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On July 15 2013 05:34 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 05:13 Xzavier wrote:
honestly, between jkirby and super im kinda stunned. I see them both as scummy as shit. Right now i dont even feel the need to OMGUS super because his vote on my was without a case and the only case he made wasnt even on me.
Im sorry for working a fuckton, im home for the rest of the day and will be active for the most part( ill be active for sure before and up to the deadline, it would be horrid if we didnt get a lynch off) my schuelde last week was this 2:30-11 pretty much every day the second half of the week, add classes in the morning to that and what else do you want me to do?
my schuelde for this week is alot nicer and i can see myself being able to be present more. So ill do that. And people will be happy and like it.
after reading the cases on super and jkirby, im kinda feeling like they are slightly more useful than somebody like cloud-9 who has lurked the entire fucking game.
like i said a while back they were both on my scumdar, right now i want to lynch super, because his play has shown no potential to benefit town.
laddies and gents, i give you:
SUPERRRRR
the only thing i dont understand about him is why vote me when everybody else clearly states that you dont have a tangible reason to do so? and then you make a case on a different person but dont switch your vote? I dont follow your play at all, its confusing. But its scummy because it couldnt possibly be from a town perspective. you havent dont much at all in the ways of actively scumhunt. i get that you werent here yesterday and im the last one to yell at you for lurking, but beyond that you actually havnt added anythign to the conversation, or defended yourself. Have made a point to dodge questions that a town would love to jump at in order to display innocence.
him sticking to his "gut-read" is damning the town. he needs to vote on a bandwagon or we run the possibility of a no-lynch which by far benefits scum the most, we NEED to get a lynch off.
jkirby also throwing his vote away is worrying me, but atleast hes made a case on the person he has voted for.
basically what this boils down to is im voting Super because i havnt seen any actual real scumhunting out of him and iv seem attempts (although unsuccessful/silly) out of Jkirby, This leads me to think that he is actually trying.
##VOTE: Superfluous Typical Xzavier OMGUS post. The basis for your entire vote on him is because he voted for you. Try to expand your horizons a bit, Xzavier...
Yes it is, but unlike the aqua game, his reasoning for voting me is total shit. Like actually non-existant. If he woulda gave a reason and made a case then i would have a shaky slight scumread on him instead of what i have now. instead he made a case on somebody else but didnt switch his vote. It all seems too strange for me.
This isnt just OMGUS, but him voting me is actually incriminating the way it went down.
On July 15 2013 05:35 Rainbows wrote:
unvote
vote: jrkirby
cus chrom said so
i really, seriously hope this is sarcasm.
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getting 7 people to hammer would be pretty difficult, but if im the difference between a no-lynch and a lynch gotard ill switch, i wouldnt be happy about it though (being as the cases on him have yet to be discussed in depth.
Its sooooo fucking risky though and could easily end up in a no-lynch if the slightest thing goes wrong(if i understand correctly, like last 5 min we all switch to gotard)
Chromatically, i think your case has alot of valid points, and while only a few of the origional points show scum, most of the points you disproved to be bad play, not town. Nobody wants a game involving bad logic, ect. Sure it might not mean scum, but you dont want to try to convince somebody who doesnt understand logic. It just could get messy. Thats an example.
Your case convinced me you were town chrom, and it also forced me to open my eyes and do a bit of my own investigating, but attacking somebody who said he would be away for a good amount of time out of desperation with 20+ hours left before lynch seems like the better scum option, being as the town option could proove his innocents by scumhunting and making reasonable cases. he did neither.
It also made me lose alot of confidence in my scumread on him, but its still the biggest scumread i have after that.
On July 15 2013 05:53 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 05:13 Xzavier wrote:
him [super] sticking to his "gut-read" is damning the town. he needs to vote on a bandwagon or we run the possibility of a no-lynch which by far benefits scum the most, we NEED to get a lynch off.
jkirby also throwing his vote away is worrying me, but atleast hes made a case on the person he has voted for.
