Titanic Mini Mafia! - Page 229

On July 30 2013 09:02 hzflank wrote:
If there is a Vig will you please just shoot me right now

I know that some of you will think that this is a terrible play. Considering the setup a day two mislych is likely to be really bad for town. If the NK has gone through then we need 7 to lynch. Three people have already said that want to lynch me today and at least two others think that I am scum.

People will probably think that I should just man up and play standard. However, I was the person who pushed hardest for the lynch on town on day one. There is going to be an attempt to lynch me today, and in order to thwart it I need to be a driving force in lynching someone else. If I do that and accidentally target town then I am going to have a really hard time defending myself on day 3 and scum will likely win. So sorry for being a pussy but I am making this play.

I am claiming Veteran. If we have a Vig and he can shoot me now then we will be confirmed town to each other. We will be confirmed same-alignment to the rest of the town and they should think that we are both likely town, especially if there is no second Vet or Vig.

Sorry if this is a terrible play, but I think that it has a reasonable chance of making it more likely for town to win the game. I could not wait until later in the day as I cannot risk the only Vig using his shot on someone else (if we even have a Vig).

If we don't have a Vig I realise that my Vet claim is not great. But to be honest, there would have to be a drastic change in the game for me to be a night kill target any time soon. I realise that I have put myself in a bad position for a Vet role, but if Paper flipped red then I thought I would be a good NK target. Also, you now know why my tone has been more aggressive than usual this game.

If it's worth anything my silly super soft-doctor claim during the night was an attempt to draw the night kill. I doubt that it will have worked.

If there is no Vig then take this as you will. It would probably be null to me but that's for you to decide.

On July 30 2013 04:00 VayneAuthority wrote:


contrived rubbish, gut says he is scum

On July 30 2013 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, you have a point in your logic regarding those people. I think exazeree looks really fucking awful with his latest contributions. I am not sure about Clarity, he looks like a really bright dude. Who was the third person, JAT? I'm not sure about him either, there were some townie things i pointed out to Oats i found out about him near the lynch. What do you think of them?

Also, flank looks like he has a fucking red stamp painted all over him if i ignore the Oats stuff he said. Should i ignore that? Koshi looks significantly better by his contributiond on N1. FT has disappeared and i think he is mafia.

Thoughts?

On July 30 2013 07:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't expect to die tonight, but here's a list anyway.

xrz: Slight town, his little "I figured it out" on day one with him thinking one of FT or Paper HAS to be scum (even if wrong) makes him town in my eyes.
You don't really see this logic from scum, let alone that he kept it up consistently throughout day 1. Also he's had a townread on me with GOOD REASONS for it.

FirmTofu: Ugh, really, I think he's town. Yes, it's mainly because of him going OMG FOUND A SCUMSLIP.

rayn: I think him jumping on Koshi a bit before lynchtime the way he did makes him lean town, regardless of what Paper flipped. His night 1 however makes me very wary.

Oats: Town, spammy oats who speaks his mind is town oats. Sadly he doesn't read the thread before speaking as either alignment.

CJS: He town yo.

Vayne: vigi this fuck, useless. The "day 1 is useless stuff" I can swallow but then going "I told you so" during n2 and still not explaining the shit he's spewing, useless or scum.

Malongo: I'm clueless about him now after learning about his meta.

Vivax: I mean, he's supposed to be playing good but he's pushing me. He also just kinda jumped on everything in the thread when I asked him for the case. Lot of effort to "win" though, leaning town.

Koshi: I really hated his useless lists day 1. Gets heavy pressure and does this:




I mean, who does that?

JAT: Dunno. If my two scumreads are correct I guess he's town?

hzflank: I kind of ignored my gut on day 1 when I had that interaction with him. He felt extremely afraid and he felt like I was targetting him despite me not doing anything close to that.
I think scum are more likely to have this kneejerk defensive response. All the other reasons have been beaten to death.
Yes he has this one part in this one post that looks townie but its less convincing that FirmTofu's thing.

Stutters: Leaning more and more scum on him. It's not about the short filter, I did look and yes, his meta is to not post that much especially day 1.
First, his constant references to his activity always being low, despite when people pressure him they don't mention his activity (except for vivax day 1)
His day 1 "case" on Vivax is pretty atrocious. Wanting to lynch CJS on day 1 because of his ragequit is dumb or scum. Night 1 he jumps on the FT bandwagon but decides he needs to have his own unique reasons (which always smells scummy to me)

My only problem is, obviously, currently hz is calling stutters scum. Doesn't mean they can't both be scum, but I think it makes it less likely.
Regardless, theres my list, Stutters is a good lynch tomorrow.

