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On July 28 2013 07:22 Vivax wrote:
Cora. Need you to tell me why you wanted TG lynched, and why you trust your check so much in light of sanities and host mistakes that you abruptly stopped pursuing him.
If you're town, calm down and tell me how likely you think that the scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby, cause if you're town and assuming there's so many scum, that's my conclusion with my current knowledge and suspects, and there is no reason for you to start capsraging at me for being suspicious of a claim that has multiple issues.
Vivax, the reason I'm treating you this way is because you are not reading. I'm only going to answer your questions if you have read my filter. Have you? I'm not your bitch and I'm not going to get the damn posts for you. I've explained my TG read and I've explained my other reads. The fact that you think that my proposed scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby basically says to me that you have not read my filter and that you are making an uninformed and therefore bad attack on me.
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On July 28 2013 07:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote + I've explained my TG read and I've explained my other reads. The fact that you think that my proposed scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby basically says to me that you have not read my filter and that you are making an uninformed and therefore bad attack on me. Actually, that's my proposed scumteam, not yours. Anyway, I'm all ears and would like to see where you explained your TG read. My current knowledge is that townies like to talk about their scumreads, and don't have much trouble remembering their reasons for suspecting them.
Read my filter Vivax. That's all I'm going to say.
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Vivax votes me without reading my filter... -slow claps-
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On July 28 2013 08:24 Vivax wrote:
Corazon, honey, what exactly did I miss in your filter that you're so worked up about cause I missed it?
Can you please please point me to it, for the benefit of town and cause you're such an awesome person and cause you don't want me to be suspicious of you when there's no need to?
I'm not your bitch. Read it.
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On July 26 2013 12:43 cDgCorazon wrote:Stop tunneling Oats. With TG's latest posting and your continued lack of effort, my order of scum reads just might be a-changin'.Brb looking for Oats-TAA interaction.
On July 27 2013 00:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
So I'm really not sure as to who I want to lynch today. I'm confused between JJD, TG, and jrkirby.
TG's latest posting has been really good and he has started to make up for his really crappy D1 with decent analysis and is starting to scum hunt more. With his green check and my unknown sanity, I'd like to keep him around.
Reading
a good skill toi have
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And also Vivax, fuck you. Don't just come here and call me and unhelpful bastard when you fucking don't read and don't catch up to the thread and suddenly attack me once FirmTofu's silly attempt to discredit me went astray. (Btw, he's not here. Coincidence?).
You're acting like an asshole and I don't fucking appreciate it. At this point, I don't care if you all vote me out. As long as I don't have to deal with this asshole again, I don't really care.
Bye. See you all after the deadline, if I'm still alive.
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On July 28 2013 08:55 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 08:54 TanGeng wrote:
@Corazon
Do I have your vote for FirmTofu? Are you locked in? Yes.
Well great...
Yes.
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On July 28 2013 08:58 TanGeng wrote:Ok, Same exercise for you as well if you want to: (remember Vivax replaced austinmcc) The read austinmcc filter part. Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 08:32 TanGeng wrote:@Corazon Have time to read austinmcc's filter? Look after you read his filter. I here's what I came away with: + Show Spoiler +
Day 1
Defends TAA pushes oats
Defends TAA again
Defends Tofu pushes Oats and zephr
Defends TAA again.
Pushes me.
Pushes me.
Pushes me.
Pushes me.
Night 2
Buddies FiveTouch.
Sets Day 2 agenda.
Scum NK is Rayn who was pushing for Tofu lynch.
Day 2
Pushes me.
Pushes me.
Observes for TAA lynch.
Watches Tofu get into trouble.
Serves up an exit strategy to Tofu on a silver platter in a really fake scripted sequence that seems to be produced straight out of scum QT.
Serves up a link to an example where a muddled guy was town.
Talks about being confused about Tofu.
Pushes me.
Pushes me.
Night 2
Pushes me.
Pushes me.
Goes back to defending Tofu.
Goes into Anybody But Tofu mode even casting doubt on FiveTouch.
Can you think of a scenario where this behavior can be explained and Tofu and austin aren't scumbuddies with TAA?
I'm going to read it after the flip. I'm too frustrated to do anything right now.
