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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 03 2013 13:30 GMT
#3801
bah, wrong thread.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 03 2013 14:24 GMT
#3802
On August 03 2013 21:40 Koshi wrote:
Some reasons why I am not scum:
1) I do not get emotionally attached who gets lynched. However, you can see in the newbie game I played here and this game that I am pushing my suspect hard.
2) I am hiding, playing on emotions to keep myself from getting lynched as anti-town, if I get suspicion as anti-town it is mostly due to bad play rather than flamboyant play.

Obviously I shake up my playstyle so that I am hard to read. My day 1 was an extremer form of I swear 2. If you want to know why I am playing like this, it is to see how far I can take it before you get lynched in case I roll a blue role in a game.

But this game was an eye opener and I think I will play future games a bit more afk and in the shadows till my reads get a lot better.

But for now. Let's catch them scummies!

bullshit.
Who wants to play less townie and more scummy as both alignments?

Bullshit.

No gg, No skill.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:24 GMT
#3803
Rayn, How sure are you that Oats is town?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:25 GMT
#3804
Basically, if Oats is town it makes a lot of sense for him to not want to vote for Exar. Same for Cora.

You think that Oats is town and you have a green check on Cora?

On the other hand it makes little sense for Tofu to be voting for Exar. Tofu does not buy insurance, Tofu buys lottery tickets.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:26 GMT
#3805
I mean, if I was 100% sure that Cora and Oats were town then I would not be voting for Exar today. The problem I have is that I just don't know the alignment of Cora and Oats.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 03 2013 14:28 GMT
#3806
On August 03 2013 23:25 hzflank wrote:
Basically, if Oats is town it makes a lot of sense for him to not want to vote for Exar. Same for Cora.

You think that Oats is town and you have a green check on Cora?

On the other hand it makes little sense for Tofu to be voting for Exar. Tofu does not buy insurance, Tofu buys lottery tickets.

so if im town I dont want to vote for XRZ? why?
No gg, No skill.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 03 2013 14:31 GMT
#3807
On August 03 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are however right about Koshi being pretty likely mafia. The dude is not bad, hell he just won a big game as SK, and whenever someone calls his bad posts out he goes into insta-defense mode and calls himself bad.

FirmTofu is still really really scummy. His D3 posts make no sense from town pov. He´s basically not thinking about the game from town pov at all, can´t understand why the setup stuff is pretty obvious and makes very odd conclusions about things.

I still think XRZ is most likely to be mafia because of stuff i have said and he is now suddenly willing to throw the game for himself if he is town. If he flips town however that´s not good play from him on D3, at all. It´s terrible.

If that´s the case however JAT has to be the third mafia with Koshi + FT.

I can't find any logical errors in this post at the moment. That means xrz pretty much has to be scum because I'm town.
Will think about it some more.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 03 2013 14:32 GMT
#3808
On August 03 2013 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And there you do that again. It´s really hard to believe you are town Koshi. Your last posts are again explaining why you are not mafia and you are not trying to find mafia at all. You are not gonna get lynched today, why are you so eager to defend yourself when there is scum to catch. Hell, you say that yourself at the end of your post and you don´t do anything to accomplish that.

Who do you think is mafia?

The best thing I can do for town at this moment is proving I am not scum. Sure, I am trying to not get lynched, but that hasn't been my sole goal for this entire game.

As you can read in my filter. I have gave my opinion on who the last scums might be. It is based a lot on your and hzflank his ideas, but when you got 2 confirmed townies in your game that are also the leaders in scumhunting, I believe that it is smart to just assist them. As you can see I was the first to say that the case from Hzflqnk might have been wrong. That xrz probably meant that he didnt check clarity because there would be another RB.
I commented on your case and concluded that it is likely XRZ is scum.
I also looked at the counter evidence from stutters and I agreed that this whole situation with unclaiming cop is rather bad scumplay. There were much better solutions.
On top off that remember that I made a case on him before the Malongo lynch. I read XRZ his filter and his play looked town after all with the red check, but without it looks really bad.

