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s0Lstice
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Oatsmaster
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s0Lstice
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I'm looking at this: On June 30 2013 21:10 Lazermonkey wrote: I don't get how the sentences are contradicting each other : /. And its not really that much of WIFOM. If I am scum, couldn't I just say "hey, these posts by Vayne probably means he is scum" and then just push for his lynch, not giving a fuck? Instead I said "hey, these posts by Vayne are suspcious, but if he usually plays like this then its not that big of a scum tell". And no, I'm obviously not giving him auto-town status just because he is a lynch bait, that would be retarded Lol. But there is a reason lynch baits are lynch baits. They get lynched. Okay, this is what I wanted from you! As a side note, my 6th post is this Maybe I'm a bit biased in this issue (^^)but I fail to see how this makes me scum. Do you think he internalized this at all? I'm revisiting his treatment of Vayne. Before I liked that he didn't go gung-ho on him and actually cared whether or not Vayne looked typically scummy. I'm not certain anymore. He references it again here: On July 02 2013 05:00 Lazermonkey wrote: Vayne looks bad. Sad that he is a lynch bait but I'm kinda OK with killing him. I don't understand at all his reasoning for voting me. First I'm scum then town, then I'm town, then I'm null, then scum again. And that's right when the wagon on me is about to start | ||
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s0Lstice
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Oatsmaster
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Assumably he knows that WoS thinks Vayne looks townie as scum and scummy as town. But he never ever references that. BUTTT the claim. No other blue claims, really really high chance of being counterclaimed UNLESS marv is scum and he knows there are no millers. So both of them are scum or Lazer is town and marv is scum or both are town. Lazer is only scum if marv is scum. | ||
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s0Lstice
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On July 02 2013 05:13 Lazermonkey wrote: Ow, missed that. Still WoS claimed that you had played a style that didn't "fit" TL and that the most townie you you played was when you was scum, guess I misinterpreted that. Lol, I bet you didn't even open noir mafia. If you read some of the end game comments you'll see what Vivax said isn't true at all. We won that because town was lazy fuck. I had like 6 pages filter and was considered active in a game that went to D3. I wasn't good at looking townie. And even if I was, this is still a stupid conclusion to draw. Yhea, this guy looks quite townie, but he can play townie as scum as well so I'll lynch him. OH actually this is interesting. I missed it He justifies the Vayne lynch going BOTH ways. As in he wants to lynch him for looking crazy scummy...oh but he would also lynch him for looking town because he looks the most town as scum. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote: I gonna ignore the second bit cause thats pure speculation and confirmation biased. RB's d1 are normally random unless there is a blue slip or whatever. Scum got lucky. Good for them. WoS is the last to claim cause hes unlucky. Normal mini games have 2-3 blues. This game, there are 4 claimed blues. Its reasonable to think that 1 is fake. You are crazy tunneled not even on his play, on speculation and making up a theory that fits your assumption that WoS is scum. Ok so WoS is scum, and the scumteam decided to withhold their RB and for WoS to claim last. The reason why this is not really what I wouldve done as scum is because its obvious you are vengeful townie, and its obvious after the blocked KP that there is a vet. So vig is an easy claim. So therefore, the fact that WoS claimed last has nothing to do with his alignment. You admit that 4 blues is unlikely. You admit scum is extraordinarily likely. You admit likewise that luck once again struck poor WOS when he claimed the last role. Also Your case on Rayne was based on similarly biased speculation of impossible knowledge, you have no right to lecture me about that. WOS does not even consider the possibility of four blues until his head is on the chopping block. Again your asking me to take extraordinary leaps of rationalization. I am telling you it's bull and it's not going to happen. Also thinking about what you would do as scum is complete Wifom, and incredibly hypocritical considering what you just called me out on. Why are you using it to rebut facts? Oh and before you call me out on something else stupid my bilief that scum would kill vixax and leave the rest of the blues behind alive but neutered isn't WIFOM, it's just common sense provided were dumb enough not to lynch one of the blues today. BTW do you still think the situation will resolve itself night 2? If so your an idiot. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote: Oats and gumshoe, what do you think of Lazer's actions surrounding the D1 lynch? I've already mentioned that It's stupid that he regarded Vayne as lynch bait but went on to lynch him. I would be fine lynching him Fuba or WOS. | ||
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s0Lstice
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When he claimed...he thought there were only 4 minutes left right? Could he not have just randomly picked a blue and got lucky that there isn't actually a cop in the game? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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s0Lstice
