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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 18 2013 07:35 GMT
#7
/in

Maybe this game I wont be only scum left after day one :-)
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 18 2013 17:11 GMT
#18
On June 19 2013 02:00 StiMaDDict wrote:
/in
will try less tunneling this time..


Hey sometimes you just gotta go with it, just dont let it get to you so much. Hopeing we get some of the rest from the last game come forward they werent really noobs but it was fun and I think made me learn more than if just uber noobs like me.

Waiting for UMASI to join BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 18 2013 18:24 GMT
#20
On June 19 2013 03:19 Umasi wrote:
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAwaitidontgetit

/obs


Just a joke about tunneling you. Not have time to play? Hope you can play
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 18 2013 18:52 GMT
#22
On June 19 2013 03:48 Umasi wrote:
oh alright, haha :3
I do have time to play, and I might if it doesn't fill up, but I got really annoyed during the last game. Even though we won, it wasn't that fun? And I spent a lot of my time just dumping my thoughts compared to organizing them, because I really had no idea what they were trying to say :3
Didn't get mislynched, which made me happy, I thought it was pretty much certain t.t

So yeah if this goes a while without filling I'll probably hop in.


Ok dont let it get to you, you played well ,sorry about tunneling you if I made it not fun for you that was just part of my strat to stay alive...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 20 2013 17:15 GMT
#51
Where is iVlosk?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 17:28:48
June 20 2013 17:27 GMT
#54
I have PM him but no response..

Just dont want to wait a month for this gameto start like the last one :-(
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 03:23:43
June 21 2013 03:22 GMT
#58
What does WIFOM mean
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 21 2013 04:57 GMT
#67
On June 21 2013 13:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Just noting that if GreyMist allows I will be playing two mafias. This one and Aperture Mafia2: Portal Edition.

Looking forward to both! I'm really versed with using my phone, so I have a bit of an edge.... I can keep up on Mafia anywhere there is 3G.

you have to / in and the other game you are talking about most likly wont start until after this one is finished.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 21 2013 07:53 GMT
#71
Oh snap 2 more
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Onegu
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Last Edited: 2013-06-21 15:49:19
June 21 2013 15:28 GMT
#76
Umasi comeon down!!

Also I sent a PM to some guy who was trying to join a normal game and asking if it was ok for noobs.
Sk8rguy227 or something like that
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 22 2013 06:02 GMT
#93
On June 22 2013 14:39 Xzavier wrote:
Or...





its WIFOM...

GG WP
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 09:37:10
June 22 2013 09:12 GMT
#95
On June 21 2013 03:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:
/obs played my max newbie games but they are still fun to watch


I think you can play one more since it is 3 or fewer, meaning if this is your 4th game that is still ok.

I have sent some PM's out also, hope we can get this started asap.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 03:52 GMT
#193
On June 24 2013 11:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Ugh, let's avoid the 'should we lynch lurkers talk' shall we?

I'm gonna go ahead and post the play I had written earlier this week analyzing this game from a pro-town perspective. If any of my analysis is off-base, please jump in and steer me back on track.

Pre-written segment starts now:

Alright, chums. First let me state that in NO WAY is the following message a call for a mass claim. If you are the Parity Cop (assuming you even exist), DO NOT SAY SO. In fact, if you're our town's parity cop, it's probably better if you appear to ignore what I'm about to say completely. Same goes for Trackers and Watchers. DO NOT CLAIM. But read carefully, because you are a big part of whether we succeed or fail (whether we follow my plan or not).

Now everyone, pay attention: Looking over the roles, the extremely juicy pro-town potential jumped right off the page at me, as I hope it did to many of you. Trackers can tell us if a person visits someone. Pretty good, but not nearly as good as the Watcher, who can pick a person and sees all who visit them. Obviously, this means we can try to guess the guy who's going to be mafia-killed, and we have a couple shots at seeing if he either gets visited, or manage to Track the mafia member who happens to be tagged to do the deed. Not great odds on either, but still better than nothing.

My plan utilizes each role to their maximum potential. Because we are not guaranteed to have a Tracker, Watcher, or even a Parity Cop, it's important that for the roles we DO get, we use them efficiently. The Watcher needs to guess the target they think will be mafia-killed tonight. This is up to your judgement, but I'll make a recommendation later today.

