On July 27 2013 05:38 FirmTofu wrote: I don't know. This is what I think is the most likely explanation of the events.
Why would I accuse you if I were scum? That would be really bad scum play, too. cDg, what do you think the most likely scumteam is? Who is your #1 lynch target?
My #1 lynch target is swinging between jrkirby and you. I'm still mulling it over.
On July 27 2013 05:38 FirmTofu wrote: I don't know. This is what I think is the most likely explanation of the events.
Why would I accuse you if I were scum? That would be really bad scum play, too. cDg, what do you think the most likely scumteam is? Who is your #1 lynch target?
My #1 lynch target is swinging between jrkirby and you. I'm still mulling it over.
Okay, but what pairings? Obviously, you probably don't think kirby is on my team, so who DO you think is on my team? Also, if kirby is scum, who do you think his teammate is?
I'm still thinking about it. We have a long time for a lynch so I will continue to think about it.
I just want to let everyone know that I'm still here. I've had a really busy day and I'm distracted by RL issues but I am trying to read and comprehend things. I probably will not post until I wake up tomorrow. Sorry =(
I've come to the conclusion that although I really want to OMGUS and vote for FirmTofu, I just think he is making a bad case. I really think jrkirby has played ridiculously scummier than FirmTofu, and I really want to see him dead.
And before you say this is the first time I've mentioned jrkirby, read my filter.
##Vote: jrkirby
Also Vivax, I'm either scummy or I'm not. You either vote for me or you don't talk about me. All of the points you have brought up have been brought up a million times and I'm still not dead so that should say something to you.
On July 28 2013 06:01 FiveTouch wrote: 3 seems more reasonable than 4 to me..but I honestly can't separate confirmation bias from my perspective so take that for what it's worth.
If Cora is scum, that would make Marv and I paranoid, with a naive FT and a sane Getmo. I can see that as likely, and taken with Cora's claim of being an Investigator rather than Detective....
But if Cora is scum and jrk his partner, why not claim a check on him that could keep him from being the lynch today?
:/
I still like jrk for scum.
If you guys lynch me due to host failure I'm going to be really sad.
On July 28 2013 06:01 FiveTouch wrote: 3 seems more reasonable than 4 to me..but I honestly can't separate confirmation bias from my perspective so take that for what it's worth.
If Cora is scum, that would make Marv and I paranoid, with a naive FT and a sane Getmo. I can see that as likely, and taken with Cora's claim of being an Investigator rather than Detective....
But if Cora is scum and jrk his partner, why not claim a check on him that could keep him from being the lynch today?
:/
I still like jrk for scum.
Have you considered that Cora and TG are scum? This is what I think the scumteam is.
At first I thought you weren't using your brain, but now you're just being scummy.
On July 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote: BTW, is it weird that FirmTofu's claim only comes after jrkirby gets 2 votes in quick succession? That's pretty convenient...
Are you implying that kirby and I are on a team? Kirby, the guy I have been pushing for the majority of this game.
On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,
If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.
But if FirmTofu is fakeclaiming, he could just say he got back investigator.
On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,
If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.
Instead of all of us wasting our checks... why don't we lynch Cora and see what our cop sanity is based on his flip? that way we'll know whether the two cops can find scum the following night.
It's a win-win.
Why don't we lynch the fake-claiming scum member? The fact that you only want to lynch me for info is pretty scummy, man.
On July 28 2013 06:13 FirmTofu wrote: vivax, are you out there? Can you vote today? Do you think TG/Cora is a likely scum team? Why or why not?
I posted the part I found iffy about Cora's claim alreadz. I also voted, TG. Kirby does look odd and I found him mainly scummy for his position on the TAA wagon, if he is though, then he has been bussed, which fits into the way the DrH slot played, first push him, find a reason to shoot someone else, then push him again. I don't find DrH's slots' reasons for his read 180s very credible.
Your DT checks tell us nothing, DT should have stayed silent until he had a chance to check somebody else he was sure of being town. Now we don't know if he's insane or paranoid.
Thing is though, Cora's claim timing was scummy and looked like it was designed to save TAA, again, sub-optimal play for a DT to claim in that situation in any case. He should have kept the role secret and watched how the flip went, and then adjust his scumreads accordingly without using his role as a reason, but meh, doesn't really matter anymore.
That leads us to Cora still being alive after his claim, I don't know his checks atm, but I've gotten from the thread that he's supposedly sane?That leads us to the question why scum would leave him alive then. Cause of that, I'd probably not lynch him today and consider him for lynch if he survives another night and depending on the check he returns. Lucky for us, he can't claim RB.
