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On July 15 2013 07:36 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:30 Chromatically wrote:On July 15 2013 07:26 hzflank wrote:On July 15 2013 07:20 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 15 2013 07:16 Koshi wrote:Then why is Chroma defending him so hard? He is even making up fucking reasons. 1) Xzav lurked before suddenly jumping on him
2) Xzav read him as scum
3) Xzav hasn't contributed
4) Xzav lurked and then sheeped thread sentiment by voting for him
5) Gut read I am laughing so hard when I read these reasons after reading the super log over and over. Because he believes very strongly in his read. This is the towniest thing since Lord Patrick Townington went to townville. He doesn't have a self-preservation instinct because he's town, and not under suspicion. He can throw himself around with abandon like this because he has mental freedom scum does not possess. Attacking Chrom will get you nowhere with me. Focus on the subjects. Chrom's whole defense of Super was that town should put self-preservation first. You're not this bad. You were calling Super scum for wanting to stay alive. I am saying that that's not scummy. It's even in a guide posted at the top of the forum. I could probably find 3 guides that say the opposite, and you could probably find yet another 3 to back up your point. Not to mention that the guide you posted was not about self-preservation. And you know full well that I was not calling Super scum because he wanted to stay alive. I am calling Super scum because staying alive was more important to him than scum-hunting. There is a big difference.
That's what I meant and what I don't think is scummy. I fail to see how it impacts your read of me.
Doesn't really matter right now though.
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I would consolidate if it is literally the only way to avoid a no lynch.
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On July 15 2013 07:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:43 Chromatically wrote:
I would consolidate if it is literally the only way to avoid a no lynch. THIS IS BULLSHIT TOWN WE ARE GOING TO GET SO MUCH INFO WHEN WE LYNCH THERE ARE ONLY 3 FUCKING SCUMS. A MISSLYNCH IS NOT BAD. ARE YOU PEOPLE KIDDING ME? WE ALL AGREED THAT LYNCHING WAS GOOD. AND NOW CHROM WANTS TO PROTECT SUPER SO MADLY THAT A NO LYNHC IS OK? WE AGREE THAT THEY BOTH LOOK SCUM. FUCK THIS
I realize that reading comprehension is hard, why don't you take another look.
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On July 15 2013 07:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:31 Superfluous wrote:Koshi why are you pushing SO HARD on Chrom for thinking I'm town? he keeps listing his reasons, which you can agree or disagree with, but what you're doing isn't good for town at all. You're just causing divisions and not even asking me much of anything, who's the person that is supposedly mafia in your eyes. You haven't listed any arguments that have convinced Chrom. You even quoted my posts and bolded what you thought were reasons but skipped some reasons as well. Just because I don't make huge-walls of text doesn't mean I didn't list legitimate reasons. For instance you skipped bolding . It struck me the wrong way, and I interpreted it as he was waiting for a reason to lynch me, not that he wasn't going to at all. . At this point gut feelings play a major role in reads. Dude, you are scummy like hell. Divisions aren't bad. At this point it is you or kirby. Town can be divided today on this lynch and be best friends tomorrow. First I thought both you and Kirby were scummy, but I was willing to give Kirby a chance to redeem himself. You could have redeemed yourself as well but it would have been without me helping you. If you would have been doing the shit that Chroma is doing for you, than I wouldn't feel so strongly against you atm. B ut the fact is that you cant, you are afraid to defend yourself, you can only defend yourself by saying you are sorry. Unlike kirby who actually is defending himself on a decent way. But this Chrom character is something completely different. How can he feel so strongly about kirby. I was willing to vote Kirby, but chrom his defense made me WANT TO LYNCH you. Because it is unnatural how much Chrom cares about you. I am NEVER DEFENDING Kirby, I only said he could redeem himself. But look at Chrom. He is doing your defense. I think he must love you. I don't see any reason why Chrom keeps defending you so strongly, at this point he is more defending you than pushing his case against Kirby. Super, don't you think that your case against Xzavier was incredible weak at the moment that you voted for him?
You are 100% chainsaw defending Kirby. Not directly, but totally indirectly.
If you actually read and considered Kirby's defense, it was all apologies and "I'll play better next time".
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Wow, look at all the scum resistance to this Super lynch.
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On July 15 2013 08:01 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:55 Chromatically wrote:
Wow, look at all the scum resistance to this Super lynch. Is this a typo, Chrom? Did you mean 'Kirby' lynch? Because I think the Tribunal might establish that there may not be much resistance to lynching either side. (Which gives credence to Rainbows town-town theory.)
It was sarcasm, I'm the only one resisting the Super lynch while plenty of people are hopping on with little/no reasoning.
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On July 15 2013 08:04 Nightcat99 wrote:
yes umasi and every one else can hold the fact that i will be much more active over my head from this point on. The reason i change my vote is because, i realized that its out of dated and that my vote would not have accomplish anything at all, so even if i still feel that jrkirby is scum i wont waste a vote on him atm.
