EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XLIV
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Xzavier
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Xzavier
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Im sure it is. but it just seems so strange that whatever timezone has the largest chunk of people have the most reactive votes. (which i believe are important if somebody gets instalynched.) or wait. this might be deadline majority and i didnt read the OP. Fuck im tired. | ||
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Xzavier
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I just wanted to post this before the game started. yaknow, so people cant say this is an excuse to lurk as scum, cuz i dont know my role yet. i work Tuesday,Thursday, Saturday from 2:30-11 this week (its 1:54 right now for me, so use that for timezone conversion shit, EST) and ill post my schuelde when i get it friday-saturdayish. Excited for this :D | ||
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Meanwhile. i had to clean up a fucking bloody mess. this guy has a "calice" half the size of an egg and it burst. he said he didnt feel anythingm but it was like somebody dropped a quart of blood onto the floor and it splattered. i didnt even think it was blood until i saw his foot. but thats a new one. " cleanup in isle 12" arrives to a poorly covered murder scene.... T.T they dont pay me enough for this shit lol | ||
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Xzavier
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i spend most of my time doing all the other shit courtisy clerks are involved in. And its just a summer job while i take college classes. im 18. BUT this was nowhere near as bad as when i worked at the spring/flatstock shop(think minifactory) where my dad works at and i watched a guy coil 1/3rd thick wire straight into his palm. Im not one to gag at blood and shit. but watching him basically unscrew his palm made me throw up. (it falayed it pretty damn bad) The work there wasnt that bad and i was pretty good at it. Exhausting work but basically thst experience+everybody telling me this is why you go to college, so you dont hav to work at a place like this your entire life. | ||
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On July 13 2013 08:33 Superfluous wrote: While I agree that we should lynch someone if they are super scummy, I'd like to point out that voting for no lynch is an option. Assuming I'm interpreting the rules/setup right, mafia only has 1 kp so there's no immediate motive for lynching such as reducing kp. It may be a stronger play to not lynch and hope that cop(if there is one) gets a turn to check before lynch. It is a risk though because I believe we are not guaranteed to have a cop. Just an idea I wanted to throw out and get your guys' thoughts on. i know usami has touched on this, but i see voting for No-lynch is like sacrificing a townie or playing russian roullet for zero prize money. its just basically saying "i want to start this game a townie down" it seems silly to me, if somebody comes and gives me an ungodly reason for no-lynching ill hear it. but i see it as silly. Also from playing with usami before, hes a super fucking hyper aggressive person who needs like a single post to tunnel somebody for a full day, that can be bad. we need to keep our eyes open and looking at multiple people. As i learned my first game, a tunnel vision day1 can lead to a mislynch, or in this gametype, a no-lynch. Its far better to lynch scum, and thats what we should try to do. Even day1 we lynch either a lurker or our top scumread, if nobody has any strong scumreads, lynching the scummiest lurker is the best townplay day1. (it yields the highest chance of killing scum while creating the best pro-town enviroment) with that im also shocked of how active stim-addict is being. its nice to see a usual lurker picking it up leaving less for the scum to hide behind :D again, even Superfluous is at the top of my scumdar, he isnt high enough to deserve a vote yet. I want to lynch a lurker or superfluous depending on how he reacts to our posts and the events of the day. if the rest of it goes uneventful/no major scumslips i want to fuck up a lurker as i believe that to be the best pro-town action. | ||
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
Seriously, da fuck. Im doing my best to improve my play and your just calling me out for it. That i find strange. | ||
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Xzavier
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Chromatically: Tunnels the fuck out of him quite uncharacteristically, brought up a few nice points but a lot of them can be countered by why in the hell would scum do this. Yes his play is bad altogether, but i see it as a townie giving up, not as a mafia trying to prove his innocence in the worst way possible. it just doesn't seem logical to me. I feel like day1 last game he was poking and prodding a lot more and at different people, trying to get reads all around. this game i see him set his sights on somebody who has RQ the thread at a very strange time and place. His arguement isnt something i could support at the moment, it just doesnt seem to have decent logic. while stim certainly isnt pro town, he has done nothing to appear to me that he is any scummier than the person who is blindly tunneling him. Superfluous: shockingly enough hasnt mentioned stim once in his filter, that seems strange. his original point was one that i think most of us disagree with and i already posted my thoughts on it. But he hasnt said anything about stim which i think should be noted, idk what it means yet, but this piqued my interest. Usami: null, never try to get a read on usami. appeal to his cocaine dealer first, tell him were going to have an intervention for Usami, then a week later we can all get together and parse something of a read on him. :D No seriously heres my actual read on Usami: he votes stim with good reason, as if he was saying "your most likely scum on my list, but if not your a counterproductive town so you can still die and ill be happy" i like that, because it makes the town much stronger as time goes on, obviously i would prefer scum lynches but if you see no clear scum to lynch, this thought process is best thought process imo. jrkirby: claims he has a null read on stim- after doing sensible things when you have a null read, like trying to calm him down to remove emotion from his posts (because an angry poster is a bad poster), his entire take on stim can be summed up by his last post: On July 13 2013 13:42 jrkirby wrote: I don't think he's thinking through what he's saying. His actions don't seem town because they're foolish from every way you look at them. But that doesn't make him clearly scum. But on the road to getting there he seemed to tunnel him the least of all and keep his options around on everybody, i like how he didnt just total tunnel vision him like chrom, because he helps the town far more by simply looking at others. I like that. he pressured hurricane and has spoken to half the thread, that much i like. He may be hedging as stim just said, but i think its early enough that it might not be the worst of things to do early day1, but if he keeps it up it will look might suspicious. Right now i feel like hes town still. i am happy that somebody brought up the hedging point, because before i saw that i had him pegged as one of my stronger town reads, now i can see a