I don't understand this. You think that Super is scummy for not being on a wagon. You are willing to ignore Kirby not being on a wagon. The fact that he's made a case is irrelevant, he's still "benefitting scum" just as much by not being on a wagon.
your taking alot of my smaller points and saying "You think hes scum for this" as if thats the only reason i think hes scum, alot of the things your bringing up at stuff taht says "look into this guy" and if i get enough of those, i call it "scummy"
my larger point as i think sponge pointed out was him voting me out of nowhere and then making a case on a different person. That just doesnt make logic connect from a town POV.
and that alone wouldnt be enough for me, but add all the little sprinkles your quoting in and it moves him to my #1 scumread. Kirby is certianly on my list of scumreads so dont except me to say i think hes town or someshit, But i think hes more likely to be town than super, this being why im voting for super.
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chrom, didnt you kinda say one of his reasons checked out and made sense for him being scum?
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what could would either of them claiming do? if you claim 15 min before you die your probably still goign to die anyway, its like when in the movies you hold a gun to somebodys head and they start spewing off how they will do anything, give anything, blahblahblah. same principle.
i honestly am so lost right now, i think super is a fine lynch. But im not following this tribunal at all, it appears to have formed during my 25 min game of LoL.. T.T
is the tribunal the hammer that was going to hit gotard really close before the end?
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On July 15 2013 08:17 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 08:15 Xzavier wrote:
what could would either of them claiming do? if you claim 15 min before you die your probably still goign to die anyway, its like when in the movies you hold a gun to somebodys head and they start spewing off how they will do anything, give anything, blahblahblah. same principle.
i honestly am so lost right now, i think super is a fine lynch. But im not following this tribunal at all, it appears to have formed during my 25 min game of LoL.. T.T
is the tribunal the hammer that was going to hit gotard really close before the end? the tribunal is OUR GLORIOUS LEADER, Rainbows, and me Basically we will swap votes wherever to prevent no lynch shenaniganry.
i like this idea, because the three most active people who i have strong townreads on working together.
This is like the anti-scum team with their own KP (actually stealing the towns KP xD)
i like the idea of this, im kinda afraid of how quickly it formed right before a deadline, as in my first game of mafia, stupid shit happens when there are 5 posts a minute up till the deadline.
apart from that i like it.
the leader is hurricane right?
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On July 15 2013 08:21 Nightcat99 wrote:
and i disagree with the role claim because if they are going to die theres no reason for the scum to know we are missing a blue or if there are enough scum vote to save them last sec and switch to someone else that would be worst, cause now they can get 2 people
if a 1-2 people switch last moment and suddenly its a mislynch, shits gonna go down. That goes without saying. (i mean, last minute with absolutely shit reason or no reason, hell even a good reason, it would need to be a reason that makes me bow down and worship their scumhunting skills for me to not lynch them the next day, certainly if its a blue mislynch)
they would instantly become 90% of what i would talk about the next day.
also, if this fucking tribunal is the scumteam, im going to cry myself to sleep tonight, and hope i never wake up.
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super, im trying to sit here and make myself spam f5, but its hard to do that for over 15 min at a time for me, so i played a game of league, or i watched fucking mango go ham at evo.
i dont see how im agreeing with the consensus now as i already cast my vote a long time ago and have mado no notion of moving it, xD
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im not at work right now, im enjoying my half a day off while trying to put alot of effort into this.
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On July 15 2013 08:31 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
DOUBLE SECRET TRIBUNAL MEETING
Attn: If you are not part of the Incredible Tribunal For Make Great Benefit Lynching Daily, you must stop reading this post now and cover your eyes.
Alright, now that all the legit folks are in here, I think we've gotten some useful information. We've confirmed that we control 4 mobile votes today (this may change in the future). Sponge, Umasi, Rainbows, Nightcat.
In addition, we have two semi-mobile votes in Chromatically (probably) and hzflank (maybe probably), both unconfirmed however. We could go after the scummiest Other. The more I think about Rainbow's 'town-town' claim, the more it seems like a possibility. I'm still leaning Super as scummiest, but we can talk about that after I get thoughts on the following play:
We could totally drop Gotard or Koshi tonight if we wanted.
