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On July 15 2013 06:52 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh wait, SnB pushed gumshoe earlier on.
If he flips scum, well, SnB will prob be like confirmed town, barring some decent play frm him. I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to believe that necessarily. We're going to have a whole bunch of new info in a few minutes so sit tight.
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On July 15 2013 06:53 Stutters695 wrote: If the nuke kills MG I lied about it being fake and am thus scum. Once I flip town in that case Ace is then scum for lying about only getting one nuke(mine) and not stating that he fired a separate one. If the nuke is a dud I'm at least being partially truthful about my role regardless of if you actually believe my PM. Interesting.
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Hey Stutters. If you're town, where has your assistance to the rest of town been?
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It sounds more to me like he knows the nuke is going to drop for real.
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On July 15 2013 06:58 VayneAuthority wrote: why does this look like another scum bus again, why the fuck would gumshoe just ninja vote randomly as scum other than to give his teammates a chance to gain some towncred? If he's town he isn't playing to his wincon so he's either gamethrowing or scum :/
I feel like the only outcome here is that they told gumshoe to do this so the rest of them could get cred. Ding ding ding We have a wiener
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On July 15 2013 06:59 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:58 VayneAuthority wrote: why does this look like another scum bus again, why the fuck would gumshoe just ninja vote randomly as scum other than to give his teammates a chance to gain some towncred? If he's town he isn't playing to his wincon so he's either gamethrowing or scum :/
I feel like the only outcome here is that they told gumshoe to do this so the rest of them could get cred. Ding ding ding We have a wiener My favourite part is how Ace attempted to 180 just as I discovered gumshoe's ninjavote, so it could look like he naturally reached the conclusion before gumshow pulled his scummy shit.
Preflip associations but s'gotta be right, rite?
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Well this is why we lose imo. I feel bad but at the same time I don't because we couldn't win with Gumshoe playing as he was anyway. Alright my theory about Ace is wrong.
What does this mean for Stutters now, telling the truth?
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We needed so many more nukes this game for all the lurky shit that's going on. I will never understand why people sign up to play a game of mafia and then DON'T FUCKING PLAY
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On July 15 2013 07:04 geript wrote: I would like to point out... that this exact scenario is why I fucking wanted to lynch Maju. I could strangle people right now... starting with myself.
DO NOT FUCKING LET ANY ONE OF MAJU, ACE, AUSTIN OFF THE HOOK111111 LYNCH THEM BACK TO BACK TO BACK Alright. You gave me my chance now I give you yours. I do feel a *little* better about you now and I certainly can't risk being this wrong again. We lynch Maju tomorrow.
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lol I should have known I'd lose this game because I lose every 25-man game I've ever played in.
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I would fucking clusternuke half this thread. Yall are lucky I can't do shit anymore.
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On July 15 2013 07:17 Ace wrote: WoS you pushed the gumshoe wagon. Do you feel anyone on it is Scum that just wanted an easy lynch? I've spent way too much time on this game in the last little while. I'll answer this in a couple hours, just reminding myself in filter.
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Z Boson I'd say your list is pretty equivalent with my thoughts atm. I'll be back.
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On July 15 2013 08:11 strongandbig wrote: yeah you guys are all dipshits whatevs
idgaf See, the shitty thing about this is we can't even call it scummy because Gumsheo essentially did the same thing but without talking in thread.
Whoever said we can't win when people are playing against their wincon was right.
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On July 15 2013 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:17 Ace wrote: WoS you pushed the gumshoe wagon. Do you feel anyone on it is Scum that just wanted an easy lynch? I've spent way too much time on this game in the last little while. I'll answer this in a couple hours, just reminding myself in filter. Alright let's see. Ace I already mentioned I was so sure Gumshoe was going to flip scum that your miraculous 180 just as Gumshoe ninjavoted meant you were scum but I guess that's not true.
On July 15 2013 07:04 s0Lstice wrote: TARGET LOCKED
MajuGarzett (1): johnnywup], Ace, geript, [UoN]Sentinel, Alakaslam, Stutters695, CaucasianAsian
Stutters695 (0): [UoN]Sentinel, CaucasianAsian, Alakaslam, gumshoe
geript (1): WaveofShadow, MajuGarzett, Koshi
Z-BosoN (1): Chezinu, Onegu
austinmcc (4): strongandbig, Alakaslam, Onegu, VayneAuthority, Stutters695, geript
Chezinu (1): [UoN]Sentinel, VayneAuthority
gumshoe (7): Oatsmaster, WaveofShadow, Koshi, johnnywup, geript, Ace, Stutters695, Z-BosoN
strongandbig (3): Ace, Oatsmaster, austinmcc, johnnywup, WaveofShadow, Stutters695, gumshoe
TARGET: gumshoe was obliterated!
