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On July 31 2013 17:42 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 17:40 Koshi wrote:
Why are so many of you of the opinion that Malongo, FT and me are scum... ask yourself
It's based on a shitton of associations. Look at XRZ his post about it.
On July 31 2013 04:28 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Koshi, FT and Malongo are scum. I am starting to lean on scum on Cora.
What do you guys think? my scum team is koshi, ft,malongo, clarity.
On July 31 2013 04:30 exarezee wrote:
if koshi flips scum, i'm autovoting mal the next day. if mal flips scum, i'm autovoting tofu. then i have a dilemma.
if koshi flips town, i probably just concede the game and blame it on koshi.
This is just fucking bad townplay and too many of you are thinking like it. Snap out of it!
I will be telling you people for another 16 hours, I am town. So when I flip, partially blame yourself.
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How about for the next 16 hours you take a good long look at the game, and you tell us who you think is scum and why.
Screaming "I am town" for 16 hours does nothing for us, we'll know soon enough WHEN YOU DIE
Or you know, you might blow us away.
Off ya go
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I already did? I think JAT and XRZ have a very good chance to flip scum.
JAT would be a really good lynch for today.
As 3rd and 4th I could see Stutters and Rayn now.
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Oh okay, so you're done then. Good night sweet prince
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btw malongo is totally town, shit like that just doesnt happen as scum.
Be back later
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oh and before I go Koshi, it's not that you've played bad, it's that you've done so intentionally.
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On July 31 2013 17:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
oh and before I go Koshi, it's not that you've played bad, it's that you've done so intentionally.
I realize that. But here am I apologizing to town and try to salvage me playing bad.
I don't think that I am the first guy to have intentionally played bad for 48 hours.
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On July 31 2013 12:16 FirmTofu wrote:
My Response: Yes, if I think someone is scum, I'm going to try and throw all the dirt I have and pursue that lynch with fervor. That's what I do as town.
So, would you kindly post your case on me then?
Also, if rayne tried to direct the lynch into paper/you/me why would he start tunneling koshi so hard? Not saying you are wrong but at the moment I don't see a good reason for rayne to do so.
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justanothertownie. Where are you standing atm?
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You haven't done much scumhunting on Day 2. It's close to impossible to know where you stand.
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Where I am standing right now:
I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.
If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second.
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Damned this isn't moving forward.
Just understand that it is stupid to say that Malongo, FT and me are connected and that you solved the damn game. FT is looking town 24/7, a lynch on JAT will prove that further, as I will be very surprised if he flips green. But even preflip his voting behaviour is really good, so is his play.
Malongo is town, fuck it guys, remove all the stupidity and his play is green, unlike me this guy did not clusterfuck the thread. Read my previous post about Malongo to see he is town.
My play is pretty red, because I did clusterfuck and took a lot of time away from town to do useful things. On top of that my scumbuddies could buss me really really easy if I just went afk after the trolling.
People like rayn, XRZ are being extremely tunneled if they believe FT is scum, and if they do, they should never link that to Malango or me. Or the other way around... It's too easy. Way too easy and both these players know better.
Let's take a look at these posts:
On July 31 2013 04:22 exarezee wrote:
I mean this discussion is off topic. But what else is there to talk about? Lynch koshi+malongo. See who dies, try to figure more stuff out. I highly doubt anybody is going to convince me not to vote koshi today and malongo tomorrow.
On July 31 2013 04:27 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 04:23 hzflank wrote:
There is lots to talk about...we just have to find it first. if you have not done so yet read pages 77-80 a few times. I mean, we're like all in agreement that koshi and malongo need to go. We're going to be speculating so far down the road that I just don't feel like it's worth it. I've already got a scum team in mind that i can post arguments for if koshi and malongo flip scum, but I can make that post in N2. What do you wan to talk about? Do you want me to convince you that I think koshi/malongo/tofu is a likely scum trio? Do you want me to listen to some argument you have that koshi/malongo are not scum? I seem to be repeating myself because I don't know what else to say right now at this point in the game that cannot be said during N2, when we have more information.
On July 31 2013 04:28 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Koshi, FT and Malongo are scum. I am starting to lean on scum on Cora.
What do you guys think? my scum team is koshi, ft,malongo, clarity.
On July 31 2013 04:30 exarezee wrote:
if koshi flips scum, i'm autovoting mal the next day. if mal flips scum, i'm autovoting tofu. then i have a dilemma.
if koshi flips town, i probably just concede the game and blame it on koshi.
This is the scumhunting XRZ has done Day 2. It's just bad. It's bad and he isn't even pretending to be bad.
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Hzs post in the conversation with rayn, xrz and me felt very genuine to me. An example for that is this post:
On July 31 2013 04:00 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also did not understand why did he assume the check is not real unless he knows Malongo is town. But apparently a lot of people fail at reading the OP so tha's kinda null-tell. :E Touche
It came pretty quickly after raynes post (I was f5ing hard at that time) and to me it feels scum hz wouldn't have come up with this that quickly. He immedeatly assumed rayne meant to attack his claim with this post and I think scum-hz would have read the op before fakeclaiming. No hard evidence but it seems very genuine to me.
I'm at work as always at this time of the day so my time is limited. If you want me to post reads tell me about which player you want to hear.
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On July 31 2013 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Where I am standing right now:
I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.
If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second.
But why would I do it as scum? Why would I do all this as scum?
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I would never defend you as scum and troll so hard and then come back on everything I said.
If you were town and I would be scum. I would just ride the JAT wagon. There were 3 or 4 votes on you when I woke up, I was honestly surprised that was the case and it was the catalysator of my insanity for a part.
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JAT, could you look at XRZ? Could you make a solid case on him? Town/scum.
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Why did you pick xrz exactly... damn.
I didn't know how to read this guy since the very beginning of the game that's also the reason why I didn't comment on him that much as of yet.
Ok, I will try to take a closer look at him but this will take some time as I only have a few minutes to play ever so often.
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The reason why this is so important that town knows that you are 100% town is the following:
1) If I get lynched today people will see me flip green, you will get a shitton of flak on you tomorrow and it doesn't look like you will be able to defend yourself from what I have seen. (you always defend yourself, but yours scumhunting is lacking and your defense currently as well.) If you flip town after I was lynched, town is fucked.
2) If you flip town today I will get a motherload of shit over me tomorrow. And frankly, I will get lynched and can't blame anybody. I will flip town then and town is fucked.
Fact is that I, Koshi need a red flip today to make sure town has a chance to win. I think that I the highest chance on a scumflip is you are XRZ. So proof today that you are town, even if I get lynched today town will be able to use that defense to look elsewhere tomorrow.
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Koshi, if you, Malongo and FT are town who is scum?
Look at FT´s read on me, it´s:
D1 - OMGUS
N1 - "rayn raid Vivax might be scum, when stuff happened he said he is probably town"
D2 - OMGUS
You call that a good read?
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