I'm going to bed nao, night night peoples.

On August 02 2013 05:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
nah exarzee went full retard there. Hz was trying to protect him from dying tonight but he's too dumb to realize it, just like his dumb last second claim

On August 03 2013 06:37 hzflank wrote:


Cora's last post before the day post.

Rayn is fake-cop scum. Clarity is town (scum have roleblocker). XRZ is cop. hzflank is null (make fake claim vet?).

I don't even need to tell you what I think about this.

On August 01 2013 09:25 hzflank wrote:


Well you are a heck of a long way behind Rayn, and Still a very long way behind Stutters.

After that I do not know. You are not confirmed town, though.

On August 02 2013 04:23 hzflank wrote:


Then you have no idea how to find scum. How the hell do you get strong town reads on those three people?

Vayne and GJS were right to vote for Mal early, but you need to look at their reasoning. heck, Vayne was not even voting for Mal because he thought that Mal was scum. As for you having a strong town read on Rayn...why are you so quick to believe that there are two cops in this game? Sure it is possible but it is not likely (there is no framer or miller).

CJS has barely been active and has spent the entire on N2 throwing useless shit at Rayn. Rayn has done a bunch of scummy stuff this game and all people are talking about is meta and things that do not even prove Rayn is scum.

You think Rayn is town and Clarity is scum? So you think that town has 2 cops and scum do not have a roleblocker? wtf.

On August 02 2013 22:43 hzflank wrote:
Also, if FT is scum the green check on Cora makes sense. FT (and Koshi and XRZ) were too willing to switch vote from FT to Cora. If FT scum then Koshi is probably scum too, but can get to that later.

I need to put a lot more thought into XRZ before I give a read on him.

On August 03 2013 05:04 hzflank wrote:
If Exar is not scum:

Oats
Clarity
CJS
Rayn
Stutters
hzflank
Koshi
Tofu
JAT
Exar

I am surprised that Koshi, Tofu and JAT do not think that Exar is likely scum.

On July 30 2013 09:02 hzflank wrote:
If there is a Vig will you please just shoot me right now

I know that some of you will think that this is a terrible play. Considering the setup a day two mislych is likely to be really bad for town. If the NK has gone through then we need 7 to lynch. Three people have already said that want to lynch me today and at least two others think that I am scum.

People will probably think that I should just man up and play standard. However, I was the person who pushed hardest for the lynch on town on day one. There is going to be an attempt to lynch me today, and in order to thwart it I need to be a driving force in lynching someone else. If I do that and accidentally target town then I am going to have a really hard time defending myself on day 3 and scum will likely win. So sorry for being a pussy but I am making this play.

I am claiming Veteran. If we have a Vig and he can shoot me now then we will be confirmed town to each other. We will be confirmed same-alignment to the rest of the town and they should think that we are both likely town, especially if there is no second Vet or Vig.

Sorry if this is a terrible play, but I think that it has a reasonable chance of making it more likely for town to win the game. I could not wait until later in the day as I cannot risk the only Vig using his shot on someone else (if we even have a Vig).

If we don't have a Vig I realise that my Vet claim is not great. But to be honest, there would have to be a drastic change in the game for me to be a night kill target any time soon. I realise that I have put myself in a bad position for a Vet role, but if Paper flipped red then I thought I would be a good NK target. Also, you now know why my tone has been more aggressive than usual this game.

If it's worth anything my silly super soft-doctor claim during the night was an attempt to draw the night kill. I doubt that it will have worked.

If there is no Vig then take this as you will. It would probably be null to me but that's for you to decide.

On July 30 2013 10:43 hzflank wrote:
From my PoV this is also solid town:



Scum would of laughed their asses off if a Vig had killed me.

On August 06 2013 22:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
wait, explain why hzflank would fakeclaim vet in the first place as scum?

On August 06 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:

Look, there were multiple people thinking he was scum, he knew that all those people were town so he panicked a bit during the night. Look at how it worked out. Perfect?
Is it normal that town has a vet compared to a roleblocker?

Hz knew already that they had a roleblocker. So he can think that there are 2 roles he should be blocking, so that a veteran is unlikely. Let's say that scum only has RB + 3 goons. hz also knew that they had only 1 kp. I am thinking that with scum extra information he knew he could claim vet. So the only problem might have been a vigi but Stutters made sure that the vigi wouldn't shoot him.

On August 06 2013 23:04 Koshi wrote:
D:

But scum has been hunting after that fact. That there are 2 roles. So it does make sense that scum knows that hz is not a blue role?