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On July 05 2013 13:40 TanGeng wrote: /in ? has this started? Nope, it starts Saturday. | ||
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On July 07 2013 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not give explanations unless asked if i don't like to. Noone has asked me about that. Why are you defending geript? What do you think of our exchange? He basically asked you reasons for your read and then you responded by saying no one asked you for reasons instead of giving some. | ||
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On July 07 2013 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually Xatalos is almost definitely town. so why are you nuking him? | ||
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One of the people I find scummy is Vayne. He voted pretty early based off of one post and after that hasn't done much. On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote: Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian... filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town. When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that. If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with That post is the most of his thoughts he's given and all it is is repeating that he suspects Johnny and then making a read on somebody with no meaningful posts. I feel he voted early to look eager in looking for scum and is trying to use that to go under the radar. To me it seems like little output from about 20 posts. I agree with the suspicion about Onegu. On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote: Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around. The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame. The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either. ##VOTE: Chezinu Here he says we need answers from Chezinu or Chezinu should be lynched but then votes in the same post. Why not wait and see if there's a reply? I think he might just be trying to start a bandwagon. On July 08 2013 01:07 Onegu wrote: Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet. And here he justifies fluff posting as being new to the game. I don't think that makes sense, regardless of experience, its not hard to take some time between posts to write something constructive instead of just spouting fluff ##Vote: Onegu Looking at Abenson's filter, it's hard to say much from 2 posts and since both posts are close together he might just be busy, but he really avoided saying anything about anyone. | ||
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On July 08 2013 12:56 Onegu wrote: Meaning if he answed the questions I will unvote him. ##:UNVOTE He hasn't answered about his nuke choice though. He just changed the subject by talking about his role. He explained why he launched a nuke but not why he launched it at Xata. | ||
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On July 08 2013 13:42 Onegu wrote: This is his reason for launching at xata I think, I think he means xata launched at him so he launched back. And here is the reason he launched. It seems that launched nukes are announced and the only nukes detected have been the ones at Xata and M_Z. Regardless of whether you're right or not, he's still avoiding giving a real answer. | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:20 Alakaslam wrote: MajuGarzett, tunnel much, hmm? On Onegu? His vote switch seemed to fit with my read, it would be dumb not to point it out. What would be the point in not highlighting evidence? And it seemed the most relevant topic in the thread at the time. | ||
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On July 09 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: That was sarcasm, you bought Chezinu's revenge nuke on Xatalos, why is this one different? So then give an actual reason why you launched a nuke at MZ despite telling people to nuke Chez and lying about not having a nuke. | ||
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On July 09 2013 18:41 CaucasianAsian wrote: Did WaveofShadow explain why he redirected from Meapak? Not really. On July 09 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm a one-shot Hacker. I can redirect any nuke anywhere else once in the game. I've had a pretty decent townread on MZ for most of the game. Yes it's possible it's a fake nuke and MZ is scum (I find this a little unlikely) but then if the nuke IS fake we find out when I redirect it and it doesn't hit. Either way I'm thinking of redirecting to NG. That's basically all he said on the matter before sending in the redirect. @Xata: I'll try to be more decisive in the future, I feel that's just how I speak though. I know Rayn or someone asked for reads on WoS and MZ but its really late so I'll do it when I wake up. | ||
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On July 09 2013 18:54 Xatalos wrote: I think you missed WOS's explanation. Aren't you reading the thread? Obviously scum. On July 09 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm a one-shot Hacker. I can redirect any nuke anywhere else once in the game. I've had a pretty decent townread on MZ for most of the game. Yes it's possible it's a fake nuke and MZ is scum (I find this a little unlikely) but then if the nuke IS fake we find out when I redirect it and it doesn't hit. Either way I'm thinking of redirecting to NG. On July 09 2013 01:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Well shit, Rayn's on board. DONE DEAL LADIES. On July 09 2013 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Should be, yes. Those were the posts between the roleclaim and the redirect so I looked at those and didn't see an explanation there, I guess I missed it somewhere else in the filter though. After that I thought most people were just ok with nuking NG. | ||
