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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
The main reason I was holind back this case is because I needed to find out whether or not your vote on Stutters D4 was trap or not. But you said it was not, so I think that you are scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:38 hzflank wrote: Okay Oats, care to refute the point on how Malongo's selt vote made you move your vote from Koshi to Exar? The main reason I was holind back this case is because I needed to find out whether or not your vote on Stutters D4 was trap or not. But you said it was not, so I think that you are scum. Oats and Stutters are both mafia. no need to try. Just vote for stutters. FT is also scum. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats and Stutters are both mafia. no need to try. Just vote for stutters. FT is also scum. So Koshi is town? I think you are drunk Rayn, and partially wrong. I think that either Stutters or FT is town. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:31 hzflank wrote: Why Oats is scum Oats has been town-hunting instead of scum-hunting Town players should scum-hunt. Oats' mission objective this game has instead been to confirm enough people as town so that the remaining players must be scum. In particular, Oats was not actually trying to hard-confirm people as town, but rather get a whole bunch of town reads. so all the people I said "x is scum" Is not scumhunting? You pointed out 1 post which I say I have strong townreads. I never mention it while Im pushing dudes otherwise. 1 post does not mean all im doing is townhunting. Come on. Oats votes for Stutters D4 Oats has been calling Koshi scum for most of the game. He was the first to vote for Koshi D2 after calling Koshi scum multiple times. Then Malongo suddenly self-votes and some people move from Koshi to Malongo. Oats moves from Koshi to Exar. Malongo self votes. People unvote Koshi. Oats never moves his vote to Malongo. Even though Oats had Exar as town based on the earlier list, and Oats had Stutters/rayn/malongo/koshi as scum. For some reason, when one of Oats' scum reads self-voted, Oats moved his vote from his other scum-read to his town-read. 1. I made a case based on malongo's reaction to the check. Totally scum. I cant remember if I voted for him then, but im pretty sure I did. 2. Self voting is done by both Town and Scum and I didnt know which one it was. So I voted for my stronger scumread. On D3, once I pointed out that I did not think a town-Oats would want to vote for Exar, Oats moved his vote to Koshi (Cora was already on Koshi) and left it there. He never actually tried to push the Koshi lynch on D3, though. yeah I didnt. why? Because the whole thing was about XRZ and his shit. When i decided that he was town, I needed to sleep. So no explanation no nothing. Additionally, Oats thinks that Koshi is scum, right? Then why ie hs trying to save him D4? Im trying to get info into the thread. Is that a bad thing? I dont want to be wrong, and the more a player posts, the easier it is to read him. Oats has scum team variations Remember how Oats' objective has been getting town reads and finding scum by process of elimination? Well, he had so many town-reads that JAT had to become scum. But since then he has someone managed to find scum team variations amongst his mass of town-reads. Oats' entire play has lead to what should be one possible scum-team. He should not have variations. Variations meaning stutters/koshi/JAT stutters/koshi/CJS stutters/JAT/CJS so I shouldnt have variations? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
##Vote: Stutters | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats, why does my case on Stutters want you to lynch KOSHI?? + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi: D1: - Has a FirmTofu as townread because "in every game FirmTofu is capable of looking scummy early on". This makes no sense because if he looks scummy as town, there is no guarantee he would look scummy as mafia too. - Has Paperscraps as town read for no reason. - For same reasons that makes FirmTofu town (meta), Koshi says there is no guarantee for vayne to be town. He even explains why the situation is 100% like with FirmTofu. There is a contradiction in his thinking toward vayne/FT. One of them can be town by meta and another one can´t. - Koshi says he thinks hzflank is mafia for tunneling one dude for the entire day. The thing that makes hzflank mafia is that "mafia can hide behind tunneling so that they would not have to have reads on everyone". Koshi´s reads are at this point are "hzflank, gut-read leaning scum, everyone else null or town for no reasoning or bad reasoning (FT)". Another contradicting statement right there. He is playing just like he says scum would play. - Another set of posts where he accuses hzflank of only pushing his own wagon and not trying to find other mafia dudes. He is doing exactly the same thing, but he isn´t even trying to push the hz lynch. To me when Koshi interacts with hz it looks like he is interacting with a townie rather than scum. - After everything he consolidates on Paperscraps, his townread. He has not tried to push any other lynch, did not contribute