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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
June 30 2013 23:35 GMT
#401
Jesus sorry iGrok, thought it was over.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 30 2013 23:38 GMT
#402
So here's what happened.

My cohost, Dandel Ion, was instructed to send out role pms by copying the character's IMDB biography. Instead, I've found out that some were written in German, some were written as jokes, and other such things. As a result, some people still don't have a proper role pm, there was confusion about roles, and I am very, very pissed off.

After consulting with some other hosts, the consensus is to simply restart the game with random roles. But I know you guys have already invested some time into this game, so I am hesitant to do that. Therefore, I'm putting it up to a vote. You may vote either here or via PM to me, with either "##Restart" or "##Continue". As soon as I have a majority opinion either way, we will proceed.

I'm very sorry to all of you guys. If there is anyone who still is confused about their role, I've updated the OP with a spoiler that explains each role. If you are unsure as to who you are, PM me with that also.

Dandel Ion is no longer cohosting this game.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 30 2013 23:39 GMT
#403
##continue
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
June 30 2013 23:43 GMT
#404
##continue

No role Pm has been posted yet, should be fine.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#405
##continue
table for two on a tv tray
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
June 30 2013 23:49 GMT
#406
continue.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
June 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#407
##continue
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 30 2013 23:52 GMT
#408
##continue

Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 30 2013 23:53 GMT
#409
wtf
A backwards poet writes inverse.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 30 2013 23:54 GMT
#410
On July 01 2013 08:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
wtf

Do not post in this thread.

If you have an issue we can take it up postgame.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 23:57:13
June 30 2013 23:54 GMT
#411
damn straight i have an issue
whatevs
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 01 2013 00:30 GMT
#412
So will this affect the deadline if we continue or will it be at the same time as it was, just pushed back a day if needed type deal?
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 00:37:10
July 01 2013 00:35 GMT
#413
Game continues. Deadline will not be pushed back, as only ~ 2 hours we missed.

To reiterate, the game is now unpaused, please continue. Thanks for working with me to sort this out.

I do need everyone else to go ahead and send in their role PMs, and I have changed one rule in the OP:
It is no longer allowed to post your role pm. You may only post your role name.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 01 2013 00:41 GMT
#414
YEAH.

Ok rayn misread something earlier.
DOESNT matter.

I still wanna lynch you.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 01 2013 00:42 GMT
#415
ok yeah explain your switch on stutters please rayn.
No gg, No skill.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 01 2013 00:46 GMT
#416
I'll be semi afk the rest of the night. Expect a post here or there but nothing too major. Fubas last post was pretty fucking scummy, if he doesn't step up his game I'd really look into him over JJD.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 01 2013 00:47 GMT
#417
And I'll be back in full force tomorrow for like 8 hours leading up to the deadline, so hang out with me tomorrow EUs.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 01 2013 00:53 GMT
#418
Woot, game on! Hello Vivax lets talk.

On July 01 2013 06:44 Vivax wrote:
piggybacking, flip-flopping, wishy-washy, buddying, recycling

banning these reasons from your cases will dramatically improve your scumhunting, it will actually put you in need to explain how people's actions make them scum in detail.

You don't do that just by putting their play into a category labeled "scummy"



Ok Vivax this is bullshit right here. You are effectively admitting that Jar Jar has done all these things "piggybacking, flip-flopping, wishy-washy, buddying, recycling" and yet you decide the best approach is to coddle? Suggest how he could do better? This is not a newbie mafia game. Unless you want to recant this statement I dont see how you could view Rayne as any more guilty than Jar Jar. Also let me ask you one question (sigh, here we go again), is the player that claims miller more likely than every other player at the start to be a townie?

It's already been established that theyre's pretty much a 60 percent risk factor in him being called out, yet that hasn't happened (though everyones still waiting on you to reveal your pm Marv T_T) which means Marv is already more likely town than the rest of us (who are 50/50) though not town for sure of course. But whats so scummy instead of neutral about backing those odds albiet aggressively?

