EPTSylencia you are a hero amongst men.
I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia 2 - Page 34
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Sylencia you are a hero amongst men. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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Dandel Ion
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Dandel Ion
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Maybe i'll even do that. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On July 26 2013 00:56 FirmTofu wrote: We don't necessarily need to consolidate because it's plurality lynch. You should be voting your biggest scum read, not sheeping a wagon. This post gave me cancer | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
BUT MY FEELS THEY ARE NEVER WRONG | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
3. Stutters695 6. Raynpelikoneet 8. Rainbows 10. FirmTofu [[ koshi and syl are "confirmed" town (quotation marks r srs bsns) lazer and showpee are probably town (close enough) i'm a town 15th party surviving admiral ackbar dragoon of yore inventing (not scum) ]] rayn is dumb (?) Rainbows dunno (really) Firm is interesting because of reasons (many reasons, not all reasonable though) Elimination leaves Zbobo and the Stuttette (both of whose blood should flow) zet iz ze game. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
 dw im not gonna go full PTP IV on yall | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
So some quick anylyze of what probably happend. Scum genrally never busses hard D1. Yes, it has been done but most of the time the simple answer is the correct one: i.e. the scum team lacked thread control and played bad. As for players. Dandel, Sylencia, Koshi and Rainbows all look really really good to me. Rayn actually looks really horrific after that lynch. Ctrl+F "Artanis" in his filter. The first two and a half pages he doesn't take a stance on him at all and barely mentions him. Now, I wouldn't say this is the biggest scum tell but when you look at the game, Artanis was a quite big topic of discussion at times. Rainbows wrote a case, Dandel pushed him. I talked a little about him. Sure, Rayn wasn't the only one NOT to talk about Artanis but I do feel its wierd that he didn't take any type of stance at all. When he suddenly posts this posts On July 26 2013 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I call him out for it.This is how he answersAlso we are not lynching Artanis or Lazermonkey. On July 26 2013 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the only time that he ever took a stance on Artanis and his explanation is so lack luster that I can't find words for it. What part of his play was logical? Why does that indicate town play? What does he think about the several points that has been brought up by everyone? He doesn't comment on that at all. Instead he proceeds to vote for Malongo who he hasn't mentioned at all prior to the lynch as well. He is first reluctant to vote him because he thinks he is just useless and would rather go for Koshi/Sylencia but in the end he votes him anyway because he rather wants to see him hang than Artanis. But we have 0 knowledge of why that is... O, that's right Artanis was "logical"...Because he is making sense although his case on you i don't agree with. Can we just kill Sylencia/Koshi? Koshi is definitely most scummy from the active players. He is even himself calling his post terrible... Sylencia & Malongo are just meh and Sylencia just disappeared after he was put some pressure on him. At least Malongo lurks with style, though he is useless. Stutters looks bad as well after this lynch. He actually never mention Artanis one single time in his filter (though he does talk about how he fell for the kenpachi rule 5 times... Not that this is relevant in any way). He doesn't push his top scum read, Malango, at all but instead argues with me. He doesn't take a stance on anyone else except for a really weak town read on Dandel very very early on. With all that being said, I'm actually getting a bit torn on Stutters, his play doesn't really make sense if he was scum. If he was, he'd knew that his scum buddy Artanis was in trouble. While a straight up defense might be out of the question at that point, why didn't he push for Malango or anyone else? At the time where he left, it was very uncertain who was getting lynched and I it was clear that Artanis was under threat, much more so than himself. I also think its semi wierd that he doesn't even try to comment on anyone. I know "too scummy to be scum" is a bad way to justify someone's innocence but why doesn't he even try to fabricate some reads? Look at Artanis for example, he actually gives out alot of reads. Some of them, his scum read on me comes to mind, felt insanely forced but he at least tried. Stutters just didn't do shit and was open about that, which actually gives me some town vibes All in all, I still think stutters look bad but