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exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 19:22 GMT
#2021
I mean this discussion is off topic. But what else is there to talk about? Lynch koshi+malongo. See who dies, try to figure more stuff out. I highly doubt anybody is going to convince me not to vote koshi today and malongo tomorrow.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 19:23 GMT
#2022
There is lots to talk about...we just have to find it first. if you have not done so yet read pages 77-80 a few times.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 19:25 GMT
#2023
I think Koshi, FT and Malongo are scum. I am starting to lean on scum on Cora.
What do you guys think?
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exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 19:27 GMT
#2024
On July 31 2013 04:23 hzflank wrote:
There is lots to talk about...we just have to find it first. if you have not done so yet read pages 77-80 a few times.


I mean, we're like all in agreement that koshi and malongo need to go. We're going to be speculating so far down the road that I just don't feel like it's worth it. I've already got a scum team in mind that i can post arguments for if koshi and malongo flip scum, but I can make that post in N2.

What do you wan to talk about? Do you want me to convince you that I think koshi/malongo/tofu is a likely scum trio? Do you want me to listen to some argument you have that koshi/malongo are not scum?

I seem to be repeating myself because I don't know what else to say right now at this point in the game that cannot be said during N2, when we have more information.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 30 2013 19:27 GMT
#2025
##vote: Justanothertownie

Too weird, too weird.
I come in for the scraps
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 19:28 GMT
#2026
On July 31 2013 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Koshi, FT and Malongo are scum. I am starting to lean on scum on Cora.
What do you guys think?


my scum team is koshi, ft,malongo, clarity.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 19:28 GMT
#2027
Koshi has to be scum at this point. It was bad enough on day 1 when he just refused to talk to me. Now he refuses to talk to anyone who he 'thinks is scum'. I think that what Koshi is really doing is refusing to talk to people who are trying to scum-hunt on him.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 19:30 GMT
#2028
if koshi flips scum, i'm autovoting mal the next day. if mal flips scum, i'm autovoting tofu. then i have a dilemma.

if koshi flips town, i probably just concede the game and blame it on koshi.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 19:30 GMT
#2029
Why does Koshi scum = Mal scum?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
July 30 2013 19:31 GMT
#2030
On July 31 2013 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Justanothertownie

Too weird, too weird.

What is it that you think is weird?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 19:32 GMT
#2031
I don't think Clarity is scum because of the roleblock thingy.It just doesn't make sense to me.
Can you XRZ and HZ look into Cora more closely and tell me what do you find out?
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 19:33 GMT
#2032
I'll throw something new into the pot:

I thought that Rayn's big post against Tofu was forced.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=98#1948

I am not sure why yet. It could be that Rayn is scum, but it is odd that scum Rayn needs to force that on Tofu at this point. If could be that Rayn is so convinced that Tofu is scum that he is not looking at it clearly, or at least that he is not seeing it the same way that I see it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 19:33 GMT
#2033
On July 31 2013 04:30 hzflank wrote:
Why does Koshi scum = Mal scum?

For me it's not a connection case. They are both fucking scummy.
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exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 19:33 GMT
#2034
On July 31 2013 04:30 hzflank wrote:
Why does Koshi scum = Mal scum?


they are both independently scummy. But on principle, I want to vote koshi first. But, if koshi and mal are both scum, tofu is very very likely scum.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 19:41 GMT
#2035
On July 29 2013 08:50 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:49 Koshi wrote:
Tofu. If paper turns green that changes right?

Vivax and rayn look bad then?

If paper flips green, I'm not sure what to think. I'm pretty sure that you and Malongo are town though.


And this is why tofu must be lynched malongo and and koshi both flip scum
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 19:43 GMT
#2036
On July 31 2013 04:33 hzflank wrote:
I'll throw something new into the pot:

I thought that Rayn's big post against Tofu was forced.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=98#1948

I am not sure why yet. It could be that Rayn is scum, but it is odd that scum Rayn needs to force that on Tofu at this point. If could be that Rayn is so convinced that Tofu is scum that he is not looking at it clearly, or at least that he is not seeing it the same way that I see it.

The whole post is about how FT was acting near the lynch. If you can't why that is scummy i can't help you.
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exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 30 2013 19:45 GMT
#2037
ok, i'm feeling a lot better about rayn now.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 30 2013 19:51 GMT
#2038
On Cora:

I disagree with all of his game theory stuff, and therefore certainly do not like that he uses it to attack people. The combination of these two quotes is bad (they are from the same post):

On July 29 2013 15:56 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
If Rayn thought Paperscraps was town (or at least 95% town, coming from that post), he should not have voted for Paperscraps. Why is a no-lynch better than lynching a townie?


On July 29 2013 15:56 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
The same goes for Vivax and his voteswitch timing. He was the last vote off of the Paperscraps wagon and onto the FirmTofu wagon.


Cora basically argues with himself in this post:

On July 29 2013 23:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Vivax, I love how you are trying to call every single thing terrible about Paper's lynch, yet you voted for him right at the deadline in the interest of "consolidation", before switching back to FirmTofu.

To everyone who wants to answer:
Is a no lynch better than a mislynch? Is it scummy to vote for someone you don't think is scum, only in the interest of getting a lynch?

I would tend to think that voting for people I have town reads on is a pretty stupid idea, and is scum-motivated because they just want the lynch.

Also @Oats:
If you had been at the deadline, who would you have voted for and why?



Everything Cora says about voting or not voting for your scum read is nonsense because he contradicts himself.

I like the fact that Cora thinks that people who do not scum-hunt are scum, ofcourse.

It's hard to reach a conclusion at the moment. I really wish Cora would spend some time and do some more scum-hunting. There are some very simple associations to make when we see other flips though, as one way or the other Cora has plauyed a very simple game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
July 30 2013 19:52 GMT
#2039
Hey, Vayne... maybe you want to give a more detailed reasoning for why you think my play is weird and I therefore have to be scum? Also you could give us some reads apart from me. You don't want to look scummy do you?
On July 28 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:06 exarezee wrote:
I'm tunneling? What do I not see clearly?

Please point out flaws in my logical reasoning. Where do I make a bad logical mistake to imply I am not a townsperson trying to solve the case.


I'm not saying your case is bad or anything, but rather discussing the length as to which you keep drilling into it. There's quite a few other people in this game. Tunneling is an easy way to get by as scum without revealing too much about yourself. I do it all the time.


raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 30 2013 19:55 GMT
#2040
The problem with Cora's voting theories is that townies did not know if Paper lynch was a mislynch or not. People arguing on about whether to lynch him or not at the end of the day are more likely town (me/Vivax/Stutters). Why would scum give a fuck about a lynch that is town? There was no other lynch possible to happen about the time of posts Cora is talking about.

I also don't like the fact that Cora is ignoring the accusations on specific people (mainly FT) and accusing other people of same stuff (mainly Stutters) he should find suspicious of FT.
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