In other words How is Rayne saying Marv is town for sure any more damming than Oat saying Rayne is scum for sure? In the end neither can prove they're claim until the die is cast, both convictions are null, they dont say anything about alignment just about the way the players have chosen to play the game. Jar Jar's posting on the other hand is objectively bad/scummy, I dont even have to convince you of that, you've said as much yourself.

Jar Jar is the day 1 lynch and your indirect way of confronting him is unsettling to say the least and echoes Oat's similar dismissal of the charges against him. Also with the whole miller thing I feel like your just dancing around technicalities and Wifom, arguing over the intricacies of what some people typed in a hasty tense situation. Let it die, for the moment at least, stop patting your own ego by thinking you've found the mother of all scum slips. If your actually town ceace tunnelling the miller stuff and realize that they're is a better/cleaner pick then Rayne. Which I am sure on some level at least, you already know.

FOS: Vivax
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 00:58 GMT
#419
On July 01 2013 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah, i had not reread what Stutters had said after that, and when i started catching up i was posting when i read people's filters. That's also when i realized what Oats posted about him, this post:
On June 30 2013 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
So you are saying as scum stutters wants to throw suspicion on Rayn for something that scum dont know. I dont think this is really all the believable

The rest i said about Stutters is why he is only slightly leaning on town and not more.


Funny. What oats posted was the exact opposite of what you claimed.

You said:
Show nested quote +
rofl what's this? An accusation? Now if i was mafia how would i know how many millers there are in the game?


and this:

Show nested quote +
So you are saying as scum stutters wants to throw suspicion on Rayn for something that scum dont know. I dont think this is really all the believable


swayed your opinion? Cause Oats just said the exact opposite of what you said?Without any further clarification?

Yes, what Oats said made me think Stutters comment again in a light "would it make sense from a scum perspective to say so".


Then, you got ultimately persuaded by these posts between your posts in question?

You went from scum to I don't know to town, with these posts between the "I don't know" and the "town":

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 02:46 Stutters695 wrote:
This is why I thought he was town.

The miller stuff is eh (a lot more damming now with Vivax's post however). Like it isn't an unreasonable assumption and his reaction to my "scummiest post in the thread" was almost exactly how I'd react. I'd expect scum to be much more concerned with justifying their stance immediately rather than just laugh it off and not elaborate until pressure is on them. I reacted almost identically to an accusation from vivax in roulette that I felt was ridiculous.

In addition to that, he's one of the most active players.

I can pull specifics if you want but that's the rundown.


Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 03:47 Stutters695 wrote:
You're misunderstanding. I'm leaning scum on him now, that was explaining why I thought he was town when I woke up this morning and did a quick skim.

Although I do think accepting a miller claim isn't unreasonable. It essentially is just having someone say "hey, don't check me because you'll waste your power (pre-parity announcement) and cause a mislynch."

It doesn't in any way confirm Marv, but ensures he is judged on the basis of his actual play. That he's so sure Marv is town is worrisome but I can see where he is coming from to a certain extent. I also don't like how many people are slipping by saying absolutely nothing. Even if we lynch him we should hear his reads and force these hardcore lurkers to post something.


Explain what you found so townie about these posts please.

The first bolded part because yeah, that's how a townie would react and the fact that he acknowledges it instead of pressing it further gives him townie points.

The second bolded part is pure town. Even though he has a scumread on me he is trying to get the silent people to talk, and wants to hear more from me in case of a mislynch (which it would be). As i said, pure townie behaviour, unlike... yes.. you, who have avoided talking about WoS/JarJar all game.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 01 2013 01:06 GMT
#420
GUMSHOE.

The point with Rayn is that only mafia know the alignments, therefore their behavior reflects that. Rayn Knows that Marv is town, look at his posting. How does he know? Cause hes scum.
also

It's already been established that theyre's pretty much a 60 percent risk factor in him being called out, yet that hasn't happened (though everyones still waiting on you to reveal your pm Marv T_T) which means Marv is already more likely town than the rest of us (who are 50/50) though not town for sure of course. But whats so scummy instead of neutral about backing those odds albiet aggressively?

Um odds for us being town are 9/12. I dont know, this whole sentence doesnt make sense. Who cares about the odds of marv being scum or town? Whuttt....
No gg, No skill.
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