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 12:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah thats true. Assumably he knows that WoS thinks Vayne looks townie as scum and scummy as town. But he never ever references that. BUTTT the claim. No other blue claims, really really high chance of being counterclaimed UNLESS marv is scum and he knows there are no millers. So both of them are scum or Lazer is town and marv is scum or both are town. Lazer is only scum if marv is scum. So you dont want to lynch Lazer, you dont want to lynch me, you dont want to lynch WOS but you know one of us scum? Why are you more confident in WOS than Lazer despite Lazers early claim? If you aren't then just lynch me or WOS. If your town it's win win. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 12:46 Oatsmaster wrote: gumshoe, im done talking with you. Because your wrong, and incapable of seeing reason, or your scum. Personally I hope it's the first. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 12:45 s0Lstice wrote: Speaking of those claims, I'm pretty interested in operating like they don't exist. That's probably a function of me being terrible with claim stuff. When he claimed...he thought there were only 4 minutes left right? Could he not have just randomly picked a blue and got lucky that there isn't actually a cop in the game? Fuba has yet to claim, WOS is scum. What more do you want? BTW do you really believe that Wos just happened to be role blocked, and that he claimed last? Why is anyone else more suspicious than him? What major contribution has WOS made outside of being not outright scummy? Why do you still put stock in Oats word? He was wrong about Rayne and hes flip flopped for seemingly no reason on WOS other than that I attacked him. | ||
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s0Lstice
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On July 03 2013 12:52 gumshoe wrote: Fuba has yet to claim, WOS is scum. What more do you want? BTW do you really believe that Wos just happened to be role blocked, and that he claimed last? Why is anyone else more suspicious than him? What major contribution has WOS made outside of being not outright scummy? Why do you still put stock in Oats word? He was wrong about Rayne and hes flip flopped for seemingly no reason on WOS other than that I attacked him. It is within the realm of possibility that he was role-blocked and claimed last. Whether it is likely or not is pretty difficult to discern. Like I just said, I'd really prefer to just ignore the claims, considering how it shook out. I want to lynch the scummiest player. I'm talking to both of you because you are here. If we only talked to people who were right all the time, it'd be a pretty quiet game. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Ok so WoS is scum, and the scumteam decided to withhold their RB and for WoS to claim last. The reason why this is not really what I wouldve done as scum is because its obvious you are vengeful townie, and its obvious after the blocked KP that there is a vet. So vig is an easy claim. So therefore, the fact that WoS claimed last has nothing to do with his alignment. Everyone please read this, no it isnt WIFOM. And no WoS isnt scum for claiming last. Which seems to be your main point Gumshoe. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 13:02 s0Lstice wrote: It is within the realm of possibility that he was role-blocked and claimed last. Whether it is likely or not is pretty difficult to discern. Like I just said, I'd really prefer to just ignore the claims, considering how it shook out. I want to lynch the scummiest player. I'm talking to both of you because you are here. If we only talked to people who were right all the time, it'd be a pretty quiet game. Sigh, no one gives my claim credence because I might be scum, but they wont kill me because I might be town : P. Revenge townie 22. Seriously if I was Marv and I came in here with this case yall would doubtlessly be down with it. Well maybe not Marv this game XD. Though I'll agree with you for now, they're are other scum out there. Also how do you feel about Fuba not having claimed? They're are also no spots left to claim but survivor. Will you believe him if thats what he decides? | ||
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s0Lstice
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Just from catching up with the thread...I feel better about Stutters and want to double down on Fuba. Stutters' case on the latter was...I think the only case I've ever seen him make. Since then, he hasn't really done anything that I find objectionable. He argued with Fuba with what looked to me like genuine fervor. The more I look at Fuba's actions around the D1 lynch, the more I dislike it. Lazer is my 2nd atm. He didn't seem to give a shit about the how or why his vote ended up where it did. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Gumshoe, why are you dismissing everything I said because I was wrong about 1 read? Everyone please read this, no it isnt WIFOM. And no WoS isnt scum for claiming last. Which seems to be your main point Gumshoe. That and of four blues one pretty much has to be scum. And that be got randomly role blocked. and that he was sure there was a fake blue. But ignore all that in favour of what is easy to shut down. Fact is WOS is fishy, you still dont think hes scum fine. Just dont treat it as something it isn't. And guessing what scum would do is 100 percent wifom. I've done it as well and I cant lend to much stock into it. I thought you were done talking to me btw? Press a case and lynch me or go away, stop trying to make a duck not duck. | ||
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