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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:20 GMT
#2141
EDIT

Fact is that I, Koshi need a red flip today to make sure town has a chance to win and I can survive. I think that the highest chance on a scumflip is you or XRZ. So proof today that you are town, even if I get lynched today town will be able to use that defense to look elsewhere tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
July 31 2013 12:21 GMT
#2142
On July 31 2013 21:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Where I am standing right now:

I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.

If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second.

But why would I do it as scum? Why would I do all this as scum?

Why would you do it as town?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 31 2013 12:22 GMT
#2143
On July 31 2013 21:18 Koshi wrote:
The reason why this is so important that town knows that you are 100% town is the following:

1) If I get lynched today people will see me flip green, you will get a shitton of flak on you tomorrow and it doesn't look like you will be able to defend yourself from what I have seen. (you always defend yourself, but yours scumhunting is lacking and your defense currently as well.) If you flip town after I was lynched, town is fucked.

2) If you flip town today I will get a motherload of shit over me tomorrow. And frankly, I will get lynched and can't blame anybody. I will flip town then and town is fucked.


Fact is that I, Koshi need a red flip today to make sure town has a chance to win. I think that I the highest chance on a scumflip is you are XRZ. So proof today that you are town, even if I get lynched today town will be able to use that defense to look elsewhere tomorrow.

So you are using fear to make people not vote for their scumreads (in this case you)? That´s classic mafia play.
"You will be lynched tomorrow when i flip green" - fucking retarded defense.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
July 31 2013 12:22 GMT
#2144
As scum you would do it to not get lynched obviously.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:23 GMT
#2145
On July 31 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, if you, Malongo and FT are town who is scum?
Look at FT´s read on me, it´s:
D1 - OMGUS
N1 - "rayn raid Vivax might be scum, when stuff happened he said he is probably town"
D2 - OMGUS

You call that a good read?

You and FT have a special bond. I would encourage you to look past all the things FT says about you and focus on his play not concerning yourself. FT needs to come through with 3 more cases of his scumreads, read them and base your suspicion on that.
It sucks that FT thinks you are scum but the best advice I can give you is to look at FT his play besides that.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
July 31 2013 12:24 GMT
#2146
As town you don't want to get lynched too, but you will try to make sure scum is and not anybody else besides you.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:24 GMT
#2147
On July 31 2013 21:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 21:18 Koshi wrote:
The reason why this is so important that town knows that you are 100% town is the following:

1) If I get lynched today people will see me flip green, you will get a shitton of flak on you tomorrow and it doesn't look like you will be able to defend yourself from what I have seen. (you always defend yourself, but yours scumhunting is lacking and your defense currently as well.) If you flip town after I was lynched, town is fucked.

2) If you flip town today I will get a motherload of shit over me tomorrow. And frankly, I will get lynched and can't blame anybody. I will flip town then and town is fucked.


Fact is that I, Koshi need a red flip today to make sure town has a chance to win. I think that I the highest chance on a scumflip is you are XRZ. So proof today that you are town, even if I get lynched today town will be able to use that defense to look elsewhere tomorrow.

So you are using fear to make people not vote for their scumreads (in this case you)? That´s classic mafia play.
"You will be lynched tomorrow when i flip green" - fucking retarded defense.

I am also trying to give better lynch targets. I agree that I use fear but I use it to make people think. Not to make them not vote me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:25 GMT
#2148
On July 31 2013 21:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On July 31 2013 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Where I am standing right now:

I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.

If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second.

But why would I do it as scum? Why would I do all this as scum?

Why would you do it as town?

Because I am fucking horrible.

I have not lynched in all the games I have played, not even been close, I was just testing the waters and see what it brings me. It brought me doom.

I wont be this kinda play in the future. Not as town not as scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:27 GMT
#2149
Fuck my english.

EBWOP:

1) I have not been lynched before
2) I will not be using this kinda play in the future
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 31 2013 12:28 GMT
#2150
On July 31 2013 21:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, if you, Malongo and FT are town who is scum?
Look at FT´s read on me, it´s:
D1 - OMGUS
N1 - "rayn raid Vivax might be scum, when stuff happened he said he is probably town"
D2 - OMGUS

You call that a good read?

