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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On July 15 2013 07:56 Rainbows wrote: Okay what the fuck is that vote nightcat What umasi said. Looks like nightcat realized his vote was out-of-date. Didn't raise too many scumbells for me. I'd be more concerned that he's scum trying to get bus cred now that the Almighty Tribunal Of Awesome Lynch Assurance has formed. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On July 15 2013 07:58 Superfluous wrote: I am giving examples, by day two there could be different people controlling the discussion anyway. A good player would know who to check, and a good mafia player would know to frame them so it doesnt change that much. There's a chance one of the newer players hasn't played cop much before and ends up doing a bad check. I care about cop cause it's the defining/most important town role and want to give good advice in case I die. I appreciate your thoughts on blues, but I think I mentioned literally a page ago, let blues do they're job. + Show Spoiler + On a side note, I think vig can be more defining, just ask rainbows | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On July 15 2013 07:55 Chromatically wrote: Wow, look at all the scum resistance to this Super lynch. Is this a typo, Chrom? Did you mean 'Kirby' lynch? Because I think the Tribunal might establish that there may not be much resistance to lynching either side. (Which gives credence to Rainbows town-town theory.) | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
On July 15 2013 07:48 Rainbows wrote: Scum are the quiet ones. 100%. Lynch Gotard last hour of game :o I would absolutely love this. A bunch of people agree that he's scum, too. | ||
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Superfluous
United States70 Posts
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
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Superfluous
United States70 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
hzlank (0): Superfluous (7): Umasi, hzlank, Koshi, Rainbows, Xzavier, jrkirby, Nightcat99 StiMaDDict (0): jrkirby (3): StiMaDDict, Chromatically, Gotard (0): Xzavier (1): Superfluous Voting is mandatory. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here. Not voting: cloud-9, umasi Currently superfluous is set to be lynched. Deadline is in ~ 1 hours. With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch! | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
My case on Kirby: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227¤tpage=27#533 Kirby's filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227&user=jrkirby Kirby's defense was very unconvincing, he basically said "ok I'll play better next time". The points presented are still very relevant, check for yourselves. Defense of Super: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227¤tpage=36#709 Ask yourselves what your reasons are for thinking Super are scum (as opposed to dumb) and compare them to the reasons for Kirby. I would discourage using post count, scum will obviously want to post more under pressure (as would town). | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 15 2013 08:02 Rainbows wrote: Literally we could lynch either guy and mafiandoesnt seem to give two shits. How do you know that? | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On July 15 2013 08:01 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Is this a typo, Chrom? Did you mean 'Kirby' lynch? Because I think the Tribunal might establish that there may not be much resistance to lynching either side. (Which gives credence to Rainbows town-town theory.) It was sarcasm, I'm the only one resisting the Super lynch while plenty of people are hopping on with little/no reasoning. | ||
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
Plus i feel super's reasoning for asking the cop to check Umasi or Chroma who is leading the conversation, and since theres only 1 check a day, i feel its more important to use them on people who is seem scummy first to narrow down the list of scum there could be, and since the people that are leading the conversation is very active, theres a much bigger chances for us to get a read later on. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On July 15 2013 08:04 Nightcat99 wrote: yes umasi and every one else can hold the fact that i will be much more active over my head from this point on. The reason i change my vote is because, i realized that its out of dated and that my vote would not have accomplish anything at all, so even if i still feel that jrkirby is scum i wont waste a vote on him atm. Plus i feel super's reasoning for asking the cop to check Umasi or Chroma who is leading the conversation, and since theres only 1 check a day, i feel its more important to use them on people who is seem scummy first to narrow down the list of scum there could be, and since the people that are leading the conversation is very active, theres a much bigger chances for us to get a read later on. There's still a good chance that Kirby could get lynched A no lynch won't happen. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I realize fluff is fluff but maybe we want this to happen? | ||
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
Nightcat smells fishy. The early vote on kirby could have been a towncred vote to put distance between them. It's possible he came back and saw a close vote and can't risk being the vote that lynches his buddy now. It seemed a bit too easy to get votes onto Super. Let's get them onto Kirby now, and continue deliberations. ##unvote ##vote: JrKirby | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On July 13 2013 19:53 Gotard wrote: Hello! After some lurking (jk I was sleeping) i'd like to share my thoughts: 1) hzflank - cold, calculated. Null read. 2) StiMaDDict - bad town. It would be too easy if he's mafia. 3) Chromatically - I think he's pushing stim too hard (he's agressive in general) but at the same time it's good for town to see some bandwagons going 4) jrkirby - confuses me a little.But he has a similar view on StiMaDDict as i do. 5) Koshi - inexperienced or lurking hard. 6) Xzavier - one good post No wait, that one was good. Need to see some more activity from him to have a read. I don't agree that lynching lurker is better than no lynch (9v3 > 8v3) 7) Rainbows - A lot of posts with minimum impact seems more townie than mafia. wtf? 8) Nightcat99 - lurking newbie. 9) Umasi - Very aggressive same as last game I played with him (He was town). 11) Hurricane Sponge - biggest town read. Really liked this post. 12) Superfluous - Town vibe. 13) cloud-9 - US timezone and 0 posts. Not a very good list, doesn't explain much. I am not one to get angry over list posts, but whatever, some people hate it GUYS IT'S A LIST On July 13 2013 20:12 Gotard wrote: Easy question. Umasi and Xzavier!!! (jk) I'm really confused because my biggest (biggest doesn't mean that i'm really sure of anything) scum reads don't think that Stim is mafia. Maybe they don't want to vote on him because they know that this is too easy and don't want to jump on him that early. He looks like a bad town not like mafia. He jokes about xzav and I, presumably for wanting to lynch him early last game. He states he's confused, his scum reads don't think Stim is mafia, does not explain WHO his scum reads are, then goes along with the increasing consensus on StiM. On July 13 2013 20:51 Gotard wrote: Because it's obvious that he's mad that you think that he's mafia. I don't see any reasoning behind his posts except for being mad. Why would he write posts like that if he's mafia? On July 13 2013 21:35 Gotard wrote: But there was no reason for him to get mad if he's mafia. On July 13 2013 22:41 Gotard wrote: Yeah he looks bad or i should say useless for town. But you need to ask yourself "What would he gain with posts like that as mafia?". Bad town not mafia. These three posts, I really REALLY like these three posts by him. He's looking at the right things, even if he may or may not be correct (we have no idea if he was legitimately mad or just pretend flipping out) On July 14 2013 08:22 Gotard wrote: Jrkirby looks like a better lynch than Superfluous right now. Why not Superfluous? He isn't afraid to share his strong reads. His posts aren't full of useless crap (Hello Rainbows!) even when he isn't 100% right which concerns me. More pro town that jrkirby in general feel. Why Jrkirby? I don't see him making pro town content. His post claiming that hzflank is mafia was awkward and then he defended himself saying that it was only a joke/pressure combo. Then posing useless lurker list (seems like every newbie game needs one). But as far as his interaction with stim goes I think you are overthinking it. ##vote: jrkirby. Like, at this point, I'm losing the motivation to talk about it at the time, because Superfluous and Kirby are just objectively scummier people. From his current posts, I don't think he's scummy enough to warrant a switch. I don't think he's too scummy at all, tbth He gives independent reasoning for his reads, and has good thought, he's just not posting very frequently | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 15 2013 08:08 Rainbows wrote: If either kirby or super is blue plz claim NO. NO. NO. We want a Super claim. NOT A KIRBY CLAIM WTF? | ||
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