EPTAlso did you confirm you visited alakaslam Hurricane? I am reading amd it looks like you did confirm.
I watched Alakaslam and he was visited by my biggest town read in Hurricane.
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Onegu
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Also did you confirm you visited alakaslam Hurricane? I am reading amd it looks like you did confirm. I watched Alakaslam and he was visited by my biggest town read in Hurricane. | ||
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Onegu
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On June 28 2013 18:38 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Could be, but is it likely? What's to stop the mafia from deducing that I was Watcher Onegu's target, and sending their Tracker into the thread to claim? You made it obvious as soon as I revealed you took your vote on me, the you said I made it to obvious and then you were the one saying hardcore I shouldnt say who I saw visit. | ||
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Onegu
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First they dont want a confirmed blue walking around, second Alakaslam was picking up significant heat already so if this ploy doesnt work so waht he was likely to be lynched anyway and I dont think he was very useful to scum anyway how he was playing just made confusion amd brought attention to himself takeing this risk to take out a confirmed blue is well worth the risk. | ||
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hzflank
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Onegu
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hzflank
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Imagine there was no counter-claim: We know that your number one town read visited Alakaslam. That is not useful information. And you were still not in serious danger of being lynched. There was some moderate pressure being applied to you, but nowhere near enough to force a blue claim. If you had saw someone visit Chromatically then it would be different. But quite frankly knowing someone visited Alakaslam did nothing to help us in the day 2 scum hunt. I am still going over this. I have some good reasons as to why you are town, but also two good reasons as to why you are scum, which are: It makes little sense for you to watch Alakaslam on night one It makes little sense for you to claim that you did so when you claimed. | ||
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hzflank
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hzflank
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What are the odds that there is a Mafia Tracker who tracked Hurricane? | ||
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hzflank
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Onegu
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On June 28 2013 20:07 hzflank wrote: I just want to put this out there for anyone who cares to answer: What are the odds that there is a Mafia Tracker who tracked Hurricane? It is possible, look at it this way I watch alakaslam, a scum tracker watches hurricane go to alakaslam, I claim then it is easy for them to put out a fake claim because they have all the pieces. | ||
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hzflank
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Specifically, we need to look at why the scum chose to track Hurricane. This is important. Btw, it was no accident that our cop died on night 1. Look at Chromatically's filter, he was telegraphing cop. Unfortunately the town did not pick up on this a provide any cover (by acting like a cop). The scum picked up on it though and therefore they are obviously trying to work out who has roles. | ||
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Aquanim
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On June 28 2013 20:07 hzflank wrote: I just want to put this out there for anyone who cares to answer: What are the odds that there is a Mafia Tracker who tracked Hurricane? Better than you might think. I think I saw one or two small slips from Hurricane indicating he had some kind of role, so there's no reason scum couldn't have as well. This is still a good point, though. Another interesting point is: If Onegu is scum, how did the mafia know that nobody else visited Alakaslam? Wallpost along these lines is incoming as soon as I check it for typos and bbcode faults. | ||
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hzflank
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If I were Hurricane, my first reaction would of been: "I can confirm Onegu's claim so Alakaslam is scum". Btw, I have been through all the possible scenarios. I was weary of telling the scum who our blues are, but to be honest I already did that a couple of pages ago because I am a compete idiot. So, either... Onegu is town Alakaslam is scum Hurricane is Mafia Framer Onegu is town Alakaslam is scum Hurricane is town JK, tracker, or NN Mafia Tracker tracked Hurricane Alakaslam is town Onegu is scum Hurricane is town JK, tracker, or NN Mafia Tracker tracked Hurricane Either the scum tracked Hurricane, or Hurricane is the Mafia Framer. | ||
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Aquanim
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On June 28 2013 20:31 hzflank wrote: I do not like the fact that Hurricane's first reaction was: "The mafia tracked me and Onegu is scum". If I were Hurricane, my first reaction would of been: "I can confirm Onegu's claim so Alakaslam is scum". Btw, I have been through all the possible scenarios. I was weary of telling the scum who our blues are, but to be honest I already did that a couple of pages ago because I am a compete idiot. So, either... Onegu is town Alakaslam is scum Hurricane is Mafia Framer Onegu is town Alakaslam is scum Hurricane is town JK, tracker, or NN Mafia Tracker tracked Hurricane Alakaslam is town Onegu is scum Hurricane is town JK, tracker, or NN Mafia Tracker tracked Hurricane Either the scum tracked Hurricane, or Hurricane is the Mafia Framer. Why does the Mafia Tracker have to have tracked Hurricane in the second instance? Onegu's power would let him know that Hurricane visited Alakaslam, and Alakaslam's claim does not reference Hurricane's actions. | ||
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hzflank
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Aquanim
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On June 28 2013 20:40 hzflank wrote: Because the mafia did not know who Onegu's number one town read was. Why did they have to know? Alakaslam's claim that Onegu visited Hurricane (as opposed to visiting anyone else) could just be a coincidence. | ||
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hzflank
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Aquanim
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On June 28 2013 20:42 Aquanim wrote: Why did they have to know? Alakaslam's claim that Onegu visited Hurricane (as opposed to visiting anyone else) could just be a coincidence. On June 28 2013 20:43 hzflank wrote: That's a big gamble for them to take. They have no reason to take such a big risk when they are winning. Let me rephrase this: Alakaslam could claim that Onegu had visited anyone other than him and it would have made Onegu just as guilty. The fact that Alakaslam happened to claim that Onegu had visited the person who Onegu in fact saw is irrelevant to the scum's plan if Alakaslam is scum. | ||
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hzflank
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On June 28 2013 20:49 Aquanim wrote: Let me rephrase this: Alakaslam could claim that Onegu had visited anyone other than him and it would have made Onegu just as guilty. The fact that Alakaslam happened to claim that Onegu had visited the person who Onegu in fact saw is irrelevant to the scum's plan if Alakaslam is scum. You are correct. Thank you. | ||
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hzflank
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Onegu is town Alakaslam is scum Hurricane is Mafia Framer Onegu is town Alakaslam is scum Hurricane is town JK, tracker, or NN Alakaslam is town Onegu is scum Hurricane is town JK, tracker, or NN Mafia Tracker tracked Hurricane | ||
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