Scum xrz is a fast thinker, his redirection to Malongo proves that it could work perfect for scum, but in his interaction with you he was way too confident and his fast handling costed his team possible the game.

Town XRZ has balls of steel with insane deduction skills. Him now conceding the game is very strange.


I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:36 GMT
#3809
On August 03 2013 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 23:25 hzflank wrote:
Basically, if Oats is town it makes a lot of sense for him to not want to vote for Exar. Same for Cora.

You think that Oats is town and you have a green check on Cora?

On the other hand it makes little sense for Tofu to be voting for Exar. Tofu does not buy insurance, Tofu buys lottery tickets.

so if im town I dont want to vote for XRZ? why?


No, the other way around. From your position I would not want to vote for xrz if you are town. So you could say that your play is making sense for me from a town point of view.

Tofu looks really scummy. His contributions on day 3 look really bad to me.

I can see a possible way that Exar could of made that play as town. It was a mistake (imo) to claim cop on D2, but town do make mistakes often. Exar's un-claim on D3 makes a lot more sense as town than scum if people do not agree with my previous case.

My big worry with a Tofu lynch is that if we lynch him and he flips town then we are in a worse position than if Exar flips town. If I knew that you were town then I think we have a better chance at victory if we lynch Tofu today. If I know that you and Cora are both town then lynching Exar today looks like a really bad move, and lynching Tofu much better.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 03 2013 14:37 GMT
#3810
On August 03 2013 23:32 Koshi wrote:

The best thing I can do for town at this moment is proving I am not scum. Sure, I am trying to not get lynched, but that hasn't been my sole goal for this entire game.




At the moment I would assume the best thing to do would be to prove someone else is scum if possible as you are not the lynch candidate.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 03 2013 14:38 GMT
#3811
On August 03 2013 23:24 hzflank wrote:
Rayn, How sure are you that Oats is town?

Basically 100%.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 03 2013 14:39 GMT
#3812
On August 03 2013 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 23:32 Koshi wrote:

The best thing I can do for town at this moment is proving I am not scum. Sure, I am trying to not get lynched, but that hasn't been my sole goal for this entire game.




At the moment I would assume the best thing to do would be to prove someone else is scum if possible as you are not the lynch candidate.

Yes, that's exactly what I have been doing D3 and in my latest post. The part that you cut off...
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 03 2013 14:42 GMT
#3813
The problem is that i am not sure about Clarity and CJS, and the game becomes pretty easy if i can trust those two guys. I will never forgive myself if the remaining scum is XRZ/Clarity/CJS and i let go of this XRZ lynch today because i really really really think that dude is scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 03 2013 14:43 GMT
#3814
I dont understand why me wanting to lynch XRZ is a bad play if im town.
No gg, No skill.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:48 GMT
#3815
Okay, so lets say we lynch Tofu today and he flips town:

Xrz, Cora and Clarity are highly likely to be of the same alignment, but we do not know which alignment. We wont have any mislynches left to find out.

The only other players left are Oats, Koshi, Stutters and JAT. If Oats is town then there are only two possible 3 man scum teams and it is much easier to work out which is correct. If Oats is scum then there are a lot of possible scum teams and it is really hard to work out which is correct when we are at MYLO.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:49 GMT
#3816
Basically, if Oats is town there is much less risk in going for a Tofu lynch than if Oats can be scum.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:50 GMT
#3817
You can swap tofu and Koshi in that and it still holds true.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 03 2013 14:53 GMT
#3818
I don't see how anyone could think Stutters, Tofu and me are the scum them.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 03 2013 14:53 GMT
#3819
EBWOP: team* not them
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 03 2013 14:54 GMT
#3820
On August 03 2013 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't see how anyone could think Stutters, Tofu and me are the scum them.


That was all assuming that we mislynch today, we might not.
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