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WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:02 GMT

#698

MZ whose smurf do you think NG is?
The fact that he brought up the stupid Venn diagram makes me want to say BH but it would be too simple. He says he has a knowledge of my scumgame so someone in Les Mafia for sure.
I'm thinking DP/iamp/BH/Prom. Either way I want to see more from him because I'd like a better read. You and I appear to have similar thinking this game so I'd like to see if he really IS a good lynch today.

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:15 GMT

#700

On July 08 2013 10:10 VayneAuthority wrote:

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nope I'm good with the lynch I just see a lot of people getting cold feet on it so I gave some alternatives I'd agree with so my vote isn't wasted.

I don't tend to write long posts/cases until the game is much more developed so I am not going to be something I am not, sorry.

There's nothing to elaborate on Caucasian, his filter is 2 posts. The thing is his 2 posts were both pretty large scum traits in my opinion so I am fine with lynching him already.

What about them specifically? I don't see how you think it's enough to elaborate that you think it's not just a lurker lynch and then provide no reasoning.

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:16 GMT

#702

Like...I SORT of get it I guess (I just found where you called his posts filler and the old drunk post) but what is inherently scummy about that?

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:17 GMT

#703

Aaaand never mind found that too. ok
I've drunk posted before....I actually forget which game it was.
Was it Les?

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:19 GMT

#704

Sorry for triplepost. It couldn't have been Les, so I drunkposted as town.
So did BH.
Why is Caucasian's drunkpost different?

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:26 GMT

#709

Reharding NG:

On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:

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On July 08 2013 05:40 geript wrote:

On July 08 2013 05:37 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:

On July 08 2013 05:36 geript wrote:

On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:

On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu

There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:

On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:

On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:

On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:

On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?

And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?

Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu

How does this shit make him scum as opposed to just a new player?

He asked if Chezinu is, and I quote, "just crazy"

How does that make him scum though? I read the quotes. As a new player how is he supposed to know if Chez is, you know Chez, or if he's like BC.

When you played your first (town) game with chez you knew or found out right away what kind of player he was, and didn't waste your time on him. I was the same way. Any town player who sees someone acting so clearly insane and anti-town tries to look for an explanation, besides just "he is scum" because as a town player you don't trust anything or anyone. You don't trust the obvious. You see someone acting like Chez and you don't think "ah, this veteran is obvious scum" because that's not how you think. No, you see him acting that way and you ask "why", and not just rhetorically. You ask the thread. You find out he's insane. And you act on it.

That's not what Onegu has done here.

This is a reference to LX in which Geript was town, I was town, and Chez was scum (and dayvigged someone much in the same way he nuked here. He put more effort into trying to appear like a town dayvig though in that game but it's still eerily similar).
This means it's either Prom or BH who of my above list were in both of those games. I'd lean towards Prom as Prom relies heavily on meta which is how he analyzed me (I would argue somewhat incorrectly) thus far.

If it's Prom (or hell, any 'veteran') they would know better than to think Onegu would have a good idea of how to regard to Chezinu at this stage in their mafia careers, as Chez is one of the most enigmatic players out there. I was told to ignore grush in that very same game and yet I didn't ALL game, and have seen other newbies do the same. Why does he expect a newbie like Onegu to ignore Chez's scummy actions??

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:27 GMT

#710

On July 08 2013 10:23 Ace wrote:
I dont think it really matters if NG is a smurf anyway. Could be someone who has lurked and read a lot of games like Alakaslam.

Compare how NG writes to Alakaslam.
NG has initmate knowledge of playstyles and games, Alakaslam (no offense) reads the games and tries to look like a vet by trying to get in on in-jokes and name-dropping.
No comparison.

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:28 GMT

#711

On July 08 2013 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote:

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Because it wasn't just one post. BH and you came in and rambled to shit which is a lot different then being able to control yourself to only making 1 post and to explicitly say you are drunk and useless.

do you see the difference there?

I do. Interesting point. I don't think that was the game where I drunkposted btw though, because I know exactly the time I got drunk last and Les hadn't started then; your point still stands however.