The fun part comes with the Tracker and the Nosy Neighbor (and by extension Parity Cop). The Tracker should secretly track the Nosy Neighbor. AGAIN, MR. OR MRS. TRACKER: DO NOT CLAIM NOW. If we have a Nosy Neighbor, they should claim IMMEDIATELY. Once the Tracker can confirm that the Nosy Neighbor is in fact moving around at night, but not visiting the person who got Mafia-killed, WE CAN ESTABLISH HIM AS TOWN. This is a big deal. The Parity Cop can then tag the confirmed Nosy Neighbor as Town and start measuring up suspects against them. If he gets a 'Different' claim, the other person is Scum. If he gets 'Same', they are town.

I can elaborate further, but I feel like you can all piece together whatever holes are out there without me holding your hand even further. This is an extremely pro-town set-up (assuming there aren't a bunch of red herrings in which case, Hi I'm sponge, and I just gave you all the book on me.) and I'd like to move fast before mafia can organize their thoughts in their private little forum. If we move fast, and force independent action, they lose one of their many advantages.


Haveing a early day one post about reveals is very bad, no matter how good or bad someones role is. You have to remember scum have a tracker also so if they track the NN to someone they get a stronger read he is blue than just NN, if it is revealed then scum tracker doesnt have to worry about that possibility and just blue hunt. Second it isnt a big deal to confirm someone as town, it is a big deal to confirm someone as scum. You idea has alot of holes and the logic behind it is terribad. As such you are noob town to me.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 04:02 GMT
#197
Also on the whole lurker thing looking at last game and seeing what people think about it in other forums if we dont have a strong read at the end of day 1 lynching a lurker does a few things, first it is slightly more likly to hit a noobish scum as they dont want to post very often as they are afraid to give away information. Secon we as town make a stance post substance or die. We force scum to post, the more we force scum to post the more likely we are to find them.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 04:06 GMT
#198
On June 24 2013 13:00 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:52 Onegu wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Ugh, let's avoid the 'should we lynch lurkers talk' shall we?

I'm gonna go ahead and post the play I had written earlier this week analyzing this game from a pro-town perspective. If any of my analysis is off-base, please jump in and steer me back on track.

Pre-written segment starts now:

Alright, chums. First let me state that in NO WAY is the following message a call for a mass claim. If you are the Parity Cop (assuming you even exist), DO NOT SAY SO. In fact, if you're our town's parity cop, it's probably better if you appear to ignore what I'm about to say completely. Same goes for Trackers and Watchers. DO NOT CLAIM. But read carefully, because you are a big part of whether we succeed or fail (whether we follow my plan or not).

Now everyone, pay attention: Looking over the roles, the extremely juicy pro-town potential jumped right off the page at me, as I hope it did to many of you. Trackers can tell us if a person visits someone. Pretty good, but not nearly as good as the Watcher, who can pick a person and sees all who visit them. Obviously, this means we can try to guess the guy who's going to be mafia-killed, and we have a couple shots at seeing if he either gets visited, or manage to Track the mafia member who happens to be tagged to do the deed. Not great odds on either, but still better than nothing.

My plan utilizes each role to their maximum potential. Because we are not guaranteed to have a Tracker, Watcher, or even a Parity Cop, it's important that for the roles we DO get, we use them efficiently. The Watcher needs to guess the target they think will be mafia-killed tonight. This is up to your judgement, but I'll make a recommendation later today.

The fun part comes with the Tracker and the Nosy Neighbor (and by extension Parity Cop). The Tracker should secretly track the Nosy Neighbor. AGAIN, MR. OR MRS. TRACKER: DO NOT CLAIM NOW. If we have a Nosy Neighbor, they should claim IMMEDIATELY. Once the Tracker can confirm that the Nosy Neighbor is in fact moving around at night, but not visiting the person who got Mafia-killed, WE CAN ESTABLISH HIM AS TOWN. This is a big deal. The Parity Cop can then tag the confirmed Nosy Neighbor as Town and start measuring up suspects against them. If he gets a 'Different' claim, the other person is Scum. If he gets 'Same', they are town.

