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On July 15 2013 07:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:31 Superfluous wrote:Koshi why are you pushing SO HARD on Chrom for thinking I'm town? he keeps listing his reasons, which you can agree or disagree with, but what you're doing isn't good for town at all. You're just causing divisions and not even asking me much of anything, who's the person that is supposedly mafia in your eyes. You haven't listed any arguments that have convinced Chrom. You even quoted my posts and bolded what you thought were reasons but skipped some reasons as well. Just because I don't make huge-walls of text doesn't mean I didn't list legitimate reasons. For instance you skipped bolding . It struck me the wrong way, and I interpreted it as he was waiting for a reason to lynch me, not that he wasn't going to at all. . At this point gut feelings play a major role in reads. Dude, you are scummy like hell. Divisions aren't bad. At this point it is you or kirby. Town can be divided today on this lynch and be best friends tomorrow. First I thought both you and Kirby were scummy, but I was willing to give Kirby a chance to redeem himself. You could have redeemed yourself as well but it would have been without me helping you. If you would have been doing the shit that Chroma is doing for you, than I wouldn't feel so strongly against you atm. B ut the fact is that you cant, you are afraid to defend yourself, you can only defend yourself by saying you are sorry. Unlike kirby who actually is defending himself on a decent way. But this Chrom character is something completely different. How can he feel so strongly about kirby. I was willing to vote Kirby, but chrom his defense made me WANT TO LYNCH you. Because it is unnatural how much Chrom cares about you. I am NEVER DEFENDING Kirby, I only said he could redeem himself. But look at Chrom. He is doing your defense. I think he must love you. I don't see any reason why Chrom keeps defending you so strongly, at this point he is more defending you than pushing his case against Kirby. Super, don't you think that your case against Xzavier was incredible weak at the moment that you voted for him?
You are 100% chainsaw defending Kirby. Not directly, but totally indirectly.
If you actually read and considered Kirby's defense, it was all apologies and "I'll play better next time".
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On July 15 2013 07:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:43 Chromatically wrote:
I would consolidate if it is literally the only way to avoid a no lynch. THIS IS BULLSHIT TOWN WE ARE GOING TO GET SO MUCH INFO WHEN WE LYNCH THERE ARE ONLY 3 FUCKING SCUMS. A MISSLYNCH IS NOT BAD. ARE YOU PEOPLE KIDDING ME? WE ALL AGREED THAT LYNCHING WAS GOOD. AND NOW CHROM WANTS TO PROTECT SUPER SO MADLY THAT A NO LYNHC IS OK? WE AGREE THAT THEY BOTH LOOK SCUM. FUCK THIS
YOU AREMISUNDERSTANDING THIS
CONSOLIDATE
AS IN
HE WOULD SWAP TO SUPER IF WE WERE GOING TO NO LYNCH OTHERWISE
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ALSO IMPORTANT NOTE
If there is a cop, I feel an obligation to point out that it is more important to check active people who are pushing hard than it is to check lurkers. It is generally a better policy to lynch lurkers and check actives than to lynch actives and and check lurkers.
Also, the Mafia WANT people who are difficult to read in the end game to cause confusion amongst the town, and having a cop check on these people can win the game for town.
It is also dangerous if someone like Umasi or Chroma are mafia and go unchecked, because they are controlling the conversation and pushing hard on people.
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oh everyone responded k good
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On July 15 2013 07:50 Superfluous wrote:
ALSO IMPORTANT NOTE
If there is a cop, I feel an obligation to point out that it is more important to check active people who are pushing hard than it is to check lurkers. It is generally a better policy to lynch lurkers and check actives than to lynch actives and and check lurkers.
Also, the Mafia WANT people who are difficult to read in the end game to cause confusion amongst the town, and having a cop check on these people can win the game for town.
It is also dangerous if someone like Umasi or Chroma are mafia and go unchecked, because they are controlling the conversation and pushing hard on people.
That is random advice. It is good advice though, but it is very random.
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On July 15 2013 07:50 Superfluous wrote:
ALSO IMPORTANT NOTE
If there is a cop, I feel an obligation to point out that it is more important to check active people who are pushing hard than it is to check lurkers. It is generally a better policy to lynch lurkers and check actives than to lynch actives and and check lurkers.
Also, the Mafia WANT people who are difficult to read in the end game to cause confusion amongst the town, and having a cop check on these people can win the game for town.
It is also dangerous if someone like Umasi or Chroma are mafia and go unchecked, because they are controlling the conversation and pushing hard on people.
Whyvdo you care so much about cops.
fuck cops. framers and millers good roles.
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Superfluous, although that advice is sound, you literally just set up framing targets for mafia.
Don't direct blues.
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TRIBUNAL COMMENCE:
I'm leaning Super right now. One tiebreaker is activity level. Kirby has 3 1/2 pages of content vs. Super's 1 1/2.
My reads also line up better with Kirby. Super has some of the easiest, surface-level scum reads in the history of mankind. Guy who poked him early (Xzavier), guy leading his wagon (hzflank), and Lurkers. Not like, actual lurkers, but literally the word 'lurkers'. Didn't even name actual lurkers that he's suspicious of.
The koshi scum read is odd, but I'm willing to chalk that up to a mafia protecting his mafiabro in the event he flips red. If Super were to flip green, this interpretation would be moot.
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And there's the WIFOM hell :/
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Superflous make your case against the people you call scum.
How do you dare to call me and Xzavier scum? Except for saying that you are scum.
How the you dare to add a lurker there. Is that another famous gut reading or maths?
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so I'm going to go write a case on Gotard, I have no idea if it will return town or mafia
I'm going to see what happens though, expect one soon.
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hi guys i just got back home and i am reading through the filters for jrkiby and super, i might have mis judge jirkiby plus it seems like he wont get enough vote to be lynch, since i am a supporter of lynch one person a day i am going to jump on the super wagon for now but i will read through everything first and i will difently till the end of the voting period, so i will be able to read any message from now.
I also wanted to apoloygize for my absents, i really dont go on trips that often and from the one this game was looking, i wasnt expecting it to start before i come back, but i will be here everyday from now one and be much more active.
#unvote jrkirby
#vote: superfluous
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Wow, look at all the scum resistance to this Super lynch.
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On July 15 2013 07:55 Chromatically wrote:
Wow, look at all the scum resistance to this Super lynch.
wow look at all the tunneling to protect Super.
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On July 15 2013 07:53 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
TRIBUNAL COMMENCE:
I'm leaning Super right now. One tiebreaker is activity level. Kirby has 3 1/2 pages of content vs. Super's 1 1/2.
My reads also line up better with Kirby. Super has some of the easiest, surface-level scum reads in the history of mankind. Guy who poked him early (Xzavier), guy leading his wagon (hzflank), and Lurkers. Not like, actual lurkers, but literally the word 'lurkers'. Didn't even name actual lurkers that he's suspicious of.
The koshi scum read is odd, but I'm willing to chalk that up to a mafia protecting his mafiabro in the event he flips red. If Super were to flip green, this interpretation would be moot.
The activity level is probably the biggest tiebreaker, for me
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Okay what the fuck is that vote nightcat
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he voted a while ago, he was explaining it now, it makes no sense, but if he says he'll be here more, we can hold it over his head constantly.
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no it was on jrkirby before and now its Lol super mode.
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I am giving examples, by day two there could be different people controlling the discussion anyway. A good player would know who to check, and a good mafia player would know to frame them so it doesnt change that much. There's a chance one of the newer players hasn't played cop much before and ends up doing a bad check. I care about cop cause it's the defining/most important town role and want to give good advice in case I die.
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