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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
FT is going to be town. Rayn is going to be town. But lol. just lol. Stutters is going to be scum, hiding in this game only to come out to trow some shit at FT and validate his vote on XRZ. JAT is going to be scum. Tofu case is pretty good. On top of that this guy keeps promising making cases but never does. Probably afraid after those 2 horrible first cases he posted. hz is going to be the mastermind. well played by him. but I could have caught you if I didn't fuck up in the start. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
also hz is going to be the mastermind. well played by him. but I could have caught you if I didn't fuck up in the start. if he's scum, didnt you catch him? What are you even saying in that paragraph? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
The only problem I have with Cora is his change in opinion about FT. I don't see where that happened. In the early game he was defending FT and didn't say he was scum, even in the Malongo lynch Cora was still believing that FT was town. But Cora has always found me scummy. So him voting me is normal, hell, it might even be why he thinks FT is scummy now. Cora believed that Malongo was scum after his case, he didn't want to go for FT and sticked to that. Same with XRZ. Both times he was right (I am saying FT is town) and Cora should not been seen as scum for being right. On August 05 2013 00:58 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: I just stated my "scumteam"... Koshi/JAT/Stutters/Malongo That's actually a perfect scumteam. Maybe he is the scumleader and just named his fellow 3 scummies and is going to push me for the win, but I don't think that is true. Maybe the defense of XRZ was done to make this post On August 05 2013 10:34 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: Really guys...after the XRZ flip are you NOT going to listen to me? Come on. But I still don't think so. Look, if we can lynch JAT/Stutters first and then we got to pick between Cora/hz/Koshi then I am still going for hz. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 05 2013 20:07 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you mean by 'going to be'? also if he's scum, didnt you catch him? What are you even saying in that paragraph? I am going to get lynched and the game is over. That's what I am saying. I am already searching the scumteam for endgame cred. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 05 2013 20:14 Koshi wrote: I am going to get lynched and the game is over. That's what I am saying. I am already searching the scumteam for endgame cred. what. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
2 towns + 3 scums = bye Koshi. On top of that FT will consolidate on me if it is 4/3 because I was magically able to convince either rayn/cora... lol it's over. Rayn wont like it that I am using "fear" as a motivator for not voting me but I know we are going to lose and it's sad. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On top of that FT will consolidate on me if it is 4/3 in case I was magically able to convince either rayn/cora... | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
me/ft/you are willing to vote for him. Probably Rayn and CJS too. if they are both town. So thats 5 people  | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On August 05 2013 16:52 FirmTofu wrote: Posting Style: A laid-back, "Lynch anyone who suspects me" style of play. His first strong scumread was me and he gave no justification for it. It looks to me like he wants me dead for the sole reason that I think he's scum. OMGUS at its finest. He just sheeped general thread sentiment and casually prodded me when I wasn't making a case on him. I don't see the usual enthusiasm that is so characteristic of most townies. Almost all of his posts are focused on defending himself rather than pursuing lynches. My first strong scumread was hzflank, not you. And this never was thread sentiment. Sure I prodded you because you never ever explained your scumread on me while it was one of your strongest reads. Why should I not? This makes you scum not me. If someone does OMGUS this game it is you with your scumread on rayn. Also you are using some kind of reverse OMGUS when you consider people who have you as town town all game long. Starting with me and proceeding with people like Koshi atm. Of course I defended myself when I was accused. If I can refute a point I should do this because otherwise town wastes time looking into this and doesn't hunt for scum. Also, when I'm at work (like right now) it is easier for me to defend myself than to post big cases on other players because it takes much less time (I don't have to filterdive or think a long time about what I'm going to say in order to defend myself). On August 05 2013 16:52 FirmTofu wrote: Stuff I Don't Like: + Show Spoiler + On July 28 2013 20:43 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, my read on you was justifiable at that point but where do you see a lot of posts that would indicate this? Sounds weird to me. I would love to lynch VA for his attitude towards the game but if he always plays like this then there is nothing about him that indicates any alignment. But I would like to know why Vayne thinks Oats voting Tofu is good? Also I'm still not content