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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 16:46 GMT
#1278
On June 29 2013 01:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:28 FirmTofu wrote:
Does the nosy neighbor know who he visits at night?

I have to confirm but as far as I know he does NOT know who he visits at night. 'Aware of this behaviour' means simply that he knows he is a nosy neighbour.

Just as I suspected. Your thoughts, hzflank?


This doesnt change much, if he is NN it still means he was the only one who could have visited him. But we need to hear fromHurricane first.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 16:48 GMT
#1279
Ebwop

Except when I claimed Hurricane defended me and took his vote off of me, it wasnt until the scum team tried thier move that he got confused and he was tired. So wait for him to get back and respond.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 16:53 GMT
#1284
On June 29 2013 01:51 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:46 Onegu wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:36 FirmTofu wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:28 FirmTofu wrote:
Does the nosy neighbor know who he visits at night?

I have to confirm but as far as I know he does NOT know who he visits at night. 'Aware of this behaviour' means simply that he knows he is a nosy neighbour.

Just as I suspected. Your thoughts, hzflank?


This doesnt change much, if he is NN it still means he was the only one who could have visited him. But we need to hear fromHurricane first.

It explains Hurricane's behavior and why he couldn't trust you. It establishes Hurricane as town and not the mafia framer, which hzflank was worried about.

If Hurricane isn't mafia, then there are very few people left that could possibly be on a potential Alakaslam's scum team.

1) Obviously, someone on Alakaslam's scum team wouldn't be voting for Alakaslam at this point, so we can eliminate anyone doing that.

Remaining Options:
FirmTofu
StiMaDDict
LoneMeow

I know I am town and I think hzflank agrees, so hzflank would have to say that both StiM and LoneMeow are scum in this scenario. This doesn't seem very likely from my point of view.




I still dont understand how people can confirm a liar who has lied 2 times now to get votes on people he wants lynched.
And I believe my other points on you are still valid.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:19 GMT
#1289
On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.


Then with this why didnt I claim tracker? Why watcher? With your theory If I claim I tracked hurricane to Alakaslam wouldnt that be the best course of action with no risk?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:24 GMT
#1291
Ebwop also Hz figured out who my best town read was, I was trying to protect Hurricane. It doesnt matter if he is NN or a bluehe still visited Alakaslam while I was watching Alakaslam.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:27 GMT
#1293
On June 29 2013 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
What case do I make?

I call again to my initial reaction. Does that seem like a fabricated scenario? I was totally thinking I was agreeing with Onegu, not contradicting him. I was even laughing about green not keeping his eyes off pink!


And then what. My slow realization that I was starting a much bigger event...

Please explain how my reaction looks calculated at all.

Because its not, and it's OMGiS again. At least it may turn out well.


You have appered flustered this entire game it would look wierd for you to act confident with the counter claim. This isnt a defense.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:29 GMT
#1294
On June 29 2013 02:25 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 02:19 Onegu wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.


Then with this why didnt I claim tracker? Why watcher? With your theory If I claim I tracked hurricane to Alakaslam wouldnt that be the best course of action with no risk?

Because claiming tracker would get people to immediately consider the possibility that you are the mafia tracker not the town's tracker.

Both claims have equal risk until you realize that claiming watcher is smarter because no one can say that you are actually a mafia watcher.

I don't know why I'm telling you this because you have already thought all of this through.


The risk is no where near equal, what if two people visited Alakaslam I would have no answer if I fake claimed.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:31 GMT
#1295
On June 29 2013 02:19 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.


Then with this why didnt I claim tracker? Why watcher? With your theory If I claim I tracked hurricane to Alakaslam wouldnt that be the best course of action with no risk?


Also with your case for what reason would scum track hurricane?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:34 GMT
#1297
On June 29 2013 02:33 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 02:31 Onegu wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:19 Onegu wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.


Then with this why didnt I claim tracker? Why watcher? With your theory If I claim I tracked hurricane to Alakaslam wouldnt that be the best course of action with no risk?


Also with your case for what reason would scum track hurricane?

To see if he was blue. To try and decide whether he would be a good target for the following night.
I mean, you are scum, so you tell me.


I am not scum and you brought up the point in your theory, so it was a fair question.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:37 GMT
#1300
Besides there were better people to track who had dropped blue hints, like me, go back and look how I shut down anyone who was blue hunting.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:49 GMT
#1303
On June 29 2013 02:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Alright, I'm all caught up. In the end, one of the biggest Facts I've deduced from all this is that Onegu has made some incredibly bad plays, whether he's Scum or Town this game.

If anyone needs my opinion on something, now is the time to ask. Otherwise, I'm going to continue analyzing Aqua's argument.


Can you confirm if you are NN or Blue clearly and not just hint it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:50 GMT
#1305
Ebwop

Sorry the way I read it you did confim, or I wouldnt have brought you into this and I am sorry for that.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:52 GMT
#1306
On June 29 2013 02:50 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Oh come on. That's gotta be the most scummy question ever asked in this game.

Of course Mafia would want to know my exact role. How is that at all relevant to the current vote?!


Read all the posts, it hinges on if I am lieing or not, and basicly firms case againt me is about this. The entire thread blew up about if you are NN or knew what happened.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 17:55 GMT
#1308
On June 29 2013 02:54 FirmTofu wrote:
We don't need Hurricane to confirm unless it is critical to convincing hzflank/StiM/LoneMeow to vote for Onegu.
First one of those 3 people has to state that Hurricane's role will decide their vote, and then Hurricane can decide whether it is worth it to claim.

Ok I can agree to this.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 18:04 GMT
#1311
I had a null to slight town read on him, I only comented on the case on him to say it was illogical but the points on aqua were good points. I had very little interaction with him at all.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 18:20 GMT
#1313
Anyway I will be sleeping soon so if any one has more questions for me feel free to ask.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 18:25 GMT
#1317
On June 29 2013 03:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Yes. Onegu I need you to make a post (similar to my pre-NK requests to everyone) assuming you will be mislynched tonight. I need all your Scum and Town reads, and a brief justification for your feelings. If you are mislynched, the town is in a bad position, and we need as much information as possible about your unique experiences and interpretation on how this game has played out.

Don't feel like you have to make full cases on anyone, just give me your reads (gut feels are fine) that you think will be vital to the game going forward.

@Alakaslam

Ditto for you. Need a post of your reads in the event you are mislynched tonight.


Ok no problem. Give me a moment.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 18:30 GMT
#1319
Scum reads:
Alakaslam
FirmTofu

And either Lonemeow or Stim

Null reads

Aqua, I still want to say he is scum but he is my main defender so I do not know.

Townreads

Hz
Hurricane
Spicy

If I am lynched today you have to lynch Alakaslam first as he will be confirmed scum, second look at the liar who has lied to people 2 times now to get the vote he wants, then you have to decide between stim, lone and aqua useing your best ability and who is still alive after night kills.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 18:45 GMT
#1330
Ok i am off to sleep, if I am lynched GG lynch Alakaslam asap.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 29 2013 09:58 GMT
#1584
So just a thought you guys have me confirmed mafia, so why not wait to lynch me doesnt it give you more info to see where my vote goes
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