Plus i feel super's reasoning for asking the cop to check Umasi or Chroma who is leading the conversation, and since theres only 1 check a day, i feel its more important to use them on people who is seem scummy first to narrow down the list of scum there could be, and since the people that are leading the conversation is very active, theres a much bigger chances for us to get a read later on.
There's still a good chance that Kirby could get lynched A no lynch won't happen.
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On July 15 2013 08:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:You sarcastically mentioned that you thought the fact that the votes poured in on Super represented little mafia resistance to the lynch (thus indicating a mislynch). We have proven by getting Kirby up on the block in the span of about 10 seconds that this is not valid reasoning.
No you haven't? You don't honestly think this, right?
It's just a small side point, but I was saying that Super is likely a mislynch because of how easily the wagon started and grew. Scum aren't resisting it and scum could have easily hopped on. I'm pretty much the only reason that everyone's not on Super. Your weird stunt doesn't have anything to do with that.
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On July 15 2013 08:17 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 08:15 Chromatically wrote:On July 15 2013 08:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 15 2013 08:11 Chromatically wrote:
What? You sarcastically mentioned that you thought the fact that the votes poured in on Super represented little mafia resistance to the lynch (thus indicating a mislynch). We have proven by getting Kirby up on the block in the span of about 10 seconds that this is not valid reasoning. No you haven't? You don't honestly think this, right? It's just a small side point, but I was saying that Super is likely a mislynch because of how easily the wagon started and grew. Scum aren't resisting it and scum could have easily hopped on. I'm pretty much the only reason that everyone's not on Super. Your weird stunt doesn't have anything to do with that. Right. Now apply that logic to the current situation, but input 'Kirby' for 'super', since we just flipped the votes with equal ease.
No, that's not at all the point. A group of probable townies all agreeing to switch their votes does not indicate that it's a mislynch. That doesn't show the two main points I'm making, that "scum aren't resisting it" and that "scum could have hopped on". Neither of these apply to the Kirby wagon.
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Anyway, now would be a good time to read cases and filters and actually look at the content of their posting.
I'll try to stay out because I don't think there's much more I can say.
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I think I would prefer a switch to Koshi right now.
Read his filter and look at his opinions on Kirby/Super:
On July 15 2013 03:39 Koshi wrote:
If you don't agree with me that both players look scummy atm but Kirby might be easier to read in Day 2 because he posts more and is more aggressive. Then we don't have much to discuss.
If there are 6 votes on Kirby expect me to give the 7th.
But for now I believe Super is the best choice.
It seems like he thinks both are very similar in scumminess.
Then, with no reasoning, he accuses me of tunneling, being full of shit, and starts attacking Super and hard defending Kirby.
He also gave this nonsense reason for a town read on Kirby:
On July 14 2013 08:02 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 07:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 14 2013 07:11 Koshi wrote:
@hzflank
That is a really impressing post. I would give you a cookie but I will give you this instead.
##Vote: Superfluous
I also like the kirby case but kirby hasn't posted in the last 20 hours. So I am reluctant to put my vote on him. Kirby has proven that he can make big analytical posts or at least is willing to do so. He has proven that he can pick up on 1 scummier sentence in a big convincing pro town post. So I would like to give kirby the chance to do this before I put my vote on him. What?! Find one. Now. Please. The joking one. I didn't say it was good. I am just saying that he is willing to do so.
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I was pretty sure that they were both scum, butI have doubts that scum Koshi would be hard defending scum Kirby as much as he just did.
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If we can get 7 people to say that they'll switch, then we're good.
We've got me, Umasi, Sponge so far it sounds like (maybe Xzav).
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On July 15 2013 08:48 Koshi wrote:
If you want I am willing to vote for myself. Do you get 6 others? We still have 12 minutes.
Why on earth would you post this??
There is NO reason to ENCOURAGE people to lynch you.
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ahhhhhhhhhh
The case on Kirby was better than the one on Super, Kirby only looked town for the last ~10 minutes. I'll stand by that.
One of Super or Koshi is scum. Koshi's hard defense of Kirby with little reasoning looks like it could be scum trying to get town cred from a town flip to me. I'll also look at Nightcat because he didn't care about who was lynched at all.
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Please do point out how my defense made no sense, because it made quite a lot of sense.
Your very, very aggressive defense of Kirby makes no sense right after you said that they were both very scummy.
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On July 15 2013 09:26 Nightcat99 wrote:
Superfluous (4): hzlank, Koshi, Xzavier, jrkirby
jrkirby (7): StiMaDDict, Chromatically, Gotard, Hurricane Sponge, umasi, Rainbows, nightcat99
Xzavier (1): Superfluous
first of all, theres got to be some scum that jump on the jrkirby wagon because he was super helpful and its a good move to have him removed. super's vote on xzavier made no sense that wouldn't change anything, stim's last mintue vote.. i dotn even know whos playing but if it was stim then that last minute post seemed a bit mroe townie then scum. i dont feel like hurricane and umasi is scum but gotard and chrom is someone we shall look at . and about the votes that stayed on super.
those are more likely to be townie then not.
How was he super helpful? Apart from his two last reads posts.
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