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Oh also, my last will (in case you decide to vote me off):
Vivax is just not using his brain
FirmTofu is scum
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On July 28 2013 13:54 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 13:52 TanGeng wrote:On July 28 2013 13:51 FirmTofu wrote:
How about this? If I'm wrong about Cora, you can always lynch me the following day. That would save us from lylo and give us enough of a shot to catch the last scum based on the flip.
But seriously, cDg is scum. Why not the other way around. Lynch you today and Cora tomorrow. Because a lynch on Cora wouldn't be as guarunteed as a lynch on me. There aren't as many people convinced that Cora is scum.
I'm literally posting this one thing and then going to sleep.
This is a 100% scum answer. If FirmTofu was town, he would be ok with being lynched in order to prove his point. It's already been figured out that we have room for mislynches. He only says this because he wants to survive. Guess who only cares about surviving? Scum.
It also says something that TG has poked a billion holes in FirmTofu's argument and FirmTofu refuses to address them in any way whatsoever.
That's the last of me. I'm going to bed. Make the right decision.
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-Slow Claps-
Fuck you Vivax.
GG
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Ok, so now that the game is over, I want to explain why I was screwed over by the hosts.
I asked Phagga if I could check myself N1. I had replaced in and only had like 6 hours to make reads and decide who to check. I decided a check on myself for sanity would be a good idea. So I did it, and I got back Investigator. So I assume I was a rolecop (because my role PM was not specific on what kind of cop I was).
So D2 happened and I went to check TanGeng, and he came back town. I was really pissed. Here's my exchange with Phagga:
+ Show Spoiler +Original Message From phagga: The PM does not say anything about the brain. Look, these are the rules. If you don't like it, we can gladly discuss it after the game is over. Just know that I checked with Bluelightz N1 before sending you your results, which means that all results so far are according to the rules Bluelightz has set out, and not an error from our side. Show nested quote +Original Message From cDgCorazon: I'm not objectively investigating myself. My equipment was objectively investigating me. Since my equipment does not have a mind of it's own, I was checking it to see if it was functioning properly. My role pm said my brain was fine, just the equipment I was using may or may not be broken. Therefore, I should have been able to deduce my sanity from checking myself. Original Message From phagga: That would depend on your sanity. However, you cannot get your sanity back by checking yourself. How can you objectively investigate yourself? It does not make sense. So you get the only information back that you are sure of: That you are a Detective. Original Message From cDgCorazon: No, my first check should've come back "town" because I am town. Original Message From phagga: We are not bastard hosts. You're first check came back as "Detective" because you checked yourself, your second one comes back like an alignement cop because you ARE an alignement cop. Original Message From cDgCorazon: Are you guys bastard hosts? Why did my first check come back like a rolecop and my second one come back like an alignment cop? Original Message From phagga: Your investigation returns TownOriginal Message From cDgCorazon:
Haha I'm really sorry, but I want to check TanGeng this time. And I'm serious this is the last time I will change it.
As you can see, since I was in fact an alignment cop, I should have come back town to myself. Not even because the wording of my role pm says that should happen, it would be very balanced for a detective to sacrifice one check to have some sort of clue what his sanity was.
The fact that Bluelightz and Phagga decided N1 that I was a rolecop and N2 that I was an alignment cop really screwed me over and was a vital part in the reasoning I got lynched (besides the fact that Vivax is a complete asshole). I'm definitely not playing another game hosted by Bluelightz again, and I wouldn't have replaced in knowing I was dealing with bastard hosts.
You guys say what you want, but that's how I feel about it.