As conclusion, I stick to the opinion that we should lynch TG for being alive after D1, I'm suspicious of DrH's behavior during that day, and anyone not wanting to lynch TGis banking on the fact that a flipped scum somehow missed the deadline, and not just that, cause TG's lynch wasn't exactly last minute shit.
Question: Who replaced Zephirdd? I didn't like his last post during D1.
I replaced Zephirdd. How the hell is my claim timing scummy? I claimed literally because I couldn't believe getmoript would have the same role as me. sure it's stupid, but it's not scummy...
On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,
If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.
Instead of all of us wasting our checks... why don't we lynch Cora and see what our cop sanity is based on his flip? that way we'll know whether the two cops can find scum the following night.
It's a win-win.
Why don't we lynch the fake-claiming scum member? The fact that you only want to lynch me for info is pretty scummy, man.
You still haven't explained why you think I'm fake-claiming. I mean, to you, I should be just as likely a fake-claimer as 5T. The only difference being that people might actually vote me.
On July 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote: BTW, is it weird that FirmTofu's claim only comes after jrkirby gets 2 votes in quick succession? That's pretty convenient...
On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,
If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.
Instead of all of us wasting our checks... why don't we lynch Cora and see what our cop sanity is based on his flip? that way we'll know whether the two cops can find scum the following night.
It's a win-win.
Why don't we lynch the fake-claiming scum member? The fact that you only want to lynch me for info is pretty scummy, man.
You still haven't explained why you think I'm fake-claiming. I mean, to you, I should be just as likely a fake-claimer as 5T. The only difference being that people might actually vote me.
On July 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote: BTW, is it weird that FirmTofu's claim only comes after jrkirby gets 2 votes in quick succession? That's pretty convenient...
So your whole case against me rests on the timing. Holy hypocrisy. You think the timing of your claim isn't scummy when it brought getmoript's claim and accusation of TAA into question, but when I claim as kirby is gaining votes, I'm suddenly scum?
I was counter-claiming Getmoript. I literally did it about 2 minutes after his claim. You're saying that you are trying to counter-claim me 2 DAYS after my claim.
It's also pretty scummy that you refuse to lynch the guy you've wanted dead for the entire game and would rather vote for me.
My question to you is: do you want to lynch Kirby? Why or why not?
On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote: How do you like this claim, Cora?
He's lying. I'm a detective.
Are you serious?
Are you sane? (as in, cop sane)
I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane.
A few things about you, Cora.
- You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment. - In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit. - When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs.
My role pm is the same as Getmoript's and the hosts basically said that I couldn't check myself for sanity and they just gave me back a non-alignment check (investiagtor worded exactly like that). So I said I was a role cop. Then I checked TG and then it came back as Town.
The hosts basically screwed me over, and if you want to lynch me I will blame them.
On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote: How do you like this claim, Cora?
He's lying. I'm a detective.
Are you serious?
Are you sane? (as in, cop sane)
I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane.
A few things about you, Cora.
- You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment. - In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit. - When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs.
My role pm is the same as Getmoript's and the hosts basically said that I couldn't check myself for sanity and they just gave me back a non-alignment check (investiagtor worded exactly like that). So I said I was a role cop. Then I checked TG and then it came back as Town.
The hosts basically screwed me over, and if you want to lynch me I will blame them.
That's cool and all, but it still doesn't answer the question why you claimed that geript was lying about being an alignment cop when at the time you had to believe you were a rolecop, making getmo's cop claim not as incredible as you claim you thought it was.
Like, I understand you can't answer it, cause the point makes you look like scum regardless, but it's a valid point in arguing that you actually just fakeclaimed to save TAA.
Other than that, I'm curious to hear from your mouth that you think that TG wasn't lynched only cause scum played badly or was afk.
BECAUSE WHY ARE 2 TOWN COPS IN A SETUP COMMON. Use your damn brain and put yourself in my shoes Vivax.
On July 23 2013 05:04 cDgCorazon wrote: Ok so I read everyone's filter and I've come up with a few opinions:
-TG should've been lynched D1. Like seriously. His game has been ridiculously scummy and he should've been lynched for it.
-DrH did cause a no-lynch so I think that should against him, but he should not be instantly beheaded for it. That being said, I really do want to hear more from him.
-Everyone has been too spammy in their posts, and there has not been enough analysis. Only 2 or 3 players have been providing good analysis on a constant basis. In an environment like this, scum are going to thrive. Everyone needs to step up so scum have nowhere to hide.
If anyone wants opinions on specific things, just ask.
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