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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On August 01 2013 06:22 DeusXmachina wrote: I am back. A lot has gone on, and there is a lot I want to talk about so this is going to be a long post. The focus of this post will still be on reps, however I wanted to address a couple things first. Alakaslam votes me because of the Kenpachi rule. Lol. That is just stupid. I never attacked a VT claim. Asking if Alakaslam can be trusted because he claimed VT super early is hardly an attack. There is some talk on people who are being neutral and others who are not contributing that much. Honestly, I think we should wait to target these people. If they are persistently neutral or lurking throughout multiple days then we have more reason to be suspicious. That being said, why would you even want to stay neutral? Being a vocal townie is not a bad thing. Just imagine if every legit townie was trying to be extremely pro town. Scum couldn't target one specific individual, and town would have a great basis for analyzing potential scum posts, i.e. a post that was trying to appear pro town. Okay, I still want to focus on reps. If reps is scum and he gets lynched, WOOT good job townies. If reps is a bad townie and he gets lynched, WOOT good job townies. Has anyone actually disagreed that reps is either scum or a bad townie? Honestly this didn't contribute much at all. In fact most of his posts are pointless. But here is what Interests me. Reps says he has been reading up on a few TL Mafia games and expresses his interest in non posters. He hasn't posted that much, at time he has been a complete lurker, and again non of his posts are actually that meaningful. For someone who has been reading TL Mafia games your doing a really shitty job so far reps, no offense. Furthermore, if he has been reading TL Mafia games why the hell does he appear so newbie still? Evidence of pointless posts: (I am not going to quote them because there is a lot) 1. Welcome Nightcat you have missed just about nothing. 2. Yeah just use the edit button and that thing. 3. Quotes me and says, "Meaningless fluff is awesome! But I guess that is not something to do." 4. oh (are you kidding me reps....) 5. Quotes and then says, "Happy?" (seriously............) 6. sc_a.M has not posted since the game has started. RDaneelOlivaw posted one fluff since the game started. 7. A picture (my favorite) Okay a lot of pointless posts there. He has not contributed much. That seems scummy to me. Furthermore, his defense of my accusation was poor. He doesn't even thwart any suspicion here, instead he actually claims his actions were scummy, which means that accusation was warranted. Couple more things. Ill be brief. Why would he vote Umasi? That makes little sense. He votes Umasi because Umasi came under recent suspicion. That seem like he is trying to blend in to me. Furthermore he presses his attack against Umasi, saying that anyone who defends him, like Umasi did, should appear suspicious? WAT? Yeah maybe if you are scum than anyone who defends you should appear suspicious. But if your townie why do you care? Furthermore, that is certanly not a reason to vote Umasi. In conclusion, At best he is a bad townie and we should lynch him. However, he seems very scummy to me. This is much of what I was saying about reps and that's why I voted for him. I'm interested to hear your reads on infii and gotard though. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 01 2013 05:44 reps)squishy wrote: Anyone, anyone! That defends me in the smallest way (Usami) you should be super suspicious of them it's the oldest move in the mafia strategy. Here is his defense. Anyone that votes to lynch me is town. Mafia won't waste a lynch someone that the town is going to lynch already. This is too odd It just looks bus-y man | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Infini coming. | ||
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
On August 01 2013 04:09 Umasi wrote: oh this is a good moment to mention, I totally forgot early game guys no lynching is retarded, the only weapon we have is our vote t.t so voting to no lynch is squandering your vote, and I'll happily switch votes to prevent a no lynch Why? Doesn't it make sense to try to get a solid read first? Otherwise odds are we are just killing off our own? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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sc_a.M
420 Posts
On August 01 2013 06:22 DeusXmachina wrote: I am back. A lot has gone on, and there is a lot I want to talk about so this is going to be a long post. The focus of this post will still be on reps, however I wanted to address a couple things first. Alakaslam votes me because of the Kenpachi rule. Lol. That is just stupid. I never attacked a VT claim. Asking if Alakaslam can be trusted because he claimed VT super early is hardly an attack. There is some talk on people who are being neutral and others who are not contributing that much. Honestly, I think we should wait to target these people. If they are persistently neutral or lurking throughout multiple days then we have more reason to be suspicious. That being said, why would you even want to stay neutral? Being a vocal townie is not a bad thing. Just imagine if every legit townie was trying to be extremely pro town. Scum couldn't target one specific individual, and town would have a great basis for analyzing potential scum posts, i.e. a post that was trying to appear pro town. Okay, I still want to focus on reps. If reps is scum and he gets lynched, WOOT good job townies. If reps is a bad townie and he gets lynched, WOOT good job townies. Has anyone actually disagreed that reps is either scum or a bad townie? Honestly this didn't contribute much at all. In fact most of his posts are pointless. But here is what Interests me. Reps says he has been reading up on a few TL Mafia games and expresses his interest in non posters. He hasn't posted that much, at time he has been a complete lurker, and again non of his posts are actually that meaningful. For someone who has been reading TL Mafia games your doing a really shitty job so far reps, no offense. Furthermore, if he has been reading TL Mafia games why the hell does he appear so newbie still? Evidence of pointless posts: (I am not going to quote them because there is a lot) 1. Welcome Nightcat you have missed just about nothing. 2. Yeah just use the edit button and that thing. 3. Quotes me and says, "Meaningless fluff is awesome! But I guess that is not something to do." 4. oh (are you kidding me reps....) 5. Quotes and then says, "Happy?" (seriously............) 6. sc_a.M has not posted since the game has started. RDaneelOlivaw posted one fluff since the game started. 