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Rayn asked me for some specific reads so here: WoS nuke redirect I don't find scummy because if he was scum the only reason for a redirect would be to gain credit which could only be done by redirecting the nuke to scum.Also, I really doubt that he would save a scum buddy like that as if one of them dies the other is sure to be caught. WoS was also accepted that Rayn's nuke claim didn't make sense for scum quite early. I think if WoS was scum he would have tried to pressure Rayn a bit more. So WoS is probably town. MZ is town, I don't have any evidence to the contrary and neither does anyone else I've seen. I still suspect Onegu. Looking at his filter the only read he's given is repeating Xata is 100% town. He's said this 3 times so far and uses it as an excuse to sheep. Rayn's claim doesn't make sense for scum so I don't suspect him. Best lynch targets are VA, Onegu, and DI. | ||
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On July 10 2013 05:53 austinmcc wrote: Maju, pretend you work in a nuke factory. Who do you give your first nuke to, someone who is townie and you trust to do townie stuff with it? Who would you give a nuke to if you want it in townie hands, but want to shake up the thread, have them do something odd with it that might spark discussion/hit scum with a longshot? Who would you nuke with a nuke that just causes the person to post all their thoughts? Giving the first nuke to someone I was unsure of would be more useful so I'd do that and make judgements of when they used the nuke and who they used it on. It seems Rayne would be the choice to shake up the thread considering what he did with his last nuke. I assume there was some plan behind it so if he was open about the plan it could do a lot of good. I'd use the thought nuke on Ace. In recent posts he's really only talked about Rayn and said DI is scum and avoided everything else so I wan't to see his opinions. | ||
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On July 10 2013 06:09 Xatalos wrote: LOL Dandel Ion got banned? Why? Is he modkilled or replaced? The ban reason is "stop shitting up mafia". | ||
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On July 11 2013 04:34 Xatalos wrote: Currently I'd most like to lynch MajuGarzett. He's clearly been online at various points, but has chosen to post fluff and a couple of reads here and there without actually being involved in the thread or scumhunting. Also noteworthy is the same suspicious reaction as austinmcc (a vague show of interest and then ignoring it) to rayn's claim. ##Vote MajuGarzett While not all my posts have reads in them, I don't think its fair to call them fluff. At the very least I was trying to gain more information with which to make decisions by pressuring other players. On the reaction to Rayn, I was in the thread and expressed interest, then I left and by the time I was back all the talk about Rayn's motives had happened and after reading it I wasn't suspicious of him. On July 11 2013 01:24 VayneAuthority wrote: oh and maju I am pretty sure is scum after reading his filter, doesn't form any original reads, doesn't give reasons for why people are town, scummy response to the rayn thing etc. it's pretty bad. Of the 4 people rayn set out this is the only one I feel comfortable sheeping. Dandel or maju today for me, gonna start a wagon on maju and see what happens ##vote: majugarzett VA says I never formed new reads but I think I was one of the first to talk about being suspicious of VA. I know I was suspicious of him before Firm Tofu brought it up. I also think my points against Onegu were novel. I would like clarification on how I was scummy on the Rayn thing unless its for the same reasdons that Xata stated. I'm willing to give DI's replacement some time. As there were others who suspected VA and none on Onegu ##Vote: VayneAuthority | ||
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Since it seems I might be lynched I have to use it by 10:00 GMT (+00:00) or the town loses a kill for nothing. Who should I nuke? | ||
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Actually town would lose a kill and a townie which is worse than nothing. | ||
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On July 11 2013 13:40 MajuGarzett wrote: Ok guys I have a nuke. Since it seems I might be lynched I have to use it by 10:00 GMT (+00:00) or the town loses a kill for nothing. Who should I nuke? Also I want to go to sleep before 4 AM so try to give your input quickly. | ||
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Xata claimed I added nothing to the discussion but I think that the two people I suspected early on were scummy at the time and have still not proven themselves to be town and are suspected by other players so I think they were pretty good reads and that I did add to the cases against them. I also need to point out I'm not necessarily scum just because jampi was town. He wasn't even my first choice, I just listened to town as a show of good will. For all anyone knows if there had been different people active in the thread advising me on who to nuke I would've targeted scum and opinions on me would probably be a lot different. The target of that nuke should have no effect on a read of me. I think there have been stronger and better substantiated cases made on people such as VA, austin, and geript than on me and I'm unsure why there's so little discussion going on before voting for me. It seems odd that no one is looking at other possibilities. | ||
