[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia - Page 80

On July 09 2013 17:41 CaucasianAsian wrote:
sorry, just wanted to put it in my filter.

On July 08 2013 12:31 Abenson wrote:
Anyways I've unvoted from Johnny since although he looks kinda suspicious, it might be just newbie town. I think we can pay attention to him but not lynch him right away.
Gonna vote Chez. Interested to see what he flips and what motivated him to throw that nuke

On July 09 2013 17:48 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Meapak, ryan, and WaveofShadow.

So, Ryan nukes Meapak (doesn't claim), WaveofShadow redirects it, Ryan claims after redirected.

Why? Sorry, I'm still trying to catchup.

On July 08 2013 07:35 MajuGarzett wrote:
Ok, just caught up, sorry for being inactive

One of the people I find scummy is Vayne. He voted pretty early based off of one post and after that hasn't done much.


That post is the most of his thoughts he's given and all it is is repeating that he suspects Johnny and then making a read on somebody with no meaningful posts.

I feel he voted early to look eager in looking for scum and is trying to use that to go under the radar. To me it seems like little output from about 20 posts.


I agree with the suspicion about Onegu.



Here he says we need answers from Chezinu or Chezinu should be lynched but then votes in the same post. Why not wait and see if there's a reply? I think he might just be trying to start a bandwagon.


And here he justifies fluff posting as being new to the game. I don't think that makes sense, regardless of experience, its not hard to take some time between posts to write something constructive instead of just spouting fluff

##Vote: Onegu

Looking at Abenson's filter, it's hard to say much from 2 posts and since both posts are close together he might just be busy, but he really avoided saying anything about anyone.

On July 09 2013 18:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
So, what we know is that Ryan has the ability to nuke, and the ability to nuke secretly at that. I'm trying to think of a role where that would be good. It's obvious now that he has some role, either as a townie, or scum.

Overall, isn't it a stupid idea just role calling? Doesn't it put himself out as a target? Is Ryan really as dumb as to tell everyone he can launch secret nukes (unless it was his only one?)? The fact that he tells everyone he can launch secret nukes, is role calling saying he is dangerous. Is that really good for town? Either way, he is stupid for telling everyone he can launch secret nukes. Is he not? What is he trying to accomplish?

I have 2 scenarios:

1) Town nuker:
- Really blew up over Meapak pointing a finger at him, and wanted revenge by nuking Meapak. I don't know how they play mafia, but it assumes that they have some history.
2) Scum nuker:
- Meapak starts out very early accusing ryan of being mafia. Afraid of this, he nukes meapak. There may be more to the story, and possibly a history. He may be afraid of Meapak for being a good player, and wants to get rid of him ASAP. But if this is the case, why would he claim it?

I'm assuming ryan is a decent player, but I can't imagine a scum player quickly claiming a nuke. It does exactly what everyone is doing now, it instantly makes you suspicious. Not claiming it at first, and then claiming it later... Why would scum do this? It's super suspicious, and they know it.

Every scenario I can think of, it boils down to A) Ryan is a stupid townie who is angry at Meapak. or B) Ryan is a stupid scum scared of Meapak.

On July 09 2013 18:41 CaucasianAsian wrote:
I know mafia is a complete mindfuck of a game. Is it possible that he is mafia, and claiming the nuke, makes people think he is stupid, and thus not mafia?

let me explain:

Ryan claims nuke, thus claiming he is dangerous. This instantly makes him suspicious. But then as people realize that it's so obvious that he is suspicious that there is no way he can be mafia because why would mafia ostracize himself? Is it possible he is on a whole other level?

I'm probably over thinking things... fuck.

Did WaveofShadow explain why he redirected from Meapak?

On July 09 2013 18:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah I dont think that fits in with WoS normal playstyle I feel. Seems like a really hesitant play from a dude who like never gets mislynched.

On July 09 2013 18:50 MajuGarzett wrote:

Not really.



That's basically all he said on the matter before sending in the redirect.

@Xata: I'll try to be more decisive in the future, I feel that's just how I speak though.

I know Rayn or someone asked for reads on WoS and MZ but its really late so I'll do it when I wake up.

On July 09 2013 02:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

There's a difference in my mind between scummy lurking and I-can't-read-you-for-shit lurking.
NG was one of the former so I felt justified. Dandel in my opinion is also one of the former as I know Dandel tends not to give a shit in his scum games.