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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
July 30 2013 18:25 GMT
#1981
Did you read his reasoning for the claim? There were many people who wanted to vote him or were at least suspicious.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 18:26 GMT
#1982
On July 31 2013 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 03:16 exarezee wrote:
On July 31 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 31 2013 03:06 exarezee wrote:
i have a pretty good feel for the scumteam if two of the scum are koshi and malongo. I think its clarity/malongo/koshi/JATorTofu

I'll post my reasoning for this if we lynch koshi and he flips scum. No need to post something that might not occur...and since we can post in night phase =)

Read Clarity´s post about the roleblock. It does not make sense that he is mafia.

Look into Cora instead. He has been really bad on D2.


We have had 3 claims today. Everybody that has down this is town? Why would at least 1 scum NOT claim today? I'm really confused here.

What 3 claims are you talking about? There is one claim, and it´s HZ's. Roleblock claim is not a "claim", and why do you think scum need to claim at the start of D2?


ok, i'm really retarted. I thought clarity was claiming some town power role that was roleblocked and it didn't happen, thus why he claimed he was roleblocked. I did not know if you were a townie and were roleblocked, you would receive this information via PM
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 30 2013 18:27 GMT
#1983
On July 31 2013 03:20 hzflank wrote:
Figured it out I think.

He was RBed because in his game when a doctor saves someone both parties are notified by pm. Scum could not possily aim for Vivax without RBing Clarity, because if Clarity was Doc he was always going to target Vivax. If Vivax had pushed Clarity too hard on day 2 then Clarity could of dropped a breadcrumb to let him know that he saved him.

I can see that happening. Clarity did say that Vivax was town even though Vivax was attacking him. I can see how that might get scum to think Clarity was a doc that would have protected vivax. Still, it's a hypothetical explanation for scum motivation.

In other news, you are really reminding me of your conspiracy theory in our newbie game. I guess you're town after all.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
July 30 2013 18:27 GMT
#1984
On July 31 2013 03:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes there is a hole in your theory JAT, RB does not roleblock vet status since it is an inherent ability, not an active one. That's how it usually works here. So no they did not shoot and roleblock vivax.

Really as I said before, if clarity fake RB'ed himself it will become very apparent later. It's foolish to think of that right now.

Are you sure? Then it's different compared to the game hz talked about?
If roleblock doesn't block the vet then clarity is town to me. Don't worry.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 18:30 GMT
#1985
On July 31 2013 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Did you read his reasoning for the claim? There were many people who wanted to vote him or were at least suspicious.

If he was scum he would know that´s not true (him possibly getting lynched) as he would have scumbuddies to discuss it. It just strengthens the fact that he is probably working on his own -> is not mafia and believed he could get lynched (while it was not true).

The easiest explanation is that he did not want to derail the thread as his role is kinda useless unless shot at night, or he genuinely thought as town that people would want to lynch him and cut the crap in the first place.

There are pretty much no reasons for him to claim like that if he is mafia. If someone who looks more town than him CC's him, he's gonna get lynched. If someone less townie looking CC's him, he might live for another day. But 1-1 trade for no real reason? No shit that's possible.
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exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 18:34 GMT
#1986
@Rayn you forget the possibility that there is no veteran in the game. which makes it a slightly better play. I don't think you can completely clear hzflank based on the claim, but I still do think he is town.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 18:34 GMT
#1987
Also, if some or all of Koshi / Mal / JAT are town then they were probably just going to spend 48 hours tunneling me and being useless. To be honest it would of been tiring for me and seriously interrupted my scum-hunting. Hopefully now you three will actually scum hunt elsewhere (Hint: Not me or Clarity)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
July 30 2013 18:41 GMT
#1988
You are still absolutely not cleared for me hz but nice try. I will consider other possibilities though.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 18:42 GMT
#1989
Rayn, lets go on a quick trip through my strange brain...

Do you think that JAT is a smurf? Or do you think that this is his first game?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 18:43 GMT
#1990
EBWOP: also, did you still that that at the start of D2? Or has it changed since then?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 18:43 GMT
#1991
On July 31 2013 03:34 exarezee wrote:
@Rayn you forget the possibility that there is no veteran in the game. which makes it a slightly better play. I don't think you can completely clear hzflank based on the claim, but I still do think he is town.

Why can´t you understand that mafia does not know if there is a veteran or not. They would not take the risk HZ took, as there are more risks than benefits in fakeclaiming unnecessarily.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 18:44 GMT
#1992
On July 31 2013 03:42 hzflank wrote:
Rayn, lets go on a quick trip through my strange brain...

Do you think that JAT is a smurf? Or do you think that this is his first game?

I think i have been pretty clear throughout the game that i believe this is his first game.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
July 30 2013 18:44 GMT
#1993
On July 31 2013 03:42 hzflank wrote:
Rayn, lets go on a quick trip through my strange brain...

Do you think that JAT is a smurf? Or do you think that this is his first game?

Seriously?...
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 18:53 GMT
#1994
On July 31 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 03:42 hzflank wrote:
Rayn, lets go on a quick trip through my strange brain...

Do you think that JAT is a smurf? Or do you think that this is his first game?

I think i have been pretty clear throughout the game that i believe this is his first game.


So JAT posts this:

On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real):
hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats.
Details tomorrow.


And you follow up with these:

On July 30 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also JAT is scum. Based purely on his last post-


On July 30 2013 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Clarity and FT.


You think that JAT is as first-timer who is scum. JAT posts his scum reads which includes FT who he never previously mentioned as well as Malongo who there was seemingly a guilty check on.

If JAT was a first-timer playing scum then he is not going to post 2 of his buddies out of the blue in a list like that. Therefore, upon proper analysis of that you should not of thought that both JAT and FT were scum.

Now I am not calling you (Rayn) scum for this because you posted quickly without proper analysis and I missed it too at the time. But if JAT is a first-timer then JAT, FT and Mal are unlikely to all be scum.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#1995
On July 31 2013 03:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 03:42 hzflank wrote:
Rayn, lets go on a quick trip through my strange brain...

Do you think that JAT is a smurf? Or do you think that this is his first game?

Seriously?...


That was a setup question which had a purpose, as you may now see.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 18:55 GMT
#1996
Yeah that post was purely reactionary from me. I did not understand why he thought i was scum as i instantly voted for Malongo after Vayne's check.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
July 30 2013 18:55 GMT
#1997
Yes, I did sorry. I thought you wanted to derail.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 18:57 GMT
#1998
I also did not understand why did he assume the check is not real unless he knows Malongo is town. But apparently a lot of people fail at reading the OP so tha's kinda null-tell. :E
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
July 30 2013 18:58 GMT
#1999
I didn't assume it but I didn't rule it out.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 18:59 GMT
#2000
On July 31 2013 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
I didn't assume it but I didn't rule it out.

Yeah, pretty much that. :D
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