smart ruse that i might have totally fallen for. Hurricane Sponge: Started the day off with his 'if i roll town heres my first post of the day thats obviously pre-written cuz its so damn long" and gets slightly pressured for it. He started the day by saying everything he knows about everybody, this is actually useful to town, its alot like knowing if somebody is EURO or american timezone. it doesnt mean very much as to their alignment, but it helps you know that they arnt lurking, they are sleeping. i hope you get what im saying. Anyway after his opening post he provides the most in depth post as to the stim ordeal, and its seriously pro-town and hopefully shoved logic down alot of these guys throats. i really liked his massive post about it, and at the moment its convinced me hes town. This is my strongest town read at the moment and i like this thoughts about the situtation. He asks alot of good questions that i cant find an answer for, Like wouldnt his scumbuddies tell him to slow down and breathe, or claim it was a joke or something. i cant see a scum just lone wolfing it and responding to THAT much pressure without consulting his scumbuddies/coach. i get why he wouldnt want to die, nobody wants to die. but it was his massive case that made me think that he really isnt all that scummy at the moment, is he pro-town, most certianly not, but he isnt scummy to me, it just reminds me of my friend i duo queue with for LoL, the moment anybody calls him a noob i spend the next 10 minutes over skype saying "it doesnt matter" "calm down" "your fucking 9/1/5 this game, you arnt a god damn noob" but he still spams the all-chat while totally ignoring me. But in a game like this i cant see that happening. or if it did and he was scum, the other scum would have no choice but the buss the shit out of him if he REALLY cant control his emotions THAT poorly. Hzflank: he has two short and sweet posts and that get to the point about him, i really like this one in particular: On July 13 2013 23:59 hzflank wrote: Stim was caught lying about the motivation behind his posts. In my opinion, lying about motivation is one of the scummiest things a person could do on day 1. Stim's defence was to martyr, and I am not willing to give anyone credit for martyring. As far as I am concerned that is a red mark against Stim. During the course of the game everyone gets red marks against them. The important thing is to look at each red mark and ask 'Could that have come from a town position?'. In this case I think it could of come from a town position, based on my earlier assumption that Stim took the original post too seriously and later tried to invent justification for his posts based on a less serious early position. A red mark, but not enough to make me highly confident that he is scum. The other important thing about red marks is to get a feel for how many there are compared to green marks and posts in general. This is where the martyring is a problem, as we need Stim to continue to contribute. @Stim, I suggest that you move on. Instead of discussing what has already happened, dive some filters and form the best reads that you can. Then post your reads, showing as much of your reasoning as you can. This will give us new things to discuss with you, so that you do not have to keep talking about that happened yesterday. If you do not post again then the red mark will still be there but there will not be any green marks to balance it. and it would appear as if stim took his reasonable advice and did so, making him far more useful as town and created a few green marks to start to balance it out. I basically agree with everything said here. he tries to slow things down and give stim a chance to respond, this is something that very few people did, and its something that more people should have done. im glad he didn't ragequit the game and that he did take the time to make a massively informative post, because now he has made one massively pro-town post, and if this continues most of my doubts about him will continue to falter. | ||
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Xzavier
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On July 14 2013 06:09 Umasi wrote: @XZAVIER Spoil me, who's your largest scum read? Have you mentioned it and I totally missed it? Super at the moment. but im catching up on thread now. Lunch just started. | ||
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
But right now super & jkirby both blink bright red on my scumdar. super has talked of policy then threw a halfass vote at me when asked to vote. didnt even try to convince people to vote with him. Wasting a vote is a horrible thing. | ||
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On July 14 2013 15:23 StiMaDDict wrote: Disappointed that Xzavier hasn't posted yet. Waiting on Cloud 9's reads. Sorry. I had to go to sleep when i got home. I had to wake up early for work. i get off ay 2:15 and will deside between taking a power nap or being super active on this. that sill probably depend on how work goes. I will get some good posts in and b active before the deadline because for once, thank god, i hav 4 hours of not being at work before it  | ||
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
Im sorry for working a fuckton, im home for the rest of the day and will be active for the most part( ill be active for sure before and up to the deadline, it would be horrid if we didnt get a lynch off) my schuelde last week was this 2:30-11 pretty much every day the second half of the week, add classes in the morning to that and what else do you want me to do? my schuelde for this week is alot nicer and i can see myself being able to be present more. So ill do that. And people will be happy and like it. after reading the cases on super and jkirby, im kinda feeling like they are slightly more useful than somebody like cloud-9 who has lurked the entire fucking game. like i said a while back they were both on my scumdar, right now i want to lynch super, because his play has shown no potential to benefit town. laddies and gents, i give you: SUPERRRRR the only thing i dont understand about him is why vote me when everybody else clearly states that you dont have a tangible reason to do so? and then you make a case on a different person but dont switch your vote? I dont follow your play at all, its confusing. But its scummy because it couldnt possibly be from a town perspective. you havent dont much at all in the ways of actively scumhunt. i get that you werent here yesterday and im the last one to yell at you for lurking, but beyond that you actually havnt added anythign to the conversation, or defended yourself. Have made a point to dodge questions that a town would love to jump at in order to display innocence. him sticking to his "gut-read" is damning the town. he needs to vote on a bandwagon or we run the possibility of a no-lynch which by far benefits scum the most, we NEED to get a lynch off. jkirby also throwing his vote away is worrying me, but atleast hes made a case on the person he has voted for. basically what this boils down to is im voting Super because i havnt seen any actual real scumhunting out of him and iv seem attempts (although unsuccessful/silly) out of Jkirby, This leads me to think that he is actually trying. ##VOTE: Superfluous | ||
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
can you say why? i feel like he has more potential to be useful to town than super has? | ||
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