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On July 13 2013 06:57 Xatalos wrote: MajuGarzett 1) His first content-post is very... weak and careful, basically focusing to just doing something for the sake of doing something and staying off the radar 2) Same theme continues with his second content-post during D2... weak and careful, nothing decisive or new to the discussion 3) Lots of useless fluff that appears semi-contributive on first look 4) A vague show of "interest" to rayn's claim, then conveniently going away until the matter was more or less already resolved That is basically the case against me and it really has nothing solidly scummy. Just some tendencies that can easily be explained by my inexperience with mafia. Geript shot down a nuke heading towards a player most people believed was scummy and neglected to use his power on much more townie people who were being nuked. Due to this he effectively caused an entire day of discussion to be wasted. It was the best thing that could happen for scum. Yet somehow there are 6 votes against me and only 1 against him. Xata advocated the lynch of austin just as much as mine and since then there has been further evidence against him while the case against me has remained stagnant. Despite this there is only one vote against him. CA has gone the majority of the game doing nothing on the excuse that he is drunk and new to the game. On July 09 2013 20:11 CaucasianAsian wrote: Dinner went quicker than expected Is it possible that there is a required role where you must claim unclaimed nukes? If not, then maybe he just wanted to stir up some action. In either case, I am really interested in why WoS has a town read on Maepak. That type of post is exactly what I'm being suspected for yet no one cares when CA does it. I feel town has been very stubborn in advocating my lynch and has began to tunnel. Look at the evidence and I don't see how it is possible to think the case against me is stronger than any other. Add to this the fact that I might die from the nuke and lynching me becomes completely foolish. Johnny even just finished an analysis proving so which disregards the fact that there is only poor evidence against me. If people truly think I am scum, think of this nuke on me as a bonus. Its a regular day with a regular lynch plus an XX% chance (the accuracy of the nuke) of hitting scum. If you lynch me you completely waste the point of a nuke. It makes far more sense to vote for the actual scummiest person here and see if the nuke hits. If it doesn't hit, lynch me the next day and no lynch discussion has been wasted. Also if you lynch scum and the nuke hits and I'm scum you're definitely reducing their kp instead of killing one person and maybe reducing kp. So, no matter what you think of me, lynching me today is an awful decision. In my opinion right now I think Geript is the scummiest. That nuke shot based on an assumption that was obviously wrong that, if truly innocent, he put absolutely no effort into researching, wasted a days discussion and flew in the face of what others in the thread were trying to accomplish. ##Vote Geript | ||
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On July 16 2013 08:55 johnnywup wrote: that makes no sense lol. MG is nuking Geript and MG is going to die today. Logical conclusion: Geript is town and MG wanted to get rid of another before he was gone. OR I'm town nuking scum. We should keep that option in mind. | ||
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On July 16 2013 09:01 johnnywup wrote: Yeah, or you're nuking scum I guess. Nice of you to participate in the thread, by the way. Do you have opinions on anything? Have you been reading the thread? Yeah, I've been catching up. Koshi - Seems pretty sincere and unhesitant, VA and Geript seem to dislike him just because they disagreed so even though VA was town I think he's wrong there. Oats - Seems town due to earlier actions but lately has been defending people based on that they're active which seems fishy. Still town though probably. Stutters - Town as a role making fake nukes is useful for getting info which only makes sense as town. Sentinel - Town Ace - Town Johhny - Town, he actively tried to motivate people to post and not give up, something scum wouldn't want Onegu - Still don't like him much, hasn't really done much analysis. SnB - Coasted off of other people's advice last vote, I do agree with him that lack of activity doesn't mean he is scum. Not that scummy I think. CA - Said he had a free day and planned to contribute 2 days ago so I don't like him but we shouldn't waste discussion on him. Hopefully someone can just nuke him. Alakaslam - Town WoS - Town Chez - I have no idea what's happening. Might all be a show to cover up scum motives. Both people being nuked seem scummy. I still feel town isn't really discussing my lynch, just proceeding with it. | ||
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On July 16 2013 14:42 geript wrote: No. I actually think that Stutters is 3P If Stutters is 3P how would ace know the nuke was fake like you claimed he did? | ||
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