I dunno with 4 scum left I'd have a hard time believing there wasn't at least one on the wagon. Oats is town. Z-Boson I can't be 100% sure of...he didn't vote until right at the end but he was the first to jump on board when I suggested it. Koshi said he was going to sheep me so that's whatever. Geript literally just said 'you have my axe' after fighting against every lynch I tried to push during the day. Johnny and Stutters...? Like...I don't know what to really analyze from this; it was such a quick switch and then gumshoe essentially sealed his own fate by being dumb right at the end. Maybe it makes sense to look at who voted him BEFORE he did what he did and who voted after?
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Koshi's not scum. Pretty sure now. I think this is probably my last night with you guys at this point since it's pretty obv they won't mislynch me, it's only a matter of whether they think I'll actually be able to catch any of them at all, to which I'd say I don't even fucking know.
Anyway, I'll get out a list of reads to you guys before I die, surely I can't be wrong about all of them.
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On July 16 2013 05:26 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Gumshoe why you play like that . SnB is shitting on lynch, SnB, why did you shit on lynch and not provide alternatives? Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 01:51 strongandbig wrote: I'm down to lynch geript for using his defense on jampi, but I'd rather lynch Austin.
I don't understand why stutters would have given ace the nuke, then told us it was fake, if it was actually real and stutters is scum. That whole concept just doesn't really compute for me, what action would he have been trying to induce by the lie.
If people really think Maju is scum then I don't think it makes sense to let the nuke land "just in case" stutters was lying and it's real. If you think Maju is scum, lynch him. Then lynch stutters if you think him lying about his role is a scum tell. But we know he lied about his role at least once, how does it make a difference if he lied a second time and the first time was actually the true one.
doing a lurker lynch for no reason was stupid and was probably an idea pushed by scum. a last minute lurker switch on freaking day 3? just shows the town has no momentum to get anything done. probably the town can't get anything done at this point. but the town actually never got anything done in the first place. that's why austin and probably ace at this point are scum. if they were town and as active as they are being, this would never have happened. lucky for them that there are apparently no townies who care enough to actually try organizing people. lol really? So you calling me scum breh?
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Koshi - Mostly gutread which is why I don't think he's STRONGLY town, but he pretty blatantly sheeped me all of yesterday regardless of where I went. Kinda stupid to do as scum unless he knows me and how bad I am at picking out scum usually (he doesn't). Oats - Actively shot down nukes on townies super early. Makes no sense to do for towncred imo. Since him and Geript have the same role I would bet specifically in this case that there is no way they are both town, so if I'm wrong about Geript, he is scum.
Stutters - No fucking clue. Leaning town on him a little since fake nuke and all but meh. Sentinel - nuked scum.
Ace - Leaning town honestly. Can't be sure why, but he had plenty of plays he could have made as scum but didn't. For whoever says it makes sense as scum to shoot him early, Ace has a pretty hefty mislynch history recently and doesn't play in a 'cleanly' town way that people would expect him to, so he's difficult to read, hence good for mafia to leave up.
MajuGarzett - Fuck if I know but he's gotta die at this point.
Johnnywup - Not a superstrong townread but a town read nonetheless. His anger at the case I made on him early seemed genuine and he looks to be trying when it would be pretty easy just to lurk the fuck out since nobody pays much attention to him.
[green]Onegu/green] - Town. Pretty much has to be for that comment where he says he killed Tofu.
Geript - Not as strong of a scumread as I had earlier. Remember what I said about him and Oats and think about my case on him if we see flips on the people he was involved with earlier (ie MG)
Vayne - He really DOES change his playstyle from game to game. Whereas at one point this much activity and analysis could be considered a scumread, in his last game (where he was mislynched, hilariously) he played well and was town.
StrongandBig - I refuse to believe that everyone in this game is playing against their wincon so blatantly so kill this guy too.
Chezinu - No fucking idea. His play in LX looked a lot like this guy and he was scum.
Caucasianasian - Gutread. I dunno I can't see his scumteam letting him come back constantly and just post 'HAY GUYS I GIFF READS' and then disappears 80 times.
Alakaslam - This guy is psycho. To be fair I've never seen his scum play so I don't know if it would be as crazy but this certainly looks exactly like how he's been playing town thus far.
Austin - I have no idea honestly. I want to say with the effort he's thrown in over the last little while he'd be town but I just don't know him well enough to be able to tell for sure. I guess he did put in shit tons of effort like this in PTP and was scum....
Hmm. Too many townreads it seems. Have a look at Vayne. I'll downgrade him to null.
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