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On July 31 2013 15:29 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 15:24 cDgCorazon wrote:Ok, so now that the game is over, I want to explain why I was screwed over by the hosts. I asked Phagga if I could check myself N1. I had replaced in and only had like 6 hours to make reads and decide who to check. I decided a check on myself for sanity would be a good idea. So I did it, and I got back Investigator. So I assume I was a rolecop (because my role PM was not specific on what kind of cop I was). So D2 happened and I went to check TanGeng, and he came back town. I was really pissed. Here's my exchange with Phagga: + Show Spoiler +Original Message From phagga: The PM does not say anything about the brain. Look, these are the rules. If you don't like it, we can gladly discuss it after the game is over. Just know that I checked with Bluelightz N1 before sending you your results, which means that all results so far are according to the rules Bluelightz has set out, and not an error from our side. Show nested quote +Original Message From cDgCorazon: I'm not objectively investigating myself. My equipment was objectively investigating me. Since my equipment does not have a mind of it's own, I was checking it to see if it was functioning properly. My role pm said my brain was fine, just the equipment I was using may or may not be broken. Therefore, I should have been able to deduce my sanity from checking myself. Original Message From phagga: That would depend on your sanity. However, you cannot get your sanity back by checking yourself. How can you objectively investigate yourself? It does not make sense. So you get the only information back that you are sure of: That you are a Detective. Original Message From cDgCorazon: No, my first check should've come back "town" because I am town. Original Message From phagga: We are not bastard hosts. You're first check came back as "Detective" because you checked yourself, your second one comes back like an alignement cop because you ARE an alignement cop. Original Message From cDgCorazon: Are you guys bastard hosts? Why did my first check come back like a rolecop and my second one come back like an alignment cop? Original Message From phagga: Your investigation returns TownOriginal Message From cDgCorazon:
Haha I'm really sorry, but I want to check TanGeng this time. And I'm serious this is the last time I will change it. As you can see, since I was in fact an alignment cop, I should have come back town to myself. Not even because the wording of my role pm says that should happen, it would be very balanced for a detective to sacrifice one check to have some sort of clue what his sanity was. The fact that Bluelightz and Phagga decided N1 that I was a rolecop and N2 that I was an alignment cop really screwed me over and was a vital part in the reasoning I got lynched (besides the fact that Vivax is a complete asshole). I'm definitely not playing another game hosted by Bluelightz again, and I wouldn't have replaced in knowing I was dealing with bastard hosts. You guys say what you want, but that's how I feel about it. Oh Bullshit, you got back Detective, not Investigator. Don't tell me you are making all this fuss because you can't read your fucking PM. + Show Spoiler +
Your investigation (on yourself) returns Detective.
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Ok I would like to check myself, and if I can't do that I will check Oats. Thanks ^^
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Original Message From phagga:
I have forwarded the question to Bluelightz, as I'm unsure on how he planned it.
You can send me a second, alternative action in case that he does not allow it like 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Am I allowed to check myself?
Original Message From phagga:
Thanks a lot! here is your role. I'll make a an announcement in thread now, have fun playing!
Welcome, cDgCorazon to A Bluelightz mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results!
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Nope I haven't gotten a message from him. I'll replace in.
Original Message From phagga:
You are signed up as replacement in Bluelightz Mafia. It is currently N1, would you be interested in replacing in? Deadline is 08:00 CEST (+02:00).
It is possible that Bluelightz already sent you a message. However, I'm his cohost and have not heard from him for over 24 hours despite sending him several PMs, so I'm currently preparing for the worst.
Fuck you Phagga. That's not even the point. Why are you dodging the real issue? The fact is that since I was a sane cop, I should have gotten a town check back on myself. You and Bluelightz are fucking bastard hosts and fucking tricked me into thinking I was a rolecop, which looked really scummy when I had to say that I was actually an alignment cop. It's fucking bullshit and you know it.
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On July 31 2013 15:36 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 15:30 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 31 2013 15:29 phagga wrote:On July 31 2013 15:24 cDgCorazon wrote:Ok, so now that the game is over, I want to explain why I was screwed over by the hosts. I asked Phagga if I could check myself N1. I had replaced in and only had like 6 hours to make reads and decide who to check. I decided a check on myself for sanity would be a good idea. So I did it, and I got back Investigator. So I assume I was a rolecop (because my role PM was not specific on what kind of cop I was). So D2 happened and I went to check TanGeng, and he came back town. I was really pissed. Here's my exchange with Phagga: + Show Spoiler +Original Message From phagga: The PM does not say anything about the brain. Look, these are the rules. If you don't like it, we can gladly discuss it after the game is over. Just know that I checked with Bluelightz N1 before sending you your results, which means that all results so far are according to the rules Bluelightz has set out, and not an error from our side. Show nested quote +Original Message From cDgCorazon: I'm not objectively investigating myself. My equipment was objectively investigating me. Since my equipment does not have a mind of it's own, I was checking it to see if it was functioning properly. My role pm said my brain was fine, just the equipment I was using may or may not be broken. Therefore, I should have been able to deduce my sanity from checking myself. Original Message From phagga: That would depend on your sanity. However, you cannot get your sanity back by checking yourself. How can you objectively investigate yourself? It does not make sense. So you get the only information back that you are sure of: That you are a Detective. Original Message From cDgCorazon: No, my first check should've come back "town" because I am town. Original Message From phagga: We are not bastard hosts. You're first check came back as "Detective" because you checked yourself, your second one comes back like an alignement cop because you ARE an alignement cop. Original Message From cDgCorazon: Are you guys bastard hosts? Why did my first check come back like a rolecop and my second one come back like an alignment cop? Original Message From phagga: Your investigation returns TownOriginal Message From cDgCorazon:
Haha I'm really sorry, but I want to check TanGeng this time. And I'm serious this is the last time I will change it. As you can see, since I was in fact an alignment cop, I should have come back town to myself. Not even because the wording of my role pm says that should happen, it would be very balanced for a detective to sacrifice one check to have some sort of clue what his sanity was. The fact that Bluelightz and Phagga decided N1 that I was a rolecop and N2 that I was an alignment cop really screwed me over and was a vital part in the reasoning I got lynched (besides the fact that Vivax is a complete asshole). I'm definitely not playing another game hosted by Bluelightz again, and I wouldn't have replaced in knowing I was dealing with bastard hosts. You guys say what you want, but that's how I feel about it. Oh Bullshit, you got back Detective, not Investigator. Don't tell me you are making all this fuss because you can't read your fucking PM. + Show Spoiler +
Your investigation (on yourself) returns Detective.
