Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII - Page 7

On June 29 2013 01:36 FirmTofu wrote:

Just as I suspected. Your thoughts, hzflank?

On June 29 2013 01:51 FirmTofu wrote:

It explains Hurricane's behavior and why he couldn't trust you. It establishes Hurricane as town and not the mafia framer, which hzflank was worried about.

If Hurricane isn't mafia, then there are very few people left that could possibly be on a potential Alakaslam's scum team.

1) Obviously, someone on Alakaslam's scum team wouldn't be voting for Alakaslam at this point, so we can eliminate anyone doing that.

Remaining Options:
FirmTofu
StiMaDDict
LoneMeow

I know I am town and I think hzflank agrees, so hzflank would have to say that both StiM and LoneMeow are scum in this scenario. This doesn't seem very likely from my point of view.

On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.

On June 29 2013 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
What case do I make?

I call again to my initial reaction. Does that seem like a fabricated scenario? I was totally thinking I was agreeing with Onegu, not contradicting him. I was even laughing about green not keeping his eyes off pink!


And then what. My slow realization that I was starting a much bigger event...

Please explain how my reaction looks calculated at all.

Because its not, and it's OMGiS again. At least it may turn out well.

On June 29 2013 02:25 FirmTofu wrote:

Because claiming tracker would get people to immediately consider the possibility that you are the mafia tracker not the town's tracker.

Both claims have equal risk until you realize that claiming watcher is smarter because no one can say that you are actually a mafia watcher.

I don't know why I'm telling you this because you have already thought all of this through.

On June 29 2013 02:19 Onegu wrote:


Then with this why didnt I claim tracker? Why watcher? With your theory If I claim I tracked hurricane to Alakaslam wouldnt that be the best course of action with no risk?

On June 29 2013 02:33 FirmTofu wrote:

To see if he was blue. To try and decide whether he would be a good target for the following night.
I mean, you are scum, so you tell me.

On June 29 2013 02:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Alright, I'm all caught up. In the end, one of the biggest Facts I've deduced from all this is that Onegu has made some incredibly bad plays, whether he's Scum or Town this game.

If anyone needs my opinion on something, now is the time to ask. Otherwise, I'm going to continue analyzing Aqua's argument.

On June 29 2013 02:50 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Oh come on. That's gotta be the most scummy question ever asked in this game.

Of course Mafia would want to know my exact role. How is that at all relevant to the current vote?!

On June 29 2013 02:54 FirmTofu wrote:
We don't need Hurricane to confirm unless it is critical to convincing hzflank/StiM/LoneMeow to vote for Onegu.
First one of those 3 people has to state that Hurricane's role will decide their vote, and then Hurricane can decide whether it is worth it to claim.

On June 29 2013 03:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Yes. Onegu I need you to make a post (similar to my pre-NK requests to everyone) assuming you will be mislynched tonight. I need all your Scum and Town reads, and a brief justification for your feelings. If you are mislynched, the town is in a bad position, and we need as much information as possible about your unique experiences and interpretation on how this game has played out.

Don't feel like you have to make full cases on anyone, just give me your reads (gut feels are fine) that you think will be vital to the game going forward.

@Alakaslam

Ditto for you. Need a post of your reads in the event you are mislynched tonight.