EPTYou seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?
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Z-BosoN
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You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:07 Z-BosoN wrote: How do you think the QT should be used effectively? What do you think of my thoughts in the other post? The game has just started. I think the QT's at this point should be used to figure out your mason partner's alignment. Subject to change later on. You mean this post? On July 24 2013 14:46 Z-BosoN wrote: Hey dudes I think to start things off, I want to implore you to please avoid spam in the thread, and at all costs, DONT LURK. Ima bit traumatized frm nuclear mafia Also, I would like everyone to comment on this QT mechanic, and how it should be used. To answer my own question, I am of the view that the QTs should be as active as possible. Each person in the QT should gauge the reaction of their buddy and try to compare the general posting on the thread and on the QT. Its another source of information that should be used. HOWEVER, the good posts and analysis should be in the thread, where everyone can view the info. Im sure scum would much rather hide behind the QTs instead of posting out in the open, so lets try to avoid that. For clarity: Random thoughts, fluff, and other stuff = QT Cases, relevant analysis, poking and prodding = thread Thoughts/comments? I think there should be no random thoughts & fluff. Why do you? Also what do you mean by other stuff? At this point all analysis should be on thread. There is no reason to be not transparent. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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On July 24 2013 15:09 FirmTofu wrote: Nono, you didn't understand what I said. I'm asking do you think we should tell the thread who our QT partners are? Oh. No, I disagree. I think that the information associated with the timing of future mason claims is relevant. TBH, I dont see the point at all to announce your partners for no reason at this stage of the game. What say you? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote: Also, @rayne You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction? Because the claim is either stupid or scum. | ||
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FirmTofu
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On July 24 2013 15:13 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh. No, I disagree. I think that the information associated with the timing of future mason claims is relevant. TBH, I dont see the point at all to announce your partners for no reason at this stage of the game. What say you? Agreed. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: The game has just started. I think the QT's at this point should be used to figure out your mason partner's alignment. Subject to change later on. You mean this post? I think there should be no random thoughts & fluff. Why do you? Also what do you mean by other stuff? At this point all analysis should be on thread. There is no reason to be not transparent. I added "fluff" in there so as to mean that there wont be fluff in the thread. But yea, the less fluff the better. Random thoughts = related to the game, but that would be disruptive in the thread. Other stuff = masterful game-ending plans to dish out scum  I agree 100% that transparency is best for now, so Im glad that on this regard we are on the same page. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Where I stand: People should NOT be anonymous in their QTs. There is no reason to do that. People should be trying to discern the alignment of their partner, but not to the point where they stifle discussion in the QT. Pressure him, but don't argue incessantly. People should not tell the thread who their partners are. If the partners are both town, we end up denying scum a TON of useful information by not saying who your partner is. It will also be useful to find mini-mason circles to confuse scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Z-BosoN
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On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because the claim is either stupid or scum. Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is. However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since... | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote: Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is. However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since... That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt. | ||
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FirmTofu
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:03 Z-BosoN wrote: @FirmTofu I think there is no point to the QTs if we treat people there as we would treat people here. Anonymity is much more comfortable for scum to post in because they cannot be held liable for their posts. IMO this is quite agreeable. Can you explain what you mean by "only revealing when you have dirt on them"? Do you find this to be a valid plan? @shiaoPi I disagree with you. Having someone to polish their cases with before posting it out in the open is better for scum, because it will be harder for everyone else to fish out lies and inconsistencies that would be present in the original case. However, I think discussions regarding certain people should take place before making a case, but not to the point where theh case will come from two people instead of one. Am I being clear about my meaning? What do you think? What's wrong with the part where someone from the QT posting cases made after it's been proven/given up on? As long as we still show the cases that were made, they can't hide behind anything | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:34 Sylencia wrote: What's wrong with the part where someone from the QT posting cases made after it's been proven/given up on? As long as we still show the cases that were made, they can't hide behind anything Theres a difference between one person reading a case and 11. While one person may not find anything noteworthy in a case, some other townie might. Cases should go in thread first. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: What do you think of Sylencia? Well, theres only like two pages of content, so theres not really much I can say. He's a little slow with the posts, but thats not alignment indicative. Anything caught your attention? | ||
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Z-BosoN
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On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt. Theres no reason he should do that as scum either. I wouldnt care for that at all if he had contributed in some more useful manner later on. Is the claim solely the biggest issue you have with shiaopi? | ||
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Z-BosoN
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 24 2013 15:51 Z-BosoN wrote: Theres no reason he should do that as scum either. I wouldnt care for that at all if he had contributed in some more useful manner later on. Is the claim solely the biggest issue you have with shiaopi? That's the only thing ShiaoPi has posted, how could anything else be an issue with him? I know the claim is not alignment indicative in itself, but ShiaoPi's reasons sure are. There is a reason he said what he did, and i want to know what his reasons were. On July 24 2013 15:47 Z-BosoN wrote: Well, theres only like two pages of content, so theres not really much I can say. He's a little slow with the posts, but thats not alignment indicative. Anything caught your attention? Sylencia asks people about if mason-partners should reveal their identity to each other. However he himself seems to have no stance on that. That's what caught my attention. Sylencia: Do you think mason partners should reveal their identity to each other? Why/why not? | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
got 1 mason partner, no more no less. scum got 3 players. Every scum player is paired with a town player. Which doesn't seem very unresonable to me. This means that scum already knows 3 of the mason pairs. Claiming our QTs means that scum will know 3 more QTs by having everyone to claim but town will know 5 more QTs. This is a very favourable trade off for town. Also, more openess is almost always a positive thing for town. Another thing we could discuss is revealing all posts from the QTs every night. This is an idea we used in Mad men mafia, where we had 6 millers (the ones who chooses a player every day to chat with, not these types, but still) in a 24 player game. Some time before the NK one of the players outed every post made in the QT the last 72 hours. Not only did this give more information to work with for the thread but it also prevents scum from faking posts in the QT if the partner dies. I haven't really analyzed this idea too much, but I think it is probably a good one. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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