You and FT have a special bond. I would encourage you to look past all the things FT says about you and focus on his play not concerning yourself. FT needs to come through with 3 more cases of his scumreads, read them and base your suspicion on that.
It sucks that FT thinks you are scum but the best advice I can give you is to look at FT his play besides that.

No, the point is in his case he does not give a single reason that makes me scum!!!
Also why does it suck to you that FT thinks i am scum? You seem to think that yourself. The wording you use is incredibly odd from town perspective.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:29 GMT
#2151
Also, fuck it. I could do it as scum as well.

Fact is that town is going straight to a lylo situation and I shall at least not allow my scumreads to ride in their easily because of me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:30 GMT
#2152
On July 31 2013 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 21:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 31 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, if you, Malongo and FT are town who is scum?
Look at FT´s read on me, it´s:
D1 - OMGUS
N1 - "rayn raid Vivax might be scum, when stuff happened he said he is probably town"
D2 - OMGUS

You call that a good read?

You and FT have a special bond. I would encourage you to look past all the things FT says about you and focus on his play not concerning yourself. FT needs to come through with 3 more cases of his scumreads, read them and base your suspicion on that.
It sucks that FT thinks you are scum but the best advice I can give you is to look at FT his play besides that.

No, the point is in his case he does not give a single reason that makes me scum!!!
Also why does it suck to you that FT thinks i am scum? You seem to think that yourself. The wording you use is incredibly odd from town perspective.

Yeah, I think you could be scum. But that feeling is there because you are treating me a bit the same as in I swear 2. But that feeling prevents me to look at you closely for the moment. I want more information on JAT and XRZ. Could you help me on this? Tell me why they are worse lynches than me.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 31 2013 12:33 GMT
#2153
Fine, i´ll look into them, gimme some time.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 31 2013 12:42 GMT
#2154
fuck it
#sheep vivax
##unvote
##vote XRZ
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 31 2013 12:51 GMT
#2155
XRZ looks really town from his contributions from D2. He is trying to push his scumreads, in fact he is only focused on doing so. He only talks about people he finds suspicious. In the argument between me-him-hz he thought i said something scummy (wrong), if he was mafia he would have let go of the argument earlier because he would know he is wrong. Everything he has done on D2 screams town to me.

Next JAT.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 31 2013 12:52 GMT
#2156
apparently i need to look into Oats too..
that vote is so bad, especially from a guy who has called XRZ town the whole game.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:54 GMT
#2157
On July 31 2013 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
XRZ looks really town from his contributions from D2. He is trying to push his scumreads, in fact he is only focused on doing so. He only talks about people he finds suspicious. In the argument between me-him-hz he thought i said something scummy (wrong), if he was mafia he would have let go of the argument earlier because he would know he is wrong. Everything he has done on D2 screams town to me.

Next JAT.

But he doesn't even say why we are scummy, and on top of that he gives himself outs when we would flip town. Except in 1 post where he actually say he doesn't need to give himself outs for when we flip green...

His scum reasons seem to be association and stupidity.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 31 2013 12:58 GMT
#2158
rayn. #yolo it up.

Fuck it, Im/vivax is right.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 31 2013 13:08 GMT
#2159
JAT is tough one to crack. On the other hand his posting seems town but then he does these weird things where he says he assumes X idea, then he needs to reread someone, but never follows that up and continues talking about other stuff (like his Clarity RB theory) and when Koshi asked about his read on XRZ. He said he is gonna reread XRZ and then after some time he makes other posts about something else -> seems like he never even wanted to reread XRZ in the first place.

There are some posts that indicate he is town very much. Like him not reading the setup well enough (if he did, he would know roleblocking does not block vet status - and i think scum would know this, barring Malongo who can do/say whatever whenever). It´s incredibly hard to fake an argument about scum faking a rb on Clarity to block Vivax (vet) and shoot him if you actually know rb does not block vet.

Leaning town on him.
Next read is Oats, lately he has been able to fool me, and i don´t like that
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 31 2013 13:10 GMT
#2160
Oats, Koshi was your top scumread. What made you change your mind on him? Or if you did not change your mind, why the fuck are you voting for a target of your scumread?
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