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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 14:41 GMT
#1470
On July 03 2013 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD so cute.
Vivax shot his scummembers for towncred TWICE


No.

When I shot Toad, it was cause we gave up. I gave up the same day I took the cred for the shot, and we agreed on it in the chat.

The other time, it was with Dandel's smurf. He asked me to shoot him, and I had fakeclaimed vigi so I had to shoot someone, so I shot scum.

You're telling me I was in need to sacrifice a KP and risk getting cc'd when I was in no danger of lynch at all?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 14:43 GMT
#1473
I mean yes, I shot them.
But those were extraordinary circumstances.

It doesn't matter shit talking about this cause Lazer Wos and marv are scum. By some extremely remote chance on of them isn't and it's actually gumshoe in place of one.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 14:48 GMT
#1479
On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside.


Dude.
If we lynch scum we bring KP down to 1.

Do you think one of the vanilla names fakeclaimed?

If you don't, then LAZER AND WOS HAVE TO BE SCUM. That is 100 % sure.

If you think I'm scum, then marv and gumshoe are town.
If you think marv and me are town, then gumshoe is scum.
If you think gumshoe and me are town, then marv is scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 14:50 GMT
#1481
On July 03 2013 23:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Killing fuba is worse than no lynching IMO.

I think gumshoe is too infuriating to be scum.

So yeah WoS is scum.


Why not marv, he has to be scum too if you think me and gum are town.
Seriously lynch him first.
The guy is the scum who shits up the thread the most.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 14:52 GMT
#1486
On July 03 2013 23:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 23:48 Vivax wrote:
On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside.


Dude.
If we lynch scum we bring KP down to 1.
And if we lynch town, we lose.


And if you lynch survivor, you lose a guy who can turn the tides for town with his JK.
Doesn't matter for him who he wins with, he's a potential medic. We need his compliance.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 15:01 GMT
#1498
"Vivax won't die because he's insane"

He only got shot N1, pushing Lazer and marv as scumreads with the other dead townie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 15:03 GMT
#1500
JarJar come on.

You look at the wrong places.

The setup, the claims, the night actions, the play.

I don't understand at all how it's so hard to figure out that these dudes are scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 15:05 GMT
#1502
Marv doesn't have any other reads cause he said he needed to see WoS' flip first.
Does it seem legit when he has to know that there has to be scum among the other claimers?

He should have gumshoe and Lazer as scumreads.

If he doesn't, he should tell us which vanilla name claims look suspicious to him.

He's doing nothing of that, no analysis, only staying o nthe front page shitting up the thread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 16:10 GMT
#1532
On July 04 2013 01:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
And even then, why not claim right away D1?


Cause he'd be the guaranteed not-town lynch.
That's pretty much a nobrainer.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 23:21 GMT
#1631
It's mind boggling.

Marv: "WoS is scum cause shooting me is so bad he can't be town."
WoS: "Sup I only told you a lot of bullshit"
Marv: "Oh nice well guess I can believe that from you let's go for fuba"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 23:42 GMT
#1637
Of course marv agrees on switching.
WoS is his fucking scumbuddy
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 23:44 GMT
#1639
Marv said survivor shouldn't get lynched D1 TO ME.
He agrees with you on claiming survivor being terrible for survivor???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 23:51 GMT
#1644
There is no Hitler, marv claimed miller, lazer claimed cop, WoS picked the last remaining role and claimed a roleblock.
See you in fucking postgame. If you need to find scum, read my posts and Rayn's, the guys who scum chose to shot.
Holy shit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 23:53 GMT
#1646
Claimed cop, claimed miller alive.
Cop not roleblocked.

I'm the only guy pushing marv and Lazer.
Where is scum agreeing with my theory if they did that shit to frame them?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 03 2013 23:55 GMT
#1648
On July 04 2013 08:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 08:51 Vivax wrote:
There is no Hitler, marv claimed miller, lazer claimed cop, WoS picked the last remaining role and claimed a roleblock.
See you in fucking postgame. If you need to find scum, read my posts and Rayn's, the guys who scum chose to shot.
Holy shit.

So sure of yourself.
That's pretty cute.
Anyway 2 more hours.
I don't actually give a shit about what happens to me at this point as I've already assumed that I've lost. Maybe the actual thinking townies don't want the game lost for them as well.


If you don't give a shit then go away.
No one requests your presence.

Only your scalp and a swastika in your forehead
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 04 2013 09:43 GMT
#1751
No marv or Lazer lynch today it appears.

##Vote WoS
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 04 2013 09:54 GMT
#1753
On July 04 2013 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
thx for your contributions lately Vivax, they've been real eye-openers x


Well sorry I don't have the time to exchange inflammatory posts with assholes
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 04 2013 16:08 GMT
#1856
Look, it's really not hard to find out who the liar is.
See the time of fuba's claim?
See the first posts from WoS since that happened?