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Ok I would like to check myself, and if I can't do that I will check Oats. Thanks ^^
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Original Message From phagga:
I have forwarded the question to Bluelightz, as I'm unsure on how he planned it.
You can send me a second, alternative action in case that he does not allow it like 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Am I allowed to check myself?
Original Message From phagga:
Thanks a lot! here is your role. I'll make a an announcement in thread now, have fun playing!
Welcome, cDgCorazon to A Bluelightz mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results!
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Nope I haven't gotten a message from him. I'll replace in.
Original Message From phagga:
You are signed up as replacement in Bluelightz Mafia. It is currently N1, would you be interested in replacing in? Deadline is 08:00 CEST (+02:00).
It is possible that Bluelightz already sent you a message. However, I'm his cohost and have not heard from him for over 24 hours despite sending him several PMs, so I'm currently preparing for the worst.
Fuck you Phagga. That's not even the point. Why are you dodging the real issue? The fact is that since I was a sane cop, I should have gotten a town check back on myself. You and Bluelightz are fucking bastard hosts and fucking tricked me into thinking I was a rolecop, which looked really scummy when I had to say that I was actually an alignment cop. It's fucking bullshit and you know it. This is your role PM, emphasis is mine: Show nested quote +
Welcome, Zephirdd to A Bluelightz Mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results!
I don't know how you could interpret this as role cop. Also, you got back "Detective", which is generally an alignement cop, not a role cop. If you were unsure on what role you had, why did you not ask?
Phagga.
Stop dodging the question.
My N1 check came back as a role, and my N2 check came back as an alignment. Now unless Detective was some sort of 3p, I should've either been a role cop or my check on myself should've come back town. Now stop dodging the question and give me an explanation of why one of my checks came back as a role and the other an alignment.