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 01:36 GMT

#715

On July 08 2013 10:34 johnnywup wrote:
Whether or not he's a smurf is irrelevant. Focus on actions, not meta. Don't try to figure out who it is because that's a waste of effort that could be used to hunt scum.

Then ignore the point I'm making about who he is specifically.
It is obvious he is a smurf of some mafia veteran, or at least veteran enough to know of the games Geript and I have played in. I would think someone like him would know better than to expect that level of analysis (or the ability to 'ignore' the blatancy of Chez's scummy-seeming crazniess) from Onegu.

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 02:05 GMT

#719

On July 08 2013 10:59 Ace wrote:

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Ok let me try break this down from your pov:

NG has intimate knowledge of people's playstyles. More than just reading games but actually playing with us - he's a legit smurf.

He expected Onegu to be able to read Chez as a troll. When Onegu fails to do so NG votes him. NG also gives an explanation as to why he thinks Onegu's thinking isn't town motivated based on geript's play in another game.

This is where you think he is a smurf account.

Right now is this the way it went?

Are you about to drop some sort of Ace bomb on me?

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 02:11 GMT

#723

He very well could be Ace. It could be I am misreading into NG's intentions, but to me it looks suspiciously like a veteran player trying to formulate a case on an 'easy' target. Why would a smurf attack Onegu in such a way when he should know that Onegu is not necessarily likely to play the way he expects him to? Can you explain what you were thinking about this and if I am wrong?

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 02:11 GMT

#724

Ohai Oats.
Who scum?

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 02:36 GMT

#735

On July 08 2013 11:21 Ace wrote:

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Why did you nuke Xatalos? A real answer please

So he just ninja voted ZBoson.
Chez put way more effort into his game as scum in LX. I understand your reasoning for pushing Chez atm, but I can't help but get that kush feeling out of it----it essentially amounts to a policy lynch because we may get no information at all out of Chez, and it's entirely possible he flips town. I would call it one of those 'why are you pushing lynchbait' kind of things but it's not even like Chez IS lynchbait...he's on a whole other level.

You probably know him a lot better than I do. Is there a chance that there is some convoluted town motivation for what he is doing right now or could he be trolling us as town? If this really WILL be amounting to a policy lynch and no one knows or can expect more from him this game then it may make sense whether or not he is actually scum, though I don't know if I'd want to lynch him if we have strong scumreads today.

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 02:41 GMT

#740

I think I know where you're going with this Chez and I'm not sure if I believe you.

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 02:44 GMT

#742

On July 08 2013 11:42 Chezinu wrote:
The thing is, I'm already dead. Right when I got my role, I knew I was dead.

Then why would you need to do something about a nuke heading towards you if you were already did when you got your role?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

July 08 2013 02:56 GMT

#755

On July 08 2013 11:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Well chez appears to be dead so all you chez haters can now hop off the train and talk about Dandel with me.

There's not much to say about Dandel right now.
He lurks as scum and is disruptive.
He could very well be scum, but again, what kind of lynch do we want today? At least we do seem to be getting more out of Chez atm.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

July 08 2013 03:26 GMT

#773

List of ~~people~~ lurkers who barely posted, showed up and said they were 'catching up' or 'reading' and disappeared again:
Stutters
Abenson
FirmTofu

List of [s]people[s/] lurkers who barely posted, showed up and have unanswered questions from me:
SnB

List of why the fuck are you playing this game:
Ghost403
Dandel Ion

That is all.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

July 08 2013 03:29 GMT

#778

Put a star next to Abenson's name on my list.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

July 08 2013 03:31 GMT

#781

lolwut.
Abenson.
Loving the ninja Chez vote. Good thing you're reading the thread.

On that note, Ace, you were the one pushing Chez, what do you think if the info that was (sort of) revealed?

WaveofShadow

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July 08 2013 03:34 GMT

#784

On July 08 2013 12:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
lolwut.
Abenson.
Loving the ninja Chez vote. Good thing you're reading the thread.

On that note, Ace, you were the one pushing Chez, what do you think if the info that was (sort of) revealed?

Oh missed the Abenson post on the bottom of that page.
The question to Ace applies though.

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