: yea and you wonder why you get no sympathy. rose-tinted glasses my friend.... I don't understand what you are saying... | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Titanic was an accurate title for this game. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 07 2013 11:39 hzflank wrote: To be fair, how much did association cases affect it? Exar was lynched for his fake-claim. You can call that a bad lynch but I never will. There is no good pro-town reason for making that fake-claim. I made a bit of an association case against Koshi but that is not why he was lynched. My case on Oats did not rely on association. My case on Tofu did not rely on association. The biggest association that I actually made that really hurt is was that Tofu and Stutters are not both scum. It made day 3 pretty unreadable combined with rayn spamming it up. I think you're just gonna need a notepad to scribble this stuff down instead of putting it in the thread. Then after xrz flips you can explain what associations you thought of and why in 1 condensed post. I was actually not too bothered at first at your association posts but they just kept coming. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Most unbelievable play I will probably ever witness was Day 2 lynch: We are on FT who is scum, but we are willing to change to Cora who is scum but out of the fucking blue a town fakeclaims as cop and says he has a red check on Malongo, we lynch Malongo who is scum. After that we forgot about FT/Cora/Malongo due to all the bullshit on Day 3. PS: imo I did get lynched because all these association cases hz. Entire day 3 was really bad for a towny me. I was mad after XRZ misslynch because it isn't too great to see your name called out to be scum for 48 hours with the only reason if XRZ is scum then Koshi is scum x% of the time but if XRZ is town Koshi is scum y% of the time... I could endure it if you were right about XRZ, but you weren't. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Looks like I have to give up my King of the Spammers title to rayn. Fakeclaiming is bad mmkay. Can anyone point me towards this townslip that came from scum or whatever it was? Seen it mentioned a few times, but didn't see it originally so no idea what you guys are talking about. Town are always going to have a hard time when the game is as spmammy as this one, really. Feels odd to say that :/ | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On August 07 2013 18:48 marvellosity wrote: Can anyone point me towards this townslip that came from scum or whatever it was? Seen it mentioned a few times, but didn't see it originally so no idea what you guys are talking about. I think the original post where Oats referred to it is here but I don't know what posts of FirmTofu he's referring to. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
You didn't lurk, but you forgot to use your medic ability night 1 and night 2. That shit is just unforgivable. I can't understand how something like that happens, sure, we all made mistakes inside the game, but not using such an important skill... Vivax would be alive for another 72 hours... | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 07 2013 19:32 Koshi wrote: You didn't lurk, but you forgot to use your medic ability night 1 and night 2. That shit is just unforgivable. I can't understand how something like that happens, sure, we all made mistakes inside the game, but not using such an important skill... Vivax would be alive for another 72 hours... So what do you suggest happen to me? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
lol nothing has to happen. It's just such a big mistake to not use your role. You do agree that you saving Vivax would change this game completely and in theory only better for town? We could still have easily lost but not typing a small message to the host because you forgot you were the medic is silly. I had an incredible bad game myself, so I am not saying this loss is your fault or anything like that. But it is a mistake that I seriously look down upon. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
After D2 i didn´t really case and played all in with XRZ as he should have not retracted from his claim. If i had knows Oats (or anyone) was another non-vet PR i would have lynched Corazon immediately. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Fact that we were lynching our townread is indeed /facepalm and a big part of my outrage towards hz. I should have defended Paper while going into the offense though. I will do that next games. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 07 2013 20:16 Koshi wrote: Well rayn, you were yelling "lynch Koshi" 10 times before you switched your style and start yelling "lynch FT" for the rest of the deadline. Why are you even surprised nobody followed you D1? Fact that we were lynching our townread is indeed /facepalm and a big part of my outrage towards hz. I should have defended Paper while going into the offense though. I will do that next games. I dunno if you have played in a game where there is a majority lynch, but you really need to push your cases or consolidate with proper reasoning if you are not. 3 wagons in 10v4 at the end of the day is a disaster and will never get mafia lynched. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 07 2013 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno if you have played in a game where there is a majority lynch, but you really need to push your cases or consolidate with proper reasoning if you are not. 3 wagons in 10v4 at the end of the day is a disaster and will never get mafia lynched. I dont agree though, I think day 1 is the most important to push a lynch through, but the days after that, it wasnt really that close to being a nolynch. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 07 2013 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno if you have played in a game where there is a majority lynch, but you really need to push your cases or consolidate with proper reasoning if you are not. 3 wagons in 10v4 at the end of the day is a disaster and will never get mafia lynched. Yeah, after I went after hz I should have switched to XRZ his scumread FT. I don't understand why I went Paper who was the wagon of my scumread. Shit doesn't make sense -_- | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 07 2013 20:30 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont agree though, I think day 1 is the most important to push a lynch through, but the days after that, it wasnt really that close to being a nolynch. Seriously? D2 there was a lynch ONLY because of what XRZ did. It was 30min to the deadline and everyone who would vote had their votes on someone. Votes were 5 on CJS, nobody else wanted to vote for him (and there was no case, i don´t blame people for that). There would absolutely have been a no-lynch if xrz had not claimed. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 07 2013 19:10 Aquanim wrote: I think the original post where Oats referred to it is here but I don't know what posts of FirmTofu he's referring to. This one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=20#398 and the ones following. Tricked me anyway, although I didn't use it throughout the game to defend him or anything. But it was enough for me to not pursue him day 1. On August 07 2013 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno if you have played in a game where there is a majority lynch, but you really need to push your cases or consolidate with proper reasoning if you are not. 3 wagons in 10v4 at the end of the day is a disaster and will never get mafia lynched. Unless the wagons are FT/Cora and Malongo. LOL I hear you though | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 08 2013 00:47 Stutters695 wrote: Yeah, there were a couple instances of "town slips" that I just went WTF, but wasn't going to question it. I would have never called someone town just for my reaction to Vayne claiming he had a red on Mal. If I'm scum with him and with how inactive/scummy he was the only acceptable action is to roll with it. I agree, and I gave your reaction to the claim no weight because of it. With FT however, it seemed genuine, and unless scum actively thinks something like this up and tries to make it seem genuine, scum would never do it naturally. So when it looks natural it looks like town. I hope that explanation makes sense. Like I said, that doesn't mean "ok well he's confirmed now ignore him for the rest of the game" but it made me not want to lynch him day 1. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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