Is he communicating in any way that he's SURE that fuba must be scum cause of the alleged survivor fakeclaim?
No, cause WoS made up the whole fucking story. He's scum.

On July 03 2013 10:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll be back later on after my guy's first nightfeed.
Oats for the record I think your original idea made the most sense but now I don't know what to do about the hole gumshoe has climbed into. We should at least start looking into which of the greens are the most scummy and then we can decide later on if it makes more sense to lynch blue or green. (It might make more sense to lynch blue due to simple probability but as you said it might work itself out through N2 actions so I'm not sure.)


On July 03 2013 17:19 mkfuba07 wrote:
Sorry for getting back so late, but it looks like a lot of you figured out my role already. I'm Hans Landa - German Survivor Jailkeeper. No jail last night, since it really didn't look like I was going to be NK'd, and after that shitstorm with marv/rayn/lazer/etc there were likely better vigi shots. If WoS is telling the truth, then it looks like scum has a roleblocker and saw him as possibly blue. If he's lying, then... he's scum.

To make up for the Vayne lynch a bit (that came way too close for me :S), I'll offer that I, at least, didn't get a fake claim. It feels like if scum had been given fake claims, then I would have gotten one, since this setup makes massclaims really likely, and it feels like it's gonna be really hard to walk that line between town and scum.

Oh yeah, marv, I thought I responded to your questions in my nested post. You asked what the contradictions were, and I answered it, and you asked what the "possibly scummy but sometimes townie" elements of stutters' filter were, and I answered that too. Lemme know if there's something else I missed. And if you could actually comment on what I wrote, that'd be great, instead of doing what everyone apparently does with my posts and skimming it, saying nothing, and pulling it out when they're strarving for scumreads.

Also, though I didn't have time or necessarily the inclination to comment on it before, I'm pretty reasonably convinced you're town. Rayn's later posts about you were giving me a similar feeling to the post by oats I brought up earlier regarding rayn himself. There was an incredible amount of confirmation bias going on that even I could see, and I agreed with him that in that situation it was scummy for you to be suspicious of lazer. I also think your responses were in line with townie marv. I can't explain away the main reason for the scumread, since I still think the logic is for the most part sound, but with the clusterfuck of claims this thread's become at the moment, it's hard to analyze anything clearly.

It *is* clear, however, that there's something fishy going on with the claims, though I cba to find out what it is at the moment. I haven't slept in almost 48 hours, my brain is slowing to the speed of a snail, and I almost passed out 4 5 times while writing this post. I'll be back tomorrow, gonna need like half a day of sleep... Read what I wrote about stutters, and tell me what's actually wrong with the reasoning (not just marv, but anyone who actually disagrees with it).



On July 04 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phoneposting atm
awww nobody wants to react to my posting
makes me sad

Town:
Im dead anyway so I honestly couldnt care less if you guys want to hand the game to scum but id seriously consider hearing me out when the time comes

scumteam:
you forced me into this when I was trying to be all nice to you. i suppose you didnt have a choice considering fuba had to claim late and might have been lynched today especially if he took the miller claim but now you can be damn sure ill push for it.
that is of course unless town doesnt care about what i have to say in which case the games is yours gentlmen


On July 04 2013 01:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
so nice not to have to lie anymore. hell i didnt even lie this much when i was scum


On July 04 2013 01:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
so nice not to have to lie anymore. hell i didnt even lie this much when i was scum


On July 04 2013 01:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:
On July 04 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phoneposting atm
awww nobody wants to react to my posting
makes me sad

Town:
Im dead anyway so I honestly couldnt care less if you guys want to hand the game to scum but id seriously consider hearing me out when the time comes

scumteam:
you forced me into this when I was trying to be all nice to you. i suppose you didnt have a choice considering fuba had to claim late and might have been lynched today especially if he took the miller claim but now you can be damn sure ill push for it.
that is of course unless town doesnt care about what i have to say in which case the games is yours gentlmen


Could really do with you explaining your terribad shot on me if you're town, dear.

oh im not.


This is his actual vote explanation, it's not HEY GUYS FUBA IS SCUM, it's "well, I'll simply vote the other lynch option".

On July 04 2013 06:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and I suppose while we're at it, a lady does need to stay alive, too.
##Unvote
##Vote: fuba dooba

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 04 2013 16:14 GMT
#1861
I'm the survivor. I don't give a shit about hunting scum,


Wrong, you need to stay alive, and scumhunting helps you at that when you claim your role to town.
Pointing to fuba being scum immediately would have been your chance to show some good will and not get lynched when counterclaiming.

With your posts not showing that, you show lack of the mindset of someone knowing that someone fakeclaimed.
You should have known that whoever gets lynched first, the other would have been proven a liar.

You didn't act according to that knowledge.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 04 2013 16:15 GMT
#1863
On July 05 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
well Vivax, fuba isnt doing the WoS is scum thing either.


Fuba didn't know if WoS was fakeclaiming, whether he's lying or not.
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