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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 16:23 GMT
#1871
Fuba's claim is the real one.
My bet is placed.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 16:24 GMT
#1872
On July 05 2013 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
well Vivax, fuba isnt doing the WoS is scum thing either.


Fuba didn't know if WoS was fakeclaiming, whether he's lying or not.

whattttttttt???????????????


If you're survivor and the guy before you fakeclaims vigi, you don't know if he's vigi or scum.
But if you're survivor and the guy fakeclaims survivor, you know he's scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 16:33 GMT
#1875
On July 05 2013 01:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 05 2013 01:24 Vivax wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
well Vivax, fuba isnt doing the WoS is scum thing either.


Fuba didn't know if WoS was fakeclaiming, whether he's lying or not.

whattttttttt???????????????


If you're survivor and the guy before you fakeclaims vigi, you don't know if he's vigi or scum.
But if you're survivor and the guy fakeclaims survivor, you know he's scum.

Ok let me get this straight.
WoS claims survivor and doesnt call Fuba scum and therefore WoS is scum.
Fuba claims survivor and doesnt call WoS scum and therefore WoS is scum.

How does this make ANY SENSE Vivax?


Who cares. I didn't see the part WoS wrote anyway, and I already posted all I had to post to bring my point across.
Tell me why you think which one of them is more likely if you want.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 16:40 GMT
#1878
On July 05 2013 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 01:33 Vivax wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:24 Vivax wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
On July 05 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
well Vivax, fuba isnt doing the WoS is scum thing either.


Fuba didn't know if WoS was fakeclaiming, whether he's lying or not.

whattttttttt???????????????


If you're survivor and the guy before you fakeclaims vigi, you don't know if he's vigi or scum.
But if you're survivor and the guy fakeclaims survivor, you know he's scum.

Ok let me get this straight.
WoS claims survivor and doesnt call Fuba scum and therefore WoS is scum.
Fuba claims survivor and doesnt call WoS scum and therefore WoS is scum.

How does this make ANY SENSE Vivax?


Who cares. I didn't see the part WoS wrote anyway, and I already posted all I had to post to bring my point across.
Tell me why you think which one of them is more likely if you want.

Apparently you cared.
If you dont wanna play, then dont.


Question: Why would scumfuba say he got no fakeclaims?
Scum say things for a purpose.
It's a little thing, but it's one of those little things that makes me confident he isn't scum.
I see it as a real survivor laying out all cards he has left in the hand.

Marv and Wos instead are fueling the theory that scum knew the setup and hence got fakeclaims, so they can sway the lynch from WoS.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 17:03 GMT
#1881
On July 05 2013 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 05 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lying isnt against the rules.

Lol.
But yeah I agree with Marv, in my experience, too dickish if its mafia is a good heuristic.

JJD, lets say if you claim you die. Town says mass claim d2. Do you feel fucked?


Lying isn't the same as lying about what hosts told you. In my opinion at least.


I've been searching for "dick" in your filter but it keeps highlighting your name
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 17:10 GMT
#1882
Ultimately it will be proven by the flip if I'm right or not.

I don't have enough confidence into my abilities to convince this town. And I'm too lazy to try and prove otherwise to myself.
Hence I'm just emoing. If you guys don't elaborate the game the same way I do, then it would simply take too much effort to let you take that perspective, and it's not even guaranteed that you would read it, or understand it.

It's pretty simple setup-wise, and with NK-analysis.

You are only looking at this shit between WoS and Fuba.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 18:12 GMT
#1908
It's a cute show between WoS and Lazer
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 22:32 GMT
#1976
Well gj.

It will be funny after this night when cop doesn't get roleblocked or killed though (according to my theory), with my theory, all he can effectively do is confirm townies with his role, or Landa.

And marv the supertownie millerclaimer will stay alive too.
And what WoS is going to do : He needs to guarantee us that he won't roleblock the cop.

I wish you much fun making plans in your hidden pits, scum. This night might give you trouble.

Rayn might have hit 3 /3 before dying.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#1980
On July 05 2013 07:33 marvellosity wrote:
Your theory is already debunked because fuba wasn't one of your 3 and he just flipped.

Gonna start playing yet, Vivax?


Why did you bus him though.
Gotta take a better look at it.

Lazer + marv is still entirely possible.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 23:00 GMT
#1985
On July 05 2013 07:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 05 2013 07:32 Vivax wrote:
Well gj.

It will be funny after this night when cop doesn't get roleblocked or killed though (according to my theory), with my theory, all he can effectively do is confirm townies with his role, or Landa.

And marv the supertownie millerclaimer will stay alive too.
And what WoS is going to do : He needs to guarantee us that he won't roleblock the cop.

I wish you much fun making plans in your hidden pits, scum. This night might give you trouble.

Rayn might have hit 3 /3 before dying.

See here's the thing. I feel like I should somehow be giving scum a sporting chance since they just took such a hit. (Even though it was entirely their own fault.) But my problem is I don't know how scum wants me to help them!

So I guess I can't really do anything unless they let me know what to do somehow.

You know for a guy who was ranting and raving about how I was scum Vivax, I'm surprised you'd be willing to trust me even if I DID guarantee you something.


I'll trust you if you roleblock someone tonight.

The only sporting chance you can give scum is to roleblock the DT.
Scum Lazer can claim RB "Sorry bro no check". If he's town then you did scum a favour.
We should ask him what he thinks of it hehehe...

The thing is, whatever you do, you will have to conceal your real intentions.
Let's assume for a moment you will jail me and stop the next attempted shot from scum.

Scum will shoot you if they know you do that.

