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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:25 GMT
#1069
On June 23 2013 08:23 Coagulation wrote:
well we will find out tonight.


You do realise if you're vigi and broadcasting your shot, there's only one scenario in which you don't get roleblocked, yes?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:37 GMT
#1075
On June 23 2013 08:36 Coagulation wrote:
how the fuck are you people getting town reads on marv. hes playing so scummy.....


no I'm not, and repeating the mantra over and over doesn't make it so either.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#1078
On June 23 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote:
he doesnt even give a shit if im town or not entire day 1. he took zero initiative to get a fucking read on me.... thats not townie marv.. I get drilled day 1 every game when he town.


That's a flat-out lie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#1080
On June 23 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote:
he doesnt even give a shit if im town or not entire day 1. he took zero initiative to get a fucking read on me.... thats not townie marv.. I get drilled day 1 every game when he town.


That's a flat-out lie.


On June 23 2013 05:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 03:25 Coagulation wrote:
Marv so far has completely failed to put any pressure at all on me. He seems content with leaving me fucking off calling him scum like herpderp because he knows its not gonna gain traction. Instead hes focused on the bigger players in the game cause he doesnt see me as a threat.. town marv wouldnt be so passive about me IMO.


I'm just catching up before my shower.

Are you serious? I always ignore you day 1 because you're completely worthless. You're just completely uninteresting and there's no point interacting with someone who just says pointless shit for no reason.

This is the first time I've seen you try to make a "sensible" comment but it's bullshit and it stinks horribly. How much did we interact on day 1 in the last omgus game we played? Did I even talk to you once?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:42 GMT
#1083
On June 23 2013 08:41 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote:
he doesnt even give a shit if im town or not entire day 1. he took zero initiative to get a fucking read on me.... thats not townie marv.. I get drilled day 1 every game when he town.


That's a flat-out lie.


Uh noperz


Go find me our interactions in that omgus game then. I'll wager you'll find practically nothing. "Yepperz"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#1084
I've given up on you and I've given up on omgus, because no-one there plays the game, and if they do play the game it's merely to call other people mafia with no reason / bad reasoning / lies.

The worst of it is, I can't even take the no reasoning / bad reasoning / lies as a scumtell, because it's just a habitual thing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#1086
And if you're not capable of understanding this with how the last game I played there went down, you're absolutely insane.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 23:58 GMT
#1091
On June 23 2013 08:55 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:43 marvellosity wrote:
I've given up on you and I've given up on omgus, because no-one there plays the game, and if they do play the game it's merely to call other people mafia with no reason / bad reasoning / lies.

The worst of it is, I can't even take the no reasoning / bad reasoning / lies as a scumtell, because it's just a habitual thing.


so you fucking admit your acting fucking different to me now. and I dont give a shit what you say about the skill level at omgus that has nothing to do with this game.


So how about going to find that interaction we had on Day 1 in that game? For the third time at least: you're gonna find nothing.

My plan ever since internally groaning when I saw you sign up was to ignore you until I had good reasons to possibly think you were mafia. Which I still don't have. Get over it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 00:01 GMT
#1092
By the way coag, it's nothing to do with skill level, and everything to do with effort.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 00:10 GMT
#1094
It's also nothing to do with liking you, dear. I think you're lovely. I think the effort you put into a game of mafia makes you a tool within that game of mafia, and that's it. I'm really surprised you couldn't sense some of this from our last game together, and hence I don't understand in any way whatsoever why it would be a surprise to you that I've behaved as I have towards you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 00:13 GMT
#1095
Anyhoo, back tomorrow guise.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#1259
On June 23 2013 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
cause i feel like his play in this game is way different from his play in ISWEAR. There he just occasionally posted null reads and stuff and never really interacted with the thread. Here, he pushed me, push shiao pi. So when marv has bad reasoning for both GK and Yamato, its really not great. Doesnt mean right = good reasoning for yamato.



My reasoning is good, but you are bad. Sorry dude.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:13 GMT
#1261
On June 23 2013 15:23 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Adam
Thanks for the feedback. No one really brought it up before and no one really talked about it after I posted so I just wanted to make sure I was somewhere on the right track.

@GK
You do bring up a good point with Marv. Those posts illustrate your point very well, but they're not too far out of the way a townie who is simply misreading would post. I'll wait until Marv makes a rebuttal to make a real decision about his scumminess.

I'm going to bed. Looking forward to seeing more people post tomorrow.


you're joking right? What did I 'misread'? If GK was town and I wanted to lynch him instead of DP, I sure as hell would have done it differently than pushing him a couple of times an hour before lynch while simultaneously saying repeatedly I'd kinda like to see DP flip as well. If you think that's how I'd play as scum you have nowhere near enough respect for my scumplay.