towards any other wagons, was not pushing hz lynch at all. Basically did nothing to even try lynching mafia on D1. N1: - Koshi says Vivax´ vote switch is okay. I did not think that was okay at all unless he was pretty sure Paper was town. Koshi himself says " I knew he was town, and some others new he was town in the end. We didn't have the balls to remove our vote because we would get lynched by people like rayn". lol, at the end of the day HE WAS PUSHING PAPER LYNCH, HE WAS SURE PAPER WAS TOWN, HE DIDN´T HAVE BALLS TO NOT VOTE FOR HIS TOWNREAD!?!?!? Fear, insecurity, justification for a vote after townflip. Townies do not think like this. - Says he will not be tunneling hzflank on D2, because he is ssure the guy is mafia. Makes sense? Does... not... want.. to.. do.. his.. best.. to.. lynch.. his.. scum.. read... right! - "Clarity makes posts about everybody, goes in contact with everybody and is speaking his mind. You know that I like that. So Clarity is town. I expect him to create a lot of content Day 2 as well. I can reevaluate but he is town for me. " Clarity is town for exact same reasons why i am scum for Koshi. When i ask for him to elaborate, his answer is "it was a joke". D2: - On D2 start Koshi quotes his case on hzflank, some time later he votes for XRZ, no reasoning given. On N1 he said "XRZ fears no lynching from me". - Suddenly Oats and XRZ are in his scumreads, read the last point, that was also what he said earlier regarding Oats. - Adds Stutters in the scumlist because Stutters voted for Malongo when vayne´s check came out. - Exactly 3 hours later Stutters is confirmed town.. - FirmTofu is confirmed town. When asked for reasoning he tells people to compare FT/XRZ filters. Noone even asked anything about XRZ? - Adds JAT to his scumlist, for reasons that made him town earlier (being new, suddenly he is not new any more for some reason)? - Says this about JAT: "There is also the fact you also pop up when you are attacked, but blend away when the heat is off you" and "Your scumhunting hasn't been too extensive so far.". I do not think this is true, i think this is extremely true if you compare this to Koshi´s play however. - Again Stutters becomes mafia. Note that this read has changed three times for Koshi, and all the reasons for the read are from D1. Makes zero sense. - Koshi tells me that he really needs a red flip on D2. After this he votes for JAT, givves no real reasoning nor follows the vote up on any way. - After this changes his vote onto Stutters. Same resoning and follow up as above. - After this he consolidates on to FirmTofu -> CJS -> FT (both are his town reads). Remember, he "badly needed a red flip!!!" N2: - Nothing much to say here, calls XRZ town. D3: - Sheeps me onto XRZ. - "That combined with the fact hz and rayn are confirmed town and they want this lynch." After that: - I am pretty sure everyone remembers what Koshi has done after that. Now how on earth does any of this stuff make sense?? I know how, Koshi is mafia! I have no idea what case on stutters you are talking about, I was talking about the spoilered post. | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
You voted Koshi. Koshi got 5 votes Malongo self voted. Two people unvoted Koshi and voted for Malongo. Then you unvoted Koshi and voted for Exar. Why? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:38 hzflank wrote: Okay Oats, care to refute the point on how Malongo's selt vote made you move your vote from Koshi to Exar? The main reason I was holind back this case is because I needed to find out whether or not your vote on Stutters D4 was trap or not. But you said it was not, so I think that you are scum. do you mean why I didnt want to vote for Malongo? The reason for that is because I wasnt as sure about Malongo as koshi. I moved my vote cause I decided that Vivax was right. They are not connected incidents hzflank. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:44 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: Oats is town. You guys are dumb. We will lynch Koshi today. But look at JAT's N3 and D4 play. You seem to be assuming that he is scum without seeing that he is trying to win for town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
##Vote: Koshi shh Cora :D | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: oats busses, him, stutters and koshi are mafia. Well you need to pick one of them to lynch, and Koshi is the safest bet. Am I right? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: oats busses, him, stutters and koshi are mafia. I like seeing my name a lot, but you're crazy. | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:46 hzflank wrote: We will lynch Koshi today. But look at JAT's N3 and D4 play. You seem to be assuming that he is scum without seeing that he is trying to win for town. If we lynch Koshi I will be open to listening to you guys. But after the past 2 days (where none of you listened to me and we lynched scum and then pull off the worst lynch ever), you guys need to listen to me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Oats and stutters are another mafs. see what i told about stutters and see how oats reacted. gg. | ||
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