with Koshis explanation of his reads. So you actually don't have any scumread anymore besides the troll and the lurkers? For now I still think Paper is a good lynch. His reads do not impress me. What? Please explain this. I don't know if we read the posts of the same person... Yeah, that's because you both don't have any real scumreads.... or do you really think Vivax is scum? Or that I am? ##Vote: Paperscraps 1)Quotes random parts of Paperscraps' post and asks him to explain. He doesn't specify what exactly he wants PS to explain, he just says, "explain". To me, this looks like a classic case of scum trying to pretend to be active and questioning without asking anything of actual substance. On July 31 2013 07:45 justanothertownie wrote: Interesting. Now you suddenly think I'm scummy without any new information? Suddenly you don't believe I'm new anymore and the posts you use to prove it were available to you way earlier when you actively defended me and said I'm town. WTF. Are you serious? That's the best you could come up with? And yes I'm aware of the fact I didn't follow through with my hz/tofu case. That's because it was not up to date anymore and I would have needed to add the new information gained by all the claims and reactions tonight. When I tried to put it together I started to become unsure and waited and since my conversation with hz earlier I'm seriously doubting my read on him. The case was a mix of hz/tofu with a lot of connection between them and if I doubt the hz part of it I can't justificate the whole case as it is. Therefore I didn't post it. Btw. like I said to oats before - do you want prove I'm new? I can give it to you easily. 2)The first part of this post aims to ridicule someone for their case against them. JAT dodges the case without putting out any actual substantive defense. The second part of this post is an excuse made to justify the lack of follow-up on the case he promised to make. Bad all around. On August 01 2013 00:02 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, I read xrzs filter. I'm leaning town on him. Many things he say make sense. If he is scum he is hiding this really good. For now the best lynch is koshi in my eyes. ##Vote: Koshi I will be at a meeting from now on and not be able to follow the game or post. I will be back before the deadline (I hope several hours before). 3) This post was made when the XRZ lynch was gaining a little bit of steam on Day 2. JAT supposedly had me pegged as scum during this time. He previously made a few arguments against Koshi, but nothing too significant. If he really thought I was scum, why didn't he vote me? Did he fear backlash? What exactly prompted him to vote Koshi instead of me? On August 02 2013 05:18 justanothertownie wrote: I'm not afraid of dying because there are several much better targets to kill for scum not because I'm new. Who I think is scum depends partly on the nightkill but I didn't like oats posting today and I still think Tofu is scummy. I also did not like CJS posting yesterday even though he was right on malongo but I'm not sure about him. I guess after the nightkill I should have a better understand of what's going on. 4) He keeps using his "noobiness" as an excuse to justify things. In this post, he is saying he won't be killed because he's a noob. In other posts, JAT says people think he's scummy because he's new. He's using it as a fall back option to get himself out of the limelight. 1) Did you even read the post? I asked him to explain his read on oats how could I be more specific in this case? His read consists of 2 sentences of general praise for oats without any reasoning. 2) Koshis case was ridiculous why shouldn't I ridicule it? Maybe you could point me to the part you think I didn't adress because to me it looks like his sole point was that he suddenly thought I was not a new player. Add to this that he thought I was town earlier with the same information about me available to him. Then he starts to get heat and 180s on me without any reason like he does now on some other reads. He just accuses anyone he thinks could be lynched over him (apart from you conveniently) disregarding his previous stance on them and that's not a town trait btw. 3) At the moment I voted there were quite a few people on Koshi and he was more likely to be lynched than you. I thought you both were scum and voted for who I thought would more likely be lynched. 4) Stop twisting my words, will you? What I say in this quote is exactly the opposite of what you make of it. I say I won't be killed because there are far better targets. I will NOT be killed because I'm new. I don't keep using my noobiness as an excuse in fact I stated several times that people should NOT consider me being a newbie when thinking about my play. You are obviously getting desperate finding arguments for me to be scum. To the scumslip thing: On August 05 2013 16:52 FirmTofu wrote: Why is this a scumslip? JAT just said he was town because he jumped on the Malongo lynch. Okay, that's fine. So he should think that everyone who jumped on the Malongo lynch is town, right? WRONG. Both hz and I were on the Malongo lynch and JAT still had us as his top scumreads. There is absolutely no reason why a townie would hold this blatantly contradictory position. I already refuted this numerous times but I will do it again just for you Tofu. Yes, I made a logical mistake