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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Stutters695
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 01 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats i don't want to talk with you until you stop acting like a complete idiot. answer that question please. | ||
Vivax
21948 Posts
On July 01 2013 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah, i had not reread what Stutters had said after that, and when i started catching up i was posting when i read people's filters. That's also when i realized what Oats posted about him, this post: The rest i said about Stutters is why he is only slightly leaning on town and not more. Funny. What oats posted was the exact opposite of what you claimed. You said: rofl what's this? An accusation? Now if i was mafia how would i know how many millers there are in the game? and this: So you are saying as scum stutters wants to throw suspicion on Rayn for something that scum dont know. I dont think this is really all the believable swayed your opinion? Cause Oats just said the exact opposite of what you said?Without any further clarification? Then, you got ultimately persuaded by these posts between your posts in question? You went from scum to I don't know to town, with these posts between the "I don't know" and the "town": On July 01 2013 02:46 Stutters695 wrote: This is why I thought he was town. The miller stuff is eh (a lot more damming now with Vivax's post however). Like it isn't an unreasonable assumption and his reaction to my "scummiest post in the thread" was almost exactly how I'd react. I'd expect scum to be much more concerned with justifying their stance immediately rather than just laugh it off and not elaborate until pressure is on them. I reacted almost identically to an accusation from vivax in roulette that I felt was ridiculous. In addition to that, he's one of the most active players. I can pull specifics if you want but that's the rundown. On July 01 2013 03:47 Stutters695 wrote: You're misunderstanding. I'm leaning scum on him now, that was explaining why I thought he was town when I woke up this morning and did a quick skim. Although I do think accepting a miller claim isn't unreasonable. It essentially is just having someone say "hey, don't check me because you'll waste your power (pre-parity announcement) and cause a mislynch." It doesn't in any way confirm Marv, but ensures he is judged on the basis of his actual play. That he's so sure Marv is town is worrisome but I can see where he is coming from to a certain extent. I also don't like how many people are slipping by saying absolutely nothing. Even if we lynch him we should hear his reads and force these hardcore lurkers to post something. Explain what you found so townie about these posts please. | ||
Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 01 2013 07:29 Vivax wrote: JESUZ. Okay, I'll try one more time to explain. If you still don't get it then I'll just drop the issue. Maybe I'm just being terribly unclear, but w/e. I don't think this is a very important point TBH and I'd rather focus on something more productive...Again... I don't know, am I reading something wrong here? I see you claiming that marv is probably town cause there can't be two millers. But you just stated that you didn't assume that there had to be a miller. On the contrary, your post in question is footed on the idea that there is a miller and that it's marv, and that he's town cause there can't be two millers. What I thought when I wrote that post: 1. There are probebly not two millers 2. There are either 1 or 0 millers 3. Assume Marv is not playing risky as scum (which I was wrong about, which is why I got abit unsure of my read on marv.) Now 4. Assume marv IS scum. 5. Assume marv is at least as smart as myself thus 6. Marv knows there is one or zero millers in the game. 7. Marv knows that if there are one miller in the game and he claims, he is fucked. 8. Marv decides not to claim. combine that with 9. marv claims miller. 10. We just went through why he isn't scum, so naturally we would think he is scum. | ||
Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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Vivax
21948 Posts
At least you checked if it was possible that marv would fakeclaim, and you put out your reasoning for assuming he's town. That's why we lynch Rayn today and not you. Don't you think it's a sweet idea? | ||
Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 01 2013 07:50 Vivax wrote: No. Almost anyone is better than Rayn at this point.Well what's sure is that your explanation is easier to buy than Rayn's. At least you checked if it was possible that marv would fakeclaim, and you put out your reasoning for assuming he's town. That's why we lynch Rayn today and not you. Don't you think it's a sweet idea? | ||
Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
The game is now paused. Do not post. I will try to resolve this as soon as I can. | ||
Vivax
21948 Posts
No, I'm taking that back. You are also a good lynch. The reasoning you mention now is not a reasoning you mentioned at the time, where you argued from the point of view that there had to be one miller, and that the miller was marv. You could easily be lying now. But it's a matter of belief to judge you for that, now that you offered an explanation that is not possible to be confirmed based on your earlier post. I still think you fell for the same mistake Rayn fell for. tl; dr: Now you say you thought "extra" stuff at the time, but at the time you didn't mention that. Hence I don't know if it's true. Now you say that you thought marv was town cause he would not have balls to do that as scum, but in the post you claim that he's town cause there can only be one miller. BUT, marv himself said that he fakeclaimed miller as scum in another game (which you wanted to look up, as if marv would lie about that lol, for what?Does he need to lie to discredit his claim?) With all of this you mention now, your reasoning boils down to the fact that regardless of the amount of millers, marv would be town cause not ballsy enough to do that. BUT it's bullshit, cause he said himself he was, and your post used an entirely different reasoning, different from this one: 3. Assume Marv is not playing risky as scum (which I was wrong about, which is why I got abit unsure of my read on marv.) 7. Marv knows that if there are one miller in the game and he claims, he is fucked. | ||
iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:38 Vivax wrote: Good point. I just didnt notice anything else scummy from you nor was I really looking. I only noticed it from rayn after I went back into his filter.JarJar, question for you. Rayn gave Lazer a townread as reaction to me doing the same. Why did you call Rayn out but not me? | ||
iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Hassybaby is now cohosting this game. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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Vivax
21948 Posts
On July 01 2013 08:22 JarJarDrinks wrote: Good point. I just didnt notice anything else scummy from you nor was I really looking. I only noticed it from rayn after I went back into his filter. Who do you think could be scum outside of s0lstice? As you may have noticed I'm for Rayn and Lazer scum atm. Their explanations become increasingly dangly, hence I'd like you to take a look at the matter and comment on it. If you don't think they're worthy of the noose, please give me a rundown on why I should be voting s0lstice instead of them. | ||
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