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On July 26 2013 22:55 Lazermonkey wrote:
Dandel
Why is rayn dumb and not scum?
What does "Rainbow dunno" mean? That you haven't read him or that you are unsure of his alignment?
I don't get what you mean with Firm really,
You seem to be very uncertain of these town reads yet you say that both stutters and Z-Boson are scum via elimination. This doesn't make sense. Either you are really sure of Rayn, Rainbow and Firm being town or procoess of elimination is quite useless.
I didn't say that
that i dunno (a bit of both)
dw
I eliminate in steps.
Like the old pyramids before they went viral and decided to be all smooth and not steppy at all.
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On July 26 2013 23:32 Lazermonkey wrote:
Koshi, don't lynch guys because they are wrong. That's retarded and you know it : )
Why not?
It's an incredibly useful thing to do. Do that often enough and they'll learn to not be wrong again in the future.
It's for the good of us all.
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Just look at Vivax.
He used to be wrong as shit, then I lynched him 200 times, then he at least contained the bad so it doesn't spread to other people and he's even right (gasp)once every five games or so.
MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT
IT WORKS
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here i go, teaching the nubs all my secret strats
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I have an international flight today, so I will not be active today/tomorrow
I'll try to come up with some reads before I leave
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
On July 27 2013 00:17 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 00:02 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Lazer:
I did not want to kill Artanis since I wanted to keep him around for another cycle and see if he would continue to be useless. Therefore I sat on my vote and wanted to off rayn(still want to), my scumread.
In regards to my read on FT the thing that artanis attacked him is more or less the cherry on top. During my interaction with him earlier I was already moving him out of the scummy zone. Also he is a town-leaning null read not a townread So you'd rather kill your town read than the person you think is useless?
Look at it from my perspective. I come back around lynchtime see a martyr vote and go hmm this is much more likely to come from a townie instead of a scum person. This means that malongo is a townleaning nullread, not a townread. I try to get people to switch on rayn since I also don't want to lynch artanis who was a null read.
Nobody seems willing to switch, at that time we have like 6 on malongo and 4 on artanis and I am not having a foolproof 100% townread on malongo, so I go meh, probably a mislynch but at least it is not on one of my higher townreads and while malongo might be town, he is/was not really useful so I did not object strongly to the lynch after seeing that it is probably between artanis or malongo. Malongo was scummy before the martyr thing, that made him a good deal townier but finally still a nullread(although leaning town). Artanis was just null. I want to kill rayn, not going to happen so fine then kill one of the others it matters not much to me as my single vote was not enough to switch things.
If you believe me to be scummy for this then feel free to do so. I did not like either of the two offered lynches so I became kind of detached and did not really care. But I do implore you to start differentiating when I say townleaning null read and townread, it is a huge deal to me.
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10 hours and 9 minutes left on those night actions.
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I really really really want to lynch rayn. He comes out as scum with Artanis' lynch considering that he defended him so heavily.
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Still catching up on the thread, so give me some time to read.
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Shall I say something stupid so the thread can explode again?
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Hey guys, I just won the game for town. Here are my chats with Z-Boson.
Z-BosoN
07-26-2013
03:51 PM ET (US)
Fuck it
This game is lost to us anyways
scum team is me and rayn.
If you really are traitor, do just that. Prob bus rayn is good, since you are already pushing him.
If you are bluffing, well, gj, at least this game ends faster 
#yolo
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FirmTofuPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2013
03:42 PM ET (US)
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Okay, I'm starting to get a feeling that you are scum. I'm going to take a leap of faith because this is my only chance to win.
I am the traitor. If I name 2 people in your scumteam, I can join it. Right now, I'm fairly confident that it's you and stutters. I'm more confident in you than stutters.
If you are scum, tell me. I can join your team tonight.
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FirmTofuPerson was signed in when posted
07-26-2013
03:38 PM ET (US)
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Are you scum? Be honest. If so, this game is about to get very interesting.
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Here is our (mine and Koshi's) logs+ Show Spoiler +35
Koshi
07-26-2013
05:11 AM ET (US)
yay for us!
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Lazermonkey
07-25-2013
06:25 PM ET (US)
We really should kill Artanis I think...
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Lazermonkey
07-25-2013
04:39 PM ET (US)
Not bad, scum...
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Lazermonkey
07-25-2013
04:31 PM ET (US)
Artanis... sooo bad.
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Lazermonkey
07-25-2013
03:53 PM ET (US)
Sorry I am a bit late : (. Actually nvm I think you are town after reading throuhg that section once again. very unlikely that scum would do something like that and I actually like your thoughts about artanis.
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Koshi
07-25-2013
03:18 PM ET (US)
Got any questions?
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Lazermonkey
07-25-2013
02:42 PM ET (US)
You are playing so fucking wierd I don't really know what to make of you. I'm ready for a chat in about 30 minutes I think...
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Koshi
07-25-2013
02:08 PM ET (US)
Or maybe I didn't. Seems like I wrote the message in the thread first. 2 mins earlier.
Oh well.
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Koshi
07-25-2013
02:05 PM ET (US)
lol. It pays off to be a drama queen.
Just for the record. I wrote down the m25 before going crazy in chat :D, you can check that.
I had a feeling people would be mad if I posted that.