Needless to say that if you help scum and not town, you'll be on the lynching list tomorrow.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 23:10 GMT
#1990
Digging this up from the D1 deadline.

Situation: Lynch candidates Lazer Fuba WoS

Marv comes in and proposes Vayne, the mislynch, claiming to be unsure on the others, yet still not digging further into them when deadline is "extended".

On July 02 2013 05:44 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 02 2013 05:42 Vivax wrote:
On July 02 2013 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On July 02 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2013 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 02 2013 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you marv think about Lazer having Vayne as a scumread for all the game and not pushing him at any point until 30min before the lynch? That does not raise red flags at all?
You realize I was gone all day, right?

Yet you have posted a lot yesterday. Instead of pushing Vayne you hopped on JarJar "because nobody would lynch Vayne with you".

On July 02 2013 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
On July 02 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He has similar suspects to me, besides Stutters. He has good reasoning behind his posts. He is looking into places i think are right.


you mean this?

Yes.


they're shocking reasons and you need to re-read his filter.


No, you need to post reasons to lynch Vayne.
You just finished reading the game and pretend to know that WoS and Vayne are scum.

First you ask for WoS to be lynched.
When that doesn't work, you start pushing Vayne.

You clearly don't want to lynch neither Lazer nor fuba.


Not sure about fuba and Lazer is trying too hard.

Vayne doesn't care about the game and Vayne is always at the forefront of town when he's town (and much less so as scum). I understand from something in his filter that he was away at some point, but having returned he's just given lists of people he's happy to lynch into and nothing else of substance. His standing in town is precisely the opposite of what I expect from town-Vayne and much more what I'd expect from scum-Vayne.

I can't point to anything in his filter that I found townie, in addition I already pointed out soemthing that I think flies totally in the face of his town MO.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 04 2013 23:13 GMT
#1992
Oh and he psoted this previously:

On July 02 2013 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
fuba, you need to justify your scumreads to me because your posting is extremely dense and more obfuscating than i usually find it.


I'd think that such a post implies marv finding something suspicious, but afterwards, he doesn't pursue anything of that sort, or look for examples why fuba could be scum.
He picks Vayne and pulls it through, effectively booting out the other two options which probably were his scumbuddies.

On July 02 2013 05:58 marvellosity wrote:
Just sheep me and I can deal with the flak whatever the flip is.

Also I'll be able to read fuba tomorrow much better than Vayne xDDD
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 04:20 GMT
#2024
What is this sudden idea that scum got fakeclaims.

You just lynched someone who proves you wrong, he got partially outed cause he lakced a fakeclaim.
Also I think there is no Hitler and Lazer + marv are fakeclaims, hence why I say that the only source of roleblocks is WoS.

But you'll see for yourself when cop and miller are still alive.
We'll see.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 18:00 GMT
#2143
Don't worry about marv guys, the supertownie confirmed miller will stay alive, magically.

Maybe look at his scumgames in his profile. Just to get an idea of how often he gets caught.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 18:31 GMT
#2146
On July 06 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On July 06 2013 03:00 Vivax wrote:
Don't worry about marv guys, the supertownie confirmed miller will stay alive, magically.

Maybe look at his scumgames in his profile. Just to get an idea of how often he gets caught.
I really hope you get shot tonight. It would make this game so much easier for everyone!


I agree.
I'm totally useless and totally not worth a shot.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 18:32 GMT
#2147
Which will make it even more interesting when marv and lazer stay alive.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 19:20 GMT
#2150
On July 06 2013 03:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vivax, am I understanding it correctly when I say that me and marv still is your top 2 scum reads?


I just need to see what happens tonight.
You should actually claim and discuss your check target.

Unless you can argue that there is a scum roleblocker.
But there isn't and hence cop + miller + survivor become unlikely without scum able to do anything..

Else explain why u haven't been roleblocked N1 after claiming.

You and marv wouldn't be able to survive in a better town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 19:23 GMT
#2151
If you don't claim your check target tonight you'll simply greencheck some random dude, or maybe your own teammate, or maybe WoS.

Actually it makes sense for you to keep saying WoS is scum so you already have the semi-confirmed survivor to claim your fake check on.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#2158
On July 06 2013 04:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 04:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 06 2013 03:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vivax, am I understanding it correctly when I say that me and marv still is your top 2 scum reads?


I just need to see what happens tonight.
You should actually claim and discuss your check target.

Unless you can argue that there is a scum roleblocker.
But there isn't and hence cop + miller + survivor become unlikely without scum able to do anything..

Else explain why u haven't been roleblocked N1 after claiming.

You and marv wouldn't be able to survive in a better town.


you literally have zero basis to assert this.


There was no N1 roleblock.
There you have ur basis.
Doesn't cost scum anything to RB the cop.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 05 2013 19:50 GMT
#2161
On July 06 2013 04:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 04:47 Vivax wrote:
On July 06 2013 04:42 marvellosity wrote:
On July 06 2013 04:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 06 2013 03:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vivax, am I understanding it correctly when I say that me and marv still is your top 2 scum reads?


I just need to see what happens tonight.
You should actually claim and discuss your check target.

Unless you can argue that there is a scum roleblocker.
But there isn't and hence cop + miller + survivor become unlikely without scum able to do anything..

Else explain why u haven't been roleblocked N1 after claiming.

You and marv wouldn't be able to survive in a better town.


you literally have zero basis to assert this.


There was no N1 roleblock.
There you have ur basis.
Doesn't cost scum anything to RB the cop.


How do you know this?


Wow, your questions become stupider by the minute.
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