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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
August 07 2013 00:26 GMT
#4861
Yeah, so much lying town this game...
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 07 2013 00:27 GMT
#4862
On August 07 2013 09:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:
It's hard to find scum on D1, I did the best I could and pushed it. I always said I was flexible, but I just did not see a better candidate. Loads of people thought I was scum which worried me a lot. But the fact is that I was scum-hunting from the get go and never stopped.


Even without the vet claim you started looking town d3
Even if a dayvig doesnt kill you it would still be a silly plan. When you're town, just trust that when you scumhunt you'll start looking town. People will figure it out.


yeah

I wasn't sure how many of Koshi, Malongo and JAT were scum. They already wanted to lynch me and people need to consolidate in majority vote. When so many other people started to say I might be scum N1 I thought it was a setup and I just wanted to stop it then and there.

At the time I did not know that we had no Vig or Doctor. Without a Vig or Doctor the Vet role would of gave us an extra lynch if I could of taken a shot instead.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 07 2013 00:29 GMT
#4863
On August 07 2013 09:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:
It's hard to find scum on D1, I did the best I could and pushed it. I always said I was flexible, but I just did not see a better candidate. Loads of people thought I was scum which worried me a lot. But the fact is that I was scum-hunting from the get go and never stopped.


Even without the vet claim you started looking town d3
Even if a dayvig doesnt kill you it would still be a silly plan. When you're town, just trust that when you scumhunt you'll start looking town. People will figure it out.

No, hz´s claim was really good and 100% town and people were idiots to not see it. He thinks he is scummy. It´s a fucking majority lynch. He knows he will not get shot in any near future. He does not want to derail the thread by people discussing if he is mafia (because he is not) so he eliminates a suspect for the town by claiming.
table for two on a tv tray
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 07 2013 00:29 GMT
#4864
This was the longest mini I've ever seen. Thanks for that rayn.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
August 07 2013 00:29 GMT
#4865
On August 07 2013 09:27 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 09:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 07 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:
It's hard to find scum on D1, I did the best I could and pushed it. I always said I was flexible, but I just did not see a better candidate. Loads of people thought I was scum which worried me a lot. But the fact is that I was scum-hunting from the get go and never stopped.


Even without the vet claim you started looking town d3
Even if a dayvig doesnt kill you it would still be a silly plan. When you're town, just trust that when you scumhunt you'll start looking town. People will figure it out.


yeah

I wasn't sure how many of Koshi, Malongo and JAT were scum. They already wanted to lynch me and people need to consolidate in majority vote. When so many other people started to say I might be scum N1 I thought it was a setup and I just wanted to stop it then and there.

At the time I did not know that we had no Vig or Doctor. Without a Vig or Doctor the Vet role would of gave us an extra lynch if I could of taken a shot instead.

Funny that you actually pushed one of the best D1 townies.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 07 2013 00:29 GMT
#4866
So why on earth did Malongo self-vote D2 when the only person with a vote on him was his scum-buddy?!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 07 2013 00:30 GMT
#4867
Everybody believed hz was town after that claim. Only after the XRZ lynch I was mad and started blaming rayn/hz again :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 07 2013 00:31 GMT
#4868
On August 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 09:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 07 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:
It's hard to find scum on D1, I did the best I could and pushed it. I always said I was flexible, but I just did not see a better candidate. Loads of people thought I was scum which worried me a lot. But the fact is that I was scum-hunting from the get go and never stopped.


Even without the vet claim you started looking town d3
Even if a dayvig doesnt kill you it would still be a silly plan. When you're town, just trust that when you scumhunt you'll start looking town. People will figure it out.

No, hz´s claim was really good and 100% town and people were idiots to not see it. He thinks he is scummy. It´s a fucking majority lynch. He knows he will not get shot in any near future. He does not want to derail the thread by people discussing if he is mafia (because he is not) so he eliminates a suspect for the town by claiming.


?

If there was a vigi and the vigi could shoot him without killing him and DID, that would be terrible for town.
Yeah, we confirm two people but then they both die the following nights.

If hz had done exactly what he did without the claim he would have drawn a shot at some point.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 07 2013 00:31 GMT
#4869
Because seriously. If i had not pushed lynches and XRZ had not done what he did on D2 we had ended up in a no-lynch every single day phase. People needed to consolidate on town reads because there were no candidates. wtf is that? People were pushing cases 1h before deadline "just to see who votes with them".