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Lazermonkey
07-25-2013
01:25 PM ET (US)
Hmm, why is both artanis and sylencia so reluctant to kill each other? Correct play, no matter what alignment, would probably be to kill each other. It will save us a misslynch pretty much : DEdited 07-25-2013 01:26 PM
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Koshi
07-25-2013
12:06 PM ET (US)
I want to vote artanis today. From my first read I found FT to look town, I still believe that.Edited 07-25-2013 12:06 PM
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Koshi
07-24-2013
04:39 PM ET (US)
I agree that Stutters is not scumhunting. But he is not doing anything scummy except for that.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
04:01 PM ET (US)
Also, you don't even comment on stutters play. Sure, maybe he played bad that one game. Maybe he is really bad as town. Maybe not. But what do YOU think about him?
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
03:45 PM ET (US)
I'm not talking about being "not agressive", I'm talking about not scum hunting.
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Koshi
07-24-2013
03:39 PM ET (US)
I played with Stutters in Nuclear. He isn't aggressive at all, and an easy scapegoat. He was bad for town that game.
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Koshi
07-24-2013
03:37 PM ET (US)
I added some color in the thread. You can read it there.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
03:33 PM ET (US)
I'm getting more and more wary of stutters. he seems generally uninterested in finding scum it seems but is trying to appear contributing by posting dumbass policy shit. what's your take on him.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
03:31 PM ET (US)
Where?
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Koshi
07-24-2013
03:28 PM ET (US)
I think I gave more reasons.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
03:26 PM ET (US)
So you think he is scum because he says firmtofu and sylencia is scum? By that logic I am scum as well. But you say I'm null. I'm confused...
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Koshi
07-24-2013
03:24 PM ET (US)
I would kill Rayn. I already gave the reasons.
I don't have clear reads yet, always takes me a while to get in the game.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
03:19 PM ET (US)
Prehaps so but there was a long long time before dead line. and IIRC there were people who disagreed with the suspicions on FT so why did you feel the need to defend him so early? Why not let him do that himself? What do you think about FT then? still null? Do you really not think his actions are alignment indicative at all?
Who would you like to kill the most at the moment? And explain WHY you want to that person!
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Koshi
07-24-2013
03:14 PM ET (US)
I had 2 problems with this game after reading it.
1) Tofu was getting too easily wagoned. I pointed out 2 people I felt did that.
2) I don't like Rayn saying he is now suspicious of FirmTofu or Sylencia. His previous voting for ShiaoPi and harddefending the Kenpachi thing is something I don't approve but dont know if it is scummy.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
03:05 PM ET (US)
Where are you???
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
02:36 PM ET (US)
So, I'm here right now : ). But why did you say that shit about my post then?
Rayn looks kinda bad because of kenpachi thing and how he failed hard to argue under pressure. But I recently played a game with Rayn where he had 15 page filter after 72 hours of the game. That kind of activity you just don't have as scum. I'll let him post some more tomorrow and see where it leads us.
Also, you opinion!Edited 07-24-2013 02:37 PM
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Koshi
07-24-2013
02:21 PM ET (US)
We have different views. I don't know if you are scum/tow. Null to me.
I am looking at rayn. Your opinion on him?
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
02:16 PM ET (US)
Oki, I'm semi here for some time, in a few minutes I'll be more active!
What is your stance on me?
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Koshi
07-24-2013
02:06 PM ET (US)
You got questions? I am on/off
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Koshi
07-24-2013
01:24 PM ET (US)
I always seem to look scummy on day 1, a bit like FimrTofu.
I don't see any reasons except that silly kenpachi crap why FT is scum this game.
I do see a lot of people jumping on the FT wagon for only that reason. Which I find strange. Which I pointed out.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
12:17 PM ET (US)
Lol.
Okey, I'm ready for a chat in a bit, you? Like in 2 hours maybe?
I needed to get discusion going somewhere. Policy talk weren't productive at all. Now we at least got something to talk about. And I do think what FT did is scummy. Not OMGUSCUM-scummy but still scummy. I'm happy with my vote on him for the time being. Now, I was actually just about to post a bit on why I think you look wierd i the thread but I'll save it for some time, will go and eat some dinner soon. Anyway, you are being quite unclear with your motives this far I feel. You are really just fluffing it up hard core. Sure scum could've started the kenpachi discussion but is it likely? Sure Artanis could both be scum and town. But where are your conclusions? Do you mean that Artanis is scum? Do you mean that scum did start the kenpachi discussion? And I don't get the part on me. Do you think I'm scummy? why? Why so defensive of Sylencia and FT? Why not pursue your own scum reads instead?
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Koshi
07-24-2013
10:01 AM ET (US)
So why are you targeting FT so harshly?
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Koshi
07-24-2013
09:11 AM ET (US)
Oh you are from Sweden. That's perfect.
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Koshi
07-24-2013
09:05 AM ET (US)
Hi.
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Lazermonkey
07-24-2013
03:47 AM ET (US)
Howdy!
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CorazonPerson was signed in when posted
07-23-2013
09:45 AM ET (US)
Mason Pair #5. You are allowed to say as little or as much as you want, and you are allowed to change your name on QT to remain anonymous. As long as it is allowed in the thread, it is allowed here. QT messages may be copied and pasted onto the thread. Have fun!
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HAHA, that is sooo hillarious. Such big plays XD
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P.S. I lied about being traitor.
Scumteam is Z-Boson and rayn.
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aww man, way to get my hopes up 
GG and nice bluff
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GG Boson, I didn't actually think you were scum.
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On July 26 2013 23:29 Koshi wrote:
My favorite lynch targets:
1. Raynpelikoneet (Chaotic wrong)
2. Z-BosoN (Lawful wrong)
3. Stutters695 (Neutral wrong)
Just saying. I knew it.
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Damn. This was such a perfect game
Great people in it.
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EPT