I can elaborate further, but I feel like you can all piece together whatever holes are out there without me holding your hand even further. This is an extremely pro-town set-up (assuming there aren't a bunch of red herrings in which case, Hi I'm sponge, and I just gave you all the book on me.) and I'd like to move fast before mafia can organize their thoughts in their private little forum. If we move fast, and force independent action, they lose one of their many advantages.


Haveing a early day one post about reveals is very bad, no matter how good or bad someones role is. You have to remember scum have a tracker also so if they track the NN to someone they get a stronger read he is blue than just NN, if it is revealed then scum tracker doesnt have to worry about that possibility and just blue hunt. Second it isnt a big deal to confirm someone as town, it is a big deal to confirm someone as scum. You idea has alot of holes and the logic behind it is terribad. As such you are noob town to me.


Wait, hold on. Is it confirmed that there is a scum-side Tracker? I would not have proposed such a plan if this game was guaranteed to have Mafia spawn with a Tracker. I know that it was POSSIBLE for them to have a tracker. But I was unaware that it was so likely as to be a certainty. Also, in this game it IS a big deal to confirm someone as town since we may have a Parity Cop.

Regardless, my idea is a non-starter and doesn't need to be discussed as an actual plan of action further. (It can obviously still be discussed by people wanting to make cases for and against me.) Perhaps I'm some brilliant mastermind who just wanted to draw out the players who could see the flaw in this plan. (Spoiler: I'm not.) I'm still not 100% convinced that the idea is without merit, but this is likely user error on my part.


It is possible they dont have one but in the last few games they have given scum 2 blue abilitys and since there are only a few possible roles this time it is 50/50 they have one
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 04:09 GMT
#199
On June 24 2013 13:00 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:52 Onegu wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Ugh, let's avoid the 'should we lynch lurkers talk' shall we?

I'm gonna go ahead and post the play I had written earlier this week analyzing this game from a pro-town perspective. If any of my analysis is off-base, please jump in and steer me back on track.

Pre-written segment starts now:

Alright, chums. First let me state that in NO WAY is the following message a call for a mass claim. If you are the Parity Cop (assuming you even exist), DO NOT SAY SO. In fact, if you're our town's parity cop, it's probably better if you appear to ignore what I'm about to say completely. Same goes for Trackers and Watchers. DO NOT CLAIM. But read carefully, because you are a big part of whether we succeed or fail (whether we follow my plan or not).

Now everyone, pay attention: Looking over the roles, the extremely juicy pro-town potential jumped right off the page at me, as I hope it did to many of you. Trackers can tell us if a person visits someone. Pretty good, but not nearly as good as the Watcher, who can pick a person and sees all who visit them. Obviously, this means we can try to guess the guy who's going to be mafia-killed, and we have a couple shots at seeing if he either gets visited, or manage to Track the mafia member who happens to be tagged to do the deed. Not great odds on either, but still better than nothing.

My plan utilizes each role to their maximum potential. Because we are not guaranteed to have a Tracker, Watcher, or even a Parity Cop, it's important that for the roles we DO get, we use them efficiently. The Watcher needs to guess the target they think will be mafia-killed tonight. This is up to your judgement, but I'll make a recommendation later today.

The fun part comes with the Tracker and the Nosy Neighbor (and by extension Parity Cop). The Tracker should secretly track the Nosy Neighbor. AGAIN, MR. OR MRS. TRACKER: DO NOT CLAIM NOW. If we have a Nosy Neighbor, they should claim IMMEDIATELY. Once the Tracker can confirm that the Nosy Neighbor is in fact moving around at night, but not visiting the person who got Mafia-killed, WE CAN ESTABLISH HIM AS TOWN. This is a big deal. The Parity Cop can then tag the confirmed Nosy Neighbor as Town and start measuring up suspects against them. If he gets a 'Different' claim, the other person is Scum. If he gets 'Same', they are town.

