Titanic Mini Mafia! - Page 101

On July 31 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also did not understand why did he assume the check is not real unless he knows Malongo is town. But apparently a lot of people fail at reading the OP so tha's kinda null-tell. :E

On July 31 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you mean by that?

On July 31 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Why can´t you understand that mafia does not know if there is a veteran or not. They would not take the risk HZ took, as there are more risks than benefits in fakeclaiming unnecessarily.

On July 31 2013 04:03 exarezee wrote:


I disagree with your conclusion that there are more risks than benefits and that mafia would never make this move. Hzflank WAS going to get some flak. This increases the chance mafia hzflank would fake claim.

A fakeclaim isn't bad here IMO. Keep in mind that several people have scum reads on kzflank on this point in the game, increasing the chance for mafia to make this play. I don't know what the odds of there being a veteran in the game, but i want to assume something like 50% as i think there are two town power roles. 50% of the time he gets away with the claim, and people like you have completely cleared him. 50% of the time, he gets counterclaimed. 50% of the time we lynch the counter claimant who is actually town, and we are at must lynch scenario. 1-1 trade is not bad at all, since the likeliest setup is now detective + veteran. Every lynch thereafter is must lynch and a mistake is town loss. So this play works roughly 75% of the time or so.

On July 31 2013 04:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Why do you think there are two power roles and why do you assume scum thinks so?

On July 31 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't really want to argue with you about this unless you seriously think hz is mafia. Because i think you are wrong and i don't want to waste time in explaining same stuff i have done before.

TLDR; If you do not think HZ is mafia, please drop the discussion about this ok?

On July 31 2013 04:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Why do you think there are two power roles and why do you assume scum thinks so?

On July 31 2013 04:10 exarezee wrote:


The reason I am discussing this with you is because you make these concrete statements as facts. "hzflank is town because of his claim." "clarity is town because of his claim". These posts are terrible for people that might not want to think themselves. I think you are town. Others think you are town. But following these ridiculous assumptions that people "won't do this as scum" is simply not true.

On July 31 2013 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

There is no way hz would have claimed vet if he was mafia at the start of D2. He is town.

On July 31 2013 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

There is no way hz would have claimed vet if he was mafia at the start of D2. He is town.

On July 31 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Read Clarity´s post about the roleblock. It does not make sense that he is mafia.

Look into Cora instead. He has been really bad on D2.

On July 31 2013 04:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Doesn't that depend on the scum roles too?

On July 31 2013 04:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled now XRZ. Why are you arguing with me and HZ about stuff that is regarding us as you think both of us are town? You are wasting time if you are town..

On July 31 2013 04:21 exarezee wrote:


I'm suspicious when you try to tell me HZ is town because of his claim. Clarity is town because of his claim. Vayne is town because of his claim. I should have claimed something logical so you would have cleared me too.