That´s incredibly anti-town play.
table for two on a tv tray
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
August 07 2013 00:31 GMT
#4870
On August 07 2013 09:29 hzflank wrote:
So why on earth did Malongo self-vote D2 when the only person with a vote on him was his scum-buddy?!

I was having time issues (I even asked for a replacement hours before vaynes fakeclaim). I just went full retard this game, really.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 07 2013 00:32 GMT
#4871
On August 07 2013 09:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2013 09:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 07 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:
It's hard to find scum on D1, I did the best I could and pushed it. I always said I was flexible, but I just did not see a better candidate. Loads of people thought I was scum which worried me a lot. But the fact is that I was scum-hunting from the get go and never stopped.


Even without the vet claim you started looking town d3
Even if a dayvig doesnt kill you it would still be a silly plan. When you're town, just trust that when you scumhunt you'll start looking town. People will figure it out.

No, hz´s claim was really good and 100% town and people were idiots to not see it. He thinks he is scummy. It´s a fucking majority lynch. He knows he will not get shot in any near future. He does not want to derail the thread by people discussing if he is mafia (because he is not) so he eliminates a suspect for the town by claiming.


?

If there was a vigi and the vigi could shoot him without killing him and DID, that would be terrible for town.
Yeah, we confirm two people but then they both die the following nights.

If hz had done exactly what he did without the claim he would have drawn a shot at some point.

He didn´t think that trough. That´s why i immediately said "noone shoot hz".
table for two on a tv tray
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 07 2013 00:32 GMT
#4872
i had to unclaim at some point. town thought cop was scum. i knew rayn was cop. cop thought i was scum. no other play here. hope u guys believe me. no other play.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 07 2013 00:33 GMT
#4873
On August 07 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because seriously. If i had not pushed lynches and XRZ had not done what he did on D2 we had ended up in a no-lynch every single day phase. People needed to consolidate on town reads because there were no candidates. wtf is that? People were pushing cases 1h before deadline "just to see who votes with them".

That´s incredibly anti-town play.

How the fuck is that true?
Day 1 we had a lot of people online and got lynch
Day 2 we would have had enough people online with VA/XRZ returning and lynched
Day 3 you pushed XRZ with 300 posts and we had a lynch 15 hours in the day.
Day 4 ... Look at how many of us are here :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 07 2013 00:33 GMT
#4874
So why are you saying it was such a good claim.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 07 2013 00:33 GMT
#4875
On N1 Koshi made some sort of case against me. I thought his point was terrible but because people thought I was scum they were not reading it properly. Then loads of people agreed with Koshi. It's hard to effectively scum hunt and play when people just assume that you are scum.

I admit my D1 was not great. I played scum the previous game and it took me a while to get out of the scum mindset.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 07 2013 00:33 GMT
#4876
On August 07 2013 09:32 exarezee wrote:
i had to unclaim at some point. town thought cop was scum. i knew rayn was cop. cop thought i was scum. no other play here. hope u guys believe me. no other play.

I will never get mislynched when i am town.
table for two on a tv tray
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 07 2013 00:34 GMT
#4877
On August 07 2013 09:32 exarezee wrote:
i had to unclaim at some point. town thought cop was scum. i knew rayn was cop. cop thought i was scum. no other play here. hope u guys believe me. no other play.


Totally, I understand why you had to un-claim. That's partially why I thought that you were scum. When you fake-claim cop like everyone will assume that the real cop is scum.

Sorry.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 07 2013 00:34 GMT
#4878
On August 07 2013 09:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
So why are you saying it was such a good claim.

Because it proved he was town and eliminated a suspect for ~7 people. The vigi thing he said was a mistake but no sane vig should have shot him immediately, or ever, because he was obviously town and vigis should not shoot town.
table for two on a tv tray
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 07 2013 00:36 GMT
#4879
I would also like to apologize for not being around more often. I tried my best, but IRL stuff got in the way a few times. I couldn't devote as much time to the game as I wanted to.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 07 2013 00:36 GMT
#4880
for the future you should not fakeclaim like that as town XRZ if you don't know what you're doing, really changed the outcome of the game with very little upside
I come in for the scraps
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