On June 23 2013 14:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Anyway, it looks like I've gotten everything out of Oats that I will for a while.

I'm not as sure that he's scum anymore. He's responding fairly quickly and not showing very much guilt while doing so. While his answers are incoherent and unprepared, they do make sense provided that he was calling me scum in order to "poke" me and see how I'd react.

I still find him "poking" somewhat uncharacteristic for his town-game (he's usually much more direct/forceful with his reads), but I'll need to sleep on it and see what his actual reads end up being before I make a final judgement call.


I pretty much agree with this post in its entirety.

I also think rayn's push on Hapa is looking pretty insane right now. Hapa just doesn't look like mafia at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:20 GMT
#1262
Oatsmaster
cDgCorazon
ShiaoPi - his continued absence today looks *really* bad. He's on a different timezone so he's spent the whole of Sunday not being here at all. Scummy as fuck.
Hapahauli - looks really townie to me after catching up
DarthPunk
Ange777 - pushed DP lynch
marvellosity
goodkarma - really not sure, will have to see where his suspicions/interactions with me go.
Coagulation
Adam4167 - his posts read natural, haven't looked in any depth though
yamato77 - told you so
ObviousOne - was blatantly supposed to be the mislynch yesterday. He comes the most confirmed town to me after this flip
raynpelikoneet - was looking really townie to me, but this tunnel on Hapa is ridiculous
slOosh - just not sure

Somewhere along the line I have too much green somewhere I guess.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:22 GMT
#1265
Yeah I know right
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:24 GMT
#1267
Anything you want to talk about while we're both here, Ange?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:29 GMT
#1270
On June 23 2013 20:24 Ange777 wrote:
Marv, I don't understand how you can give Adam a townish read when he actually voted for the "wrong" person. He did replace someone so yes, he get's some more time but how can you put Adam above Sloosh? Sloosh's vote was the one vote that secured the DP lynch.


I *think* I have a pretty good grasp on Adam's posting style as town and mafia, and at the moment I'm not seeing the mafia (stilted, contrived vs more open, etc).

You're right though, slOosh probably does deserve more green.

I'm also well aware that it is "scum-motivated" not to be on the scum wagon, but given Adam's circumstances I find it difficult to hold against him, it's really really hard to say he wouldn't have done what he did as a townie too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:40 GMT
#1273
On June 23 2013 20:34 Ange777 wrote:
To be honest I really don't see scum ShiaoPi right now. Yes, his inactivity is troubling but in I Swear he showed that he can actually play scum differently. Reverting back to his absolutely lurking scum meta from the past just simply does not make any sense for me.



Given he obviously finds playing scum difficult, given his past, it wouldn't surprise me at all if having to play 2 scumgames in a row was very demoralising.

Personally I find playing scum very difficult and when I have to play more than one in succession it wears me down.

Excusing someone for lurkiness when there's even less reason, imo, not to be in the thread as *town* isn't very good reasoning.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1277
On June 23 2013 20:38 Ange777 wrote:
That would leave us with your other scum read goodkarma. I am not so sure whether I really can believe that we had two scum as our lynch targets on day 1 ... seems unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely. I haven't seen much from him to actually change my mind about his play but in light of the flip I am unsure about lynching him. I still want to see a second scum read from him.


Happens more often than you think, I ran (and got) mayor in LIX based on lynching between 2 mafia candidates, I got in trouble in Fruity for opposing a mafia lynch to push another mafia lynch, in Dr Who the lynch was between two mafia, Hydra 2 as well.

That said I understand what you mean, but it's pretty hard for me to exonerate GK especially as two people besides me on the wagon (Cora, Hapa) I don't think are mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1278
On June 23 2013 20:43 Ange777 wrote:
Marv, actually I would like you to explain more about your read on Cora and rayn as well.



rayn seems to me to have put in some of the most effort on Day 1 into solving the game. A lot of his posts show inquisitive thinking and trying to determine motives. He just seems very interested in solving the game. I feel somewhat less strongly than I did on Day 1 for reason already mentioned, so we'll see where he goes from here.

I agree with... um... someone? :D who said that DP flipping red actually makes Corazon look quite a bit better than DP flipping green. If they're mafia together then Corazon really didn't try to push the lynch off DP onto GK at all. The issue with this is that it relies on the assumption that GK is green, which isn't one we can really make with any certainty at this stage. Other than that his posts read genuine enough, his bitch argument with me is the same bitch argument we always seem to have when he's town. He seems to care although his absence around the lynch is a bit concerning.
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