Koshi is in the 'too scum to be scum' category for me right now. Gonna dive his filter. Gotard is gotard. For right now, I want tribunal thoughts on this play.
im worried that this is too big, i liked it when it was just you three, but when you add more you are giving an open invitation to sheep with little to no reason and nothing to lose if its a mislynch, because they were simply following orders. i dont think there is a scum in the core 3, but im super worried that scum can easily tag along and ride the wagon for free.
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my OMGUS says Super
hell thats all i hear anyway ....
no seriously:
my logic is saying super, other people have brought up valid points against kirby, and i LOVE chrom's last post, i dont want to do the vote-switch now because there is no way in hell for all of us to filter-dive him in only 15 min and make up our own minds, but hes a serious lynch candidate for me day2 and I'm going to filter dive him as soon as this day ends.
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On July 15 2013 08:43 Chromatically wrote:I think I would prefer a switch to Koshi right now. Read his filter and look at his opinions on Kirby/Super: Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 03:39 Koshi wrote:
If you don't agree with me that both players look scummy atm but Kirby might be easier to read in Day 2 because he posts more and is more aggressive. Then we don't have much to discuss.
If there are 6 votes on Kirby expect me to give the 7th.
But for now I believe Super is the best choice. It seems like he thinks both are very similar in scumminess. Then, with no reasoning, he accuses me of tunneling, being full of shit, and starts attacking Super and hard defending Kirby. He also gave this nonsense reason for a town read on Kirby: Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 08:02 Koshi wrote:On July 14 2013 07:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 14 2013 07:11 Koshi wrote:
@hzflank
That is a really impressing post. I would give you a cookie but I will give you this instead.
##Vote: Superfluous
I also like the kirby case but kirby hasn't posted in the last 20 hours. So I am reluctant to put my vote on him. Kirby has proven that he can make big analytical posts or at least is willing to do so. He has proven that he can pick up on 1 scummier sentence in a big convincing pro town post. So I would like to give kirby the chance to do this before I put my vote on him. What?! Find one. Now. Please. The joking one. I didn't say it was good. I am just saying that he is willing to do so.
this post btw,
and yeah im getting scum vibes from koshi too
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On July 15 2013 08:48 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
But... but... Xzavier.... BIG PLAYS!
This is like somebody saying "ya-know whats a great idea, gambling"
and then they go gamble their entire lifesavings on red.
Its a good idea, but we need to talk it out, we cant all blindly sheep in 10 min, thats not a big play, thats a hail mary.
i certianly want to look super deep into him day2 but im not physically capable for making a case in under 30 min.
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btw, i didnt see all his self-claim shit at the time of my posting. thats fucking strange, at this time, what does he hope to prove? he knows hes 100% safe from getting lynched. wtf.
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Umasi, if somebody breaks your precious town circle and it isnt one of you three, you have my vote on him the next day, and if their is a threat of no-lynch i will fill in as best as possible (i mean, if this guy goes at 7:59:59:29 i might have a hard time but ill do my best to ensure there is a lynch, you have my word on that.
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im so blind i missed that mod post
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On July 15 2013 09:55 Koshi wrote:
Also, with the green flip of kirby I should NEVER be seen as scum. Or I am that retard that wants to go 2 versus 11 with a bit of townkred from the Day 1 scum lynch.
what in the living fuck is this??? your not confirmed town until your dead, scum might make a day1 bus plan JUST because people like you would think that, NEVER is a word that loses games in mafia, only the dead are confirmed.
even with his green flip i fail to see where you get town cred?
defending town makes you look a little better, but since scum can defend town too, it makes it pretty WIFOMy, everybody defends town and scum alike on accident occasionally, but its all WIFOM because there is no way to know for sure, so yes you gained an ants fart of town cred for defending him.
you certainly are still on my list of candidates for day2 lynch, dont kid yourself.
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alright, glad you admit that.
whats your thoughts on the town circle?
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EBWOP: That was directed at Koshi
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