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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 30 2013 20:29 GMT
#2501
Why the hell can't I find fivetouch's cop claim? I'm trying to see if tofu's claim came before or after, but reading through the last couple pages of 5T's filter I can't find it.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 30 2013 20:32 GMT
#2502
On July 31 2013 05:29 jrkirby wrote:
Why the hell can't I find fivetouch's cop claim? I'm trying to see if tofu's claim came before or after, but reading through the last couple pages of 5T's filter I can't find it.
Tofu claimed before. I've talked about it like 100 times.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 30 2013 20:36 GMT
#2503
Why the hell can't I find it though, I know I've seen it before, but I can not find it in the last couple pages of his filter.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 30 2013 20:42 GMT
#2504
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=102#2027
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 30 2013 20:47 GMT
#2505
I don't know why I didn't see that, I swear I read that exact post like 20 times. I must have terrible reading comprehension.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 30 2013 20:57 GMT
#2506
Well, if I can't convice Tofu and onegu to vote vivax, it ain't gonna happen. Right now I'm predicting they'll stay on me till the end, vivax and JJD will hop on sometime before the deadline and then GG will happen.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:01 GMT
#2507
On July 31 2013 05:57 jrkirby wrote:
Well, if I can't convice Tofu and onegu to vote vivax, it ain't gonna happen. Right now I'm predicting they'll stay on me till the end, vivax and JJD will hop on sometime before the deadline and then GG will happen.


Lol. U realize we don't have to hop on anything before deadline, cause it's me and JJD on you and not FT and Onegu?
What does FT's claim have anything to do with Ft's claim?It's the same reasoning you use, that there has to be a type of cop of each kind.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:01 GMT
#2508
There we go with the FT fun.

I guess you know what I mean
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:06 GMT
#2509
Meh, I confused shit.
Totally thought we were voting kirby now lol.

JJD, I don't know if I want to stay awake through all of this to cinvince Onegu and Ft to switch to TG since they still aren't here, you think we should risk it and switch back to kirby?

This exchange right now didn't leave me with a good feeling on him at all.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#2510
Hey, look at this guys.

On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop?

Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles?
How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity?

I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist.

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction.

I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts.



Our claimed cop who got green on TAA says that town should not lynch TAA purely based on getmo's cop claim, but still lists him among his scumreads.

Bullshit detected.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 30 2013 21:17 GMT
#2511
On July 31 2013 06:14 Vivax wrote:
Hey, look at this guys.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop?

Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles?
How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity?

I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist.

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction.

I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts.



Our claimed cop who got green on TAA says that town should not lynch TAA purely based on getmo's cop claim, but still lists him among his scumreads.

Bullshit detected.
Oh wow. Now I have to reread some more. The fact that tofu he hasn't responded to our switch to TG is kind of concerning.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:18 GMT
#2512
Oh wait he actually corrected it.

On July 24 2013 07:45 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 07:22 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Ok I'm with you...

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

What in the actual fuck?

Sorry, I meant CDG not TAA. These acronyms are confusing the fuck out of me.


Now go through his filter and see for yourself if he had cDg, the cop who just claimed, as suspect earlier. I don't find anything of the sort.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 30 2013 21:21 GMT
#2513
Oh yeah we knew he corrected it. heh, I think I jumped on him for the same reason.

Still would like to hear from him though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#2514
It's a hard knot to unwind.

Basically, Tofu knew two townies were claiming cop at the same time, during that moment. If he didn't, then I would assume this quote would actually free him from all accusations:

On July 24 2013 07:56 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 07:54 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote:
While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.

Explain this right now.

I think it's possible that you are VT claiming cop in order to push your strongest scumread. Am I right?


But on the other hand, if scum got fakeclaims, then they also knew there were sanities in the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#2515
On July 24 2013 07:57 FirmTofu wrote:
If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. If you want me to vote for anyone other than TG or jrkirby today, you're going to have to make a really solid case against them and convince me.


This, on the other hand, makes him look a lot better.

Might not be bad to take the leap of faith and vote kirby at this point, cause so far him and TG seem to be the most likely combo.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 30 2013 21:26 GMT
#2516
On July 31 2013 06:01 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 05:57 jrkirby wrote:
Well, if I can't convice Tofu and onegu to vote vivax, it ain't gonna happen. Right now I'm predicting they'll stay on me till the end, vivax and JJD will hop on sometime before the deadline and then GG will happen.


Lol. U realize we don't have to hop on anything before deadline, cause it's me and JJD on you and not FT and Onegu?
What does FT's claim have anything to do with Ft's claim?It's the same reasoning you use, that there has to be a type of cop of each kind.


What? Tofu and Onegu are currently voting for me, right?

Also, Tofu's claim is more believable since it came before 5t said "We probably have 4 cops."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#2517
On July 31 2013 06:26 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 06:01 Vivax wrote:
On July 31 2013 05:57 jrkirby wrote:
Well, if I can't convice Tofu and onegu to vote vivax, it ain't gonna happen. Right now I'm predicting they'll stay on me till the end, vivax and JJD will hop on sometime before the deadline and then GG will happen.


Lol. U realize we don't have to hop on anything before deadline, cause it's me and JJD on you and not FT and Onegu?
What does FT's claim have anything to do with Ft's claim?It's the same reasoning you use, that there has to be a type of cop of each kind.


What? Tofu and Onegu are currently voting for me, right?

Also, Tofu's claim is more believable since it came before 5t said "We probably have 4 cops."


Ok, I think this is something I can fry you on cause it could be confirmation bias from a scum knowing that FT is town.

Can you explain to me exactly how that is supposed to make Tofu's claim more credible?
Are you saying that it would have been less credible if it came afterwards?Why?
Would it be more credible if no one claimed after him? Why?
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 30 2013 21:30 GMT
#2518
Also, didn't everyone think it was Corazon and TG together last night? And now Corazon flipped town, you still think it's TG? At least Tofu thought this.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:36 GMT
#2519
The biggest mindfuck in this game is that a jrkirby scum means two scum somehow managed to leave TG alive D1.
I'm not sure if I really want to believe that it makes TG autoscum any more.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 30 2013 21:37 GMT
#2520
Anyway, I switched back to kirby.
I'm actually not feeling confident into my JJD read like that until I've read all of his filter.
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