not as bad as he did before... Z-Boson: TBH I haven't looked too much into this guy but my impression is that he is more likely wrong town than scum. He has been active and it seems like he is trying to figure out stuff. But it is alarming that we have so diferent reads. He also defended Artanis quite a bit. FirmTofu: I think he upped his game alot since the start. And while I don't like to make associated reads before flip, he is pushing Rayn quite a bit and seems to be certain that he is scum. With that being said though, while he didn't ignore the Malango/Artanis issue, he didn't really take a clear stance on which one of them he wantd to kill the most. He also just left his vote on Rayn which I dislike. Still quite scummy. ShiaoPi: At first, I thought he looked quite good after the lynch. His play made sense and his reads post flip were very similar to mine. However, he was at first very reluctant to comment on the Artanis/Malango issue. Actually, what gives me a really scummy feeling about him is that he close to dead line comes to the conclusion that Malango isn't scum. What does he do? Votes Rayn... WTF!? So instead of saving the guy he thinks is town by voting Artanis (and let me get this straight, he did not have a town read on Artanis or anything) He places his vote on a guy who isn't going to get lynched, which means the guy who he thinks is town IS going to get lynched. He even asks if a Rayn lynch is happening, gets the answer "no" and still leaves the vote on Rayn... I just don't know -.- Conclusion: I think we really should kill Rayn tomorrow. I'm kinda uncertain on the other guys, I want to hear them to explain their action + do some scum hunting but right now my order of lynch preference is something like this 1.Rayn 2.stutters 3.ShiaoPi/FT 5.Z-Boson Jesus, that was a long post : P | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
You will be missed. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
ShiaoPi Do you really think FT can be considered town just because he was attacked early by Artanis? Scum attacking each other early on in the game is not uncommon at all in my opinion. And attacks early D1 hardly means anything anyway.. Dandel Why is rayn dumb and not scum? What does "Rainbow dunno" mean? That you haven't read him or that you are unsure of his alignment? I don't get what you mean with Firm really, You seem to be very uncertain of these town reads yet you say that both stutters and Z-Boson are scum via elimination. This doesn't make sense. Either you are really sure of Rayn, Rainbow and Firm being town or procoess of elimination is quite useless. | ||
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Stutters695
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I'll be here for quite a few hours today but some food for thought for anyone thinking this confirms me as scum. Even if Syl doesn't shoot Artanis there, I'm not playing for an endgame with such a reckless(in retrospect) push on Malongo. If you've read my scum game and think I'm scum, I'd like to think it would be obvious that I'd be doing something much more devious than just pushing a mislynch on one of the weaker players(no offense intended) and leaving myself as an obvious lynch on d2. If I were scum I'd probably have bussed or accused someone like Mal but backed off after Lazer's interaction with me to not be the first person to vote on a lynch that incriminates me. I'll be looking at the other people on the wagon throughout work today in case you guys do decide to lynch me at least you'll have my thoughts, but hopefully I can make you see reason. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
1. Raynpelikoneet (Chaotic wrong) 2. Z-BosoN (Lawful wrong) 3. Stutters695 (Neutral wrong) | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Lazermonkey
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
I did not want to kill Artanis since I wanted to keep him around for another cycle and see if he would continue to be useless. Therefore I sat on my vote and wanted to off rayn(still want to), my scumread. In regards to my read on FT the thing that artanis attacked him is more or less the cherry on top. During my interaction with him earlier I was already moving him out of the scummy zone. Also he is a town-leaning null read not a townread | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 27 2013 00:02 ShiaoPi wrote: So you'd rather kill your town read than the person you think is useless?@Lazer: I did not want to kill Artanis since I wanted to keep him around for another cycle and see if he would continue to be useless. Therefore I sat on my vote and wanted to off rayn(still want to), my scumread. In regards to my read on FT the thing that artanis attacked him is more or less the cherry on top. During my interaction with him earlier I was already moving him out of the scummy zone. Also he is a town-leaning null read not a townread | ||
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