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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:33 GMT
#1149
Do let me know if you have any serious, well-justified suspicions on me. Otherwise, I really have no reason to defend myself from someone not willing to listen.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:34 GMT
#1150
On June 23 2013 12:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
DP flipped scum hapa.


What's your point?

How does that affect GK's alignment?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:35 GMT
#1154
On June 23 2013 12:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TLDR;
I think my case on you Hapa was very clear. I'm not a fan of quoted posts and shit, i said what i saw in your play and i think you are scum. Why is this so hard?


It's not clear. Half of it is based on Yamato being scum, and the other half is being based on things I didn't do while I was asleep.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:36 GMT
#1155
On June 23 2013 12:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 12:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 12:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
DP flipped scum hapa.


What's your point?

How does that affect GK's alignment?

my point is that I rethought the game, read GKs filter when I woke up and realized that HE WASNT SCUM.
WOOHOOOOO.




I don't mind you leaning town on GK