when I stated this but making logical mistakes is not exclusive to scum. I didn't consider the point I wrote to defend myself while stating that you were still my scumreads because I posted hastily and didn't think it through very well. If I would have thought it through I would have come to the conclusion that it doesn't make anyone town or scum to react on this claim like we did. If I was scum I probably wouldn't have posted anything at the time I did. You seem to be the only person who considers this a scumslip and you only do because it was the only thing you thought you had against me for a long, long time. You are really desperately trying to paint me scum to rescue yourself/your scumbuddy koshi and to end the game with a mislynch on me. | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
1) You are fucking lying! You said Paper his reads weren't good and you asked more information on 3 different town reads (vayne, Koshi, Oats) off him. You sticked your vote on Paper for this reason and ever took it off. This looked like a pressure vote but you actaully never pressured him beyond this point. 2) Koshi just realized here that his play was fucking awful up until this point. Getting heat was the reason for me to actually filter dive you and see that people were right to call you scummy. You indeed just ad homined me and just like that time you are again not defending the points against yourself but just stating I am scum/FT is scum. ezpz 3) meh, I can see this being true. 4) I don't really remember why you actually made that post. Of course you weren't going to die. Did somebody claim that? How come that you make so many posts promising things in the future? Here you say that your ideas will be influanced by the nightkill, in other posts you promise cases, but in the end you never deliver. Saying that "if I was scum I wouldn't have done that" is an extremely bad excuse. You always make posts that you prefered you didn't make as town/scum/3rd party. Especially as an anti town party you are going to say I wouldn't have done that because you know what you should have done in that anti town mindsset. You are scum JAT. Stop defending and start making cases on me / Tofu. You haven't done any scumhunting in the past 100 hours. It's pathetic that I will get lynched over somebody like you. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On August 05 2013 21:51 Koshi wrote: Your first scumread was Paper. You made 1 offensive case this game and that was it. You sticked your vote permantly on him. You are right that you had FT as town for the entire game. Your second post was saying you thought FT was town. I said strong scumread for a reason. Of course Paper was my first scumread. I voted him because I didn't think anyone was scummier Day1 but it wasn't a very strong read - how could it be Day1? Also this part of your post is prove that you did not even read my filter. I had FT as town for the entire game? Riiiight. And no I did not say that. I had Tofu scum since before Vivax was killed. I had Tofu as town Day1 and Day1 only. 1) The only read I just asked him to explain is the oats read. Learn to read ffs. Sure I asked questions regarding other stuff but Tofus point was that I just said explain without saying what i specifically want to be explained. 2) Ok, so Tofu states I am only defending myself. You claim I don't defend myself. Makes sense. If you want me to adress any specific point feel free to point me to it. The only problem is there isn't a good point because your case was full of shit. 3) meh, I can't see you being town. 4) I explained why I did not follow up on the hz/tofu case. If you are to lazy to read my filter that's not my problem. If you think there are any other promises I made and didn't follow name them. "if I was scum I wouldn't have done that" Yes, that is a bad excuse. That's why it isn't my main excuse and I just added it at the end. The only thing pathetic is your sudden Tofu/Koshi bromance without any town reason for it. I won't have 30 consecutive minutes to play for a looong time today. If you want to ask me something just do it and don't blame me for actually having to work. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Do you like hzflank? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Small question: Why would I bother buddying both Malongo and FirmTofu as scumteam? I could understand FirmTofu because our asses are on the line atm (lol) but why do it with Malongo? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
When did you put FT as a scumread. Why? | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On August 05 2013 19:55 Koshi wrote: There is really not much I can say. FT is going to be town. Rayn is going to be town. But lol. just lol. Stutters is going to be scum, hiding in this game only to come out to trow some shit at FT and validate his vote on XRZ. JAT is going to be scum. Tofu case is pretty good. On top of that this guy keeps promising making cases but never does. Probably afraid after those 2 horrible first cases he posted. hz is going to be the mastermind. well played by him. but I could have caught you if I didn't fuck up in the start. Nah dawg, FT, you and JAT. In that order. Also, I don't "hide" as scum, my posting is pretty standard regardless of alignment. Just depends on how busy I am. | ||
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