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On July 31 2013 15:41 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 15:38 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 31 2013 15:36 phagga wrote:On July 31 2013 15:30 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 31 2013 15:29 phagga wrote:On July 31 2013 15:24 cDgCorazon wrote:Ok, so now that the game is over, I want to explain why I was screwed over by the hosts. I asked Phagga if I could check myself N1. I had replaced in and only had like 6 hours to make reads and decide who to check. I decided a check on myself for sanity would be a good idea. So I did it, and I got back Investigator. So I assume I was a rolecop (because my role PM was not specific on what kind of cop I was). So D2 happened and I went to check TanGeng, and he came back town. I was really pissed. Here's my exchange with Phagga: + Show Spoiler +Original Message From phagga: The PM does not say anything about the brain. Look, these are the rules. If you don't like it, we can gladly discuss it after the game is over. Just know that I checked with Bluelightz N1 before sending you your results, which means that all results so far are according to the rules Bluelightz has set out, and not an error from our side. Show nested quote +Original Message From cDgCorazon: I'm not objectively investigating myself. My equipment was objectively investigating me. Since my equipment does not have a mind of it's own, I was checking it to see if it was functioning properly. My role pm said my brain was fine, just the equipment I was using may or may not be broken. Therefore, I should have been able to deduce my sanity from checking myself. Original Message From phagga: That would depend on your sanity. However, you cannot get your sanity back by checking yourself. How can you objectively investigate yourself? It does not make sense. So you get the only information back that you are sure of: That you are a Detective. Original Message From cDgCorazon: No, my first check should've come back "town" because I am town. Original Message From phagga: We are not bastard hosts. You're first check came back as "Detective" because you checked yourself, your second one comes back like an alignement cop because you ARE an alignement cop. Original Message From cDgCorazon: Are you guys bastard hosts? Why did my first check come back like a rolecop and my second one come back like an alignment cop? Original Message From phagga: Your investigation returns TownOriginal Message From cDgCorazon:
Haha I'm really sorry, but I want to check TanGeng this time. And I'm serious this is the last time I will change it. As you can see, since I was in fact an alignment cop, I should have come back town to myself. Not even because the wording of my role pm says that should happen, it would be very balanced for a detective to sacrifice one check to have some sort of clue what his sanity was. The fact that Bluelightz and Phagga decided N1 that I was a rolecop and N2 that I was an alignment cop really screwed me over and was a vital part in the reasoning I got lynched (besides the fact that Vivax is a complete asshole). I'm definitely not playing another game hosted by Bluelightz again, and I wouldn't have replaced in knowing I was dealing with bastard hosts. You guys say what you want, but that's how I feel about it. Oh Bullshit, you got back Detective, not Investigator. Don't tell me you are making all this fuss because you can't read your fucking PM. + Show Spoiler +
Your investigation (on yourself) returns Detective.
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Ok I would like to check myself, and if I can't do that I will check Oats. Thanks ^^
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Original Message From phagga:
I have forwarded the question to Bluelightz, as I'm unsure on how he planned it.
You can send me a second, alternative action in case that he does not allow it like 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Am I allowed to check myself?
Original Message From phagga:
Thanks a lot! here is your role. I'll make a an announcement in thread now, have fun playing!
Welcome, cDgCorazon to A Bluelightz mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results!
Original Message From cDgCorazon:
Nope I haven't gotten a message from him. I'll replace in.
Original Message From phagga:
You are signed up as replacement in Bluelightz Mafia. It is currently N1, would you be interested in replacing in? Deadline is 08:00 CEST (+02:00).
It is possible that Bluelightz already sent you a message. However, I'm his cohost and have not heard from him for over 24 hours despite sending him several PMs, so I'm currently preparing for the worst.
Fuck you Phagga. That's not even the point. Why are you dodging the real issue? The fact is that since I was a sane cop, I should have gotten a town check back on myself. You and Bluelightz are fucking bastard hosts and fucking tricked me into thinking I was a rolecop, which looked really scummy when I had to say that I was actually an alignment cop. It's fucking bullshit and you know it. This is your role PM, emphasis is mine:
Welcome, Zephirdd to A Bluelightz Mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results!
I don't know how you could interpret this as role cop. Also, you got back "Detective", which is generally an alignement cop, not a role cop. If you were unsure on what role you had, why did you not ask? Phagga. Stop dodging the question. My N1 check came back as a role, and my N2 check came back as an alignment. Now unless Detective was some sort of 3p, I should've either been a role cop or my check on myself should've come back town. Now stop dodging the question and give me an explanation of why one of my checks came back as a role and the other an alignment. I already answered that question in the PM you quoted. You can't get your sanity by checking yourself, that does not really make any sense.
Then why did you allow it? I asked for it.
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This game was a combination of bad setup, good mafia play, and bastard hosts. 2/3 things could've been controlled.
Oh well, now I know never to play a Bluelightz game again. GG
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Yeah Phagga I will give you some credit. Bluelightz kind of screwed you over and went afk. It's brave of you to take all of the heat for shit that wasn't entirely your fault. I'm sorry for being an asshole on my last few posts.
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I'd love to see Bluelightz stop hiding behind Phagga and actually talk about all this.
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On July 31 2013 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cora, you tried to game the setup.
You failed.
If I was "gaming the setup", why was I given the chance to do so?
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Ok well I'm going to bed but I'm going to lay out my questions for Bluelightz.
1. Did you get this setup checked?
2. Why did you let me check myself if it was against what was said in my role pm?
3. Why was I a rolecop one night and an alignment cop the next?
And talk about the DrH thing too. Idk what to ask specifically cause I missed it.
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