I can elaborate further, but I feel like you can all piece together whatever holes are out there without me holding your hand even further. This is an extremely pro-town set-up (assuming there aren't a bunch of red herrings in which case, Hi I'm sponge, and I just gave you all the book on me.) and I'd like to move fast before mafia can organize their thoughts in their private little forum. If we move fast, and force independent action, they lose one of their many advantages.


Haveing a early day one post about reveals is very bad, no matter how good or bad someones role is. You have to remember scum have a tracker also so if they track the NN to someone they get a stronger read he is blue than just NN, if it is revealed then scum tracker doesnt have to worry about that possibility and just blue hunt. Second it isnt a big deal to confirm someone as town, it is a big deal to confirm someone as scum. You idea has alot of holes and the logic behind it is terribad. As such you are noob town to me.


Wait, hold on. Is it confirmed that there is a scum-side Tracker? I would not have proposed such a plan if this game was guaranteed to have Mafia spawn with a Tracker. I know that it was POSSIBLE for them to have a tracker. But I was unaware that it was so likely as to be a certainty. Also, in this game it IS a big deal to confirm someone as town since we may have a Parity Cop.

Regardless, my idea is a non-starter and doesn't need to be discussed as an actual plan of action further. (It can obviously still be discussed by people wanting to make cases for and against me.) Perhaps I'm some brilliant mastermind who just wanted to draw out the players who could see the flaw in this plan. (Spoiler: I'm not.) I'm still not 100% convinced that the idea is without merit, but this is likely user error on my part.


Scum may have a framer also so confirming 1 town isnt that big of a deal. You should really focus your time on scum moresothan town
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 04:12 GMT
#202
Ebwop

There are only 3 blue roles for scum so it is 66% they have one.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 04:36 GMT
#213
On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow


We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.

You wound me.

Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.

The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.

Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.

No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)

Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.

1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?

Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.

2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.

##Vote: Chromatically


As I have said before he provides a buffer to protect other blues, if there is a tracker for scum and it is likely and they know who nn is they can look to find other blue roles. Who cares if scum claim NN later we kill them anyway. If something wierd happens and the only explanation someone can give is I am NN we lynch them. All NN reveal does now is take away what little protection blues have.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 04:43 GMT
#220
On June 24 2013 13:41 Xzavier wrote:
and a noisy neighbor claim means jackshit to me lol.

Imo. nobody claim. just scumhunt.



Exactly
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 24 2013 04:50 GMT
#225
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 13:44 Alakaslam wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 13:27 FirmTofu wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow

[/QUOTE]
Lurkers: fyfy, Aquanium, LoneMeow, StiMaDDict, Alakaslam (Sorry, I know you said you were eating, but for all intents and purposes, you haven't posted at all.)
Let's keep a close watch on these guys before we start voting.[/QUOTE]

No no this is fair, I will read up real quick and post something worthwhile.

[url=http://imgur.com/jcBflCz][img]http://i.imgur.com/Axm9kMg.jpg[/img][/url]

There we are for the meantime.

I was the last one to leave the table.

I am thinking of how I can establish my innocence. Everyone should be doing this. The more town we confirm, the better off we are finding/accurately reading scum. I also think that I've messed that up, since I actually would like FirmTofu's case against me. I kind of went all Blazinghand, and I'm just not him.

+ Show Spoiler +


Nor am I Kenpachi. But I admire these two, and have only read I swear this is normal mini mafia and Aperture Mafia. So I was being all aloof and whatnot- Mi ne freggo, you know.

Note though, both of those games they were Town most of the time.

So for establishing MY innocence:

I haven't been the best town so far, I posted mostly defensive fluff, and the above in the spoiler. HOWEVER, as making the thread difficult to read is not the best thing for town, I put it in there. You are not obligated to read the contents of the spoiler! But feel free to.

I haven't posted much, posting from the table is kind of rude just as is texting from the table. But I managed, and that was probably unwise. I plan to read the thread, and give a case for people IN SPOILERS with a TL;DR above each one so as to keep stuff organized. Remember, scum wants: Confusion, lack of info, and difficulty to read thread.

So town: Keep it organized, I will be doing the same, and see you in a couple minutes. Let's go find some scum!


[/QUOTE]

How is this post in any way organized? This post is just more fluff also I dont know where you are going with any of your thoughts.
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