7. A picture (my favorite) Okay a lot of pointless posts there. He has not contributed much. That seems scummy to me. Furthermore, his defense of my accusation was poor. He doesn't even thwart any suspicion here, instead he actually claims his actions were scummy, which means that accusation was warranted. Couple more things. Ill be brief. Why would he vote Umasi? That makes little sense. He votes Umasi because Umasi came under recent suspicion. That seem like he is trying to blend in to me. Furthermore he presses his attack against Umasi, saying that anyone who defends him, like Umasi did, should appear suspicious? WAT? Yeah maybe if you are scum than anyone who defends you should appear suspicious. But if your townie why do you care? Furthermore, that is certanly not a reason to vote Umasi. In conclusion, At best he is a bad townie and we should lynch him. However, he seems very scummy to me. I don't think you're totally right on reps, somehow it is so that beeing a newby appears to be scummy. We're in the same boat, and I don't think we should gang up on the newst members. I don't understand how can vote on someone without the possibilty of evidence, it's just random. Perhaps he felt intimidated, I too hate the thought of beeing lead by a mafia friendly person. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 01 2013 06:54 Alakaslam wrote: Infii is red if squishy is red. Ebwoq: his filter also implicated reps squishy | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 01 2013 06:52 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: Why? Doesn't it make sense to try to get a solid read first? Otherwise odds are we are just killing off our own? This is the counterpoint. And Hzflank is a strong town for newbie who pushed that with another- Hurricane sponge- but people forget that hz was scum, and that the guides say otherwise. That being said usually? You want to lynch. Believe us. I am just willin to put up a disclaimer. | ||
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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 01 2013 07:02 DeusXmachina wrote: I think Reps is scum Alakaslam. He is definitely the closest thing to scum we have seen so far. But lets say we lynch him and he turns out to be townie. Then we just lynched a bad townie. It would not be a loss. True, but the same goes for lurkers, whereas if reps weren't scum, he would possibly get better. So why is reps better than a lurker? I am || close to voting the squishy. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
alright, that case sold me on you not being scum atm. Specifically, the way your brought up your points and your mentality is very pro-town, in a way that your earlier posts were not. Reps is just so out there uninformed/bad/pick your word that I have a hard time believing he's scum, despite everything. Him randomly throwing a vote on me with THAT logic is just stupid. Most of the things he does are stupid, not scum. I guess I don't mind lynching him, because some of it is scum. Deus, what do you think about people that aren't reps? Specifically infii. And reps, what do you think of people that aren't me? Specifically infii, again. On August 01 2013 06:52 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: Why? Doesn't it make sense to try to get a solid read first? Otherwise odds are we are just killing off our own? conceptually, I prefer to always lynch no matter what forever. Totally policy "we could be lynching one of our own though" well lynch the scummiest or second scummiest, there's always the possibility of lynching one of our own. The thing is, if you take away the lynch, town has literally nothing concrete left. This IS our power in the game. This is all half of the people in this game can DO. So by nature, voting to no lynch is wasting that power. | ||
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 01 2013 07:29 reps)squishy wrote: I don't know what made me a bad townie people. I read guides watched the mafia meta (like Alakaslam wanted me to do) and people that bandwagon tend to be mafia to I voted Usami. The favorite to get lynched right now is me. I did not know being a newbie came off as scum which was my biggest blunder. My newbie claims were truthful and my responses have not been the best with all the pressure of being center of the spotlight in my first mafia game. By night time if I am not lynched I will have a far greater chance to improve and help the town out. O.O Watching reps is like watching myself See this is why I am reluctant to vote him. Reps much of this straight up comes with experience. But believe me, the most important thing you can do is care 0% about staying alive and 100% about finding out who is scum and voting them immediately. This will be very hard. Also, keep talking. The more you say about why you think what you do will be more likely to show those who see it your alignment. But read (NOT SKIM) those guides, they are actually really good. Heck I fail them often enough but who can remember 100% of what they read. Just... If you're here ask questions and give answers, read filters and keep up on the thread. You seem to be doing ok but you are drawing conclusions exactly as I did back when. BE CARELESS! You are town? Prove it with truth! Just spout honesty! But don't role claim unles you are vanilla town. | ||
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Gotard
Poland446 Posts
On August 01 2013 05:56 infii wrote: In which way did I say nothing? My post was targeted mainly at sc_a.M. The no-analysis thing was meant as a side note to clarify my thoughts on it... "My post was targeted mainly at sc_a.M" On August 01 2013 05:56 infii wrote: That sounds so much pro scum that it almost can't be true. Please clarify your post if you are town. Really? I mean, really? If you are targeting something it would be nice if you would explain to us why you think that particular behaviour is scummy. No lynch seems like a bad option to me but in the last game I played there was a guy who wanted no lynch and he was town. This is an opinion and of course you can argue with it but you need to tell why you don't agree. If you say something is scummy tell us why and i mean WHY not some meaningless one-liner. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 01 2013 07:46 Gotard wrote: "My post was targeted mainly at sc_a.M" Really? I mean, really? If you are targeting something it would be nice if you would explain to us why you think that particular behaviour is scummy. No lynch seems like a bad option to me but in the last game I played there was a guy who wanted no lynch and he was town. This is an opinion and of course you can argue with it but you need to tell why you don't agree. If you say something is scummy tell us why and i mean WHY not some meaningless one-liner. Frankly, Gotard, I think he may be scum. If he is it implicates squishy a little but will be mostly WIFOM. I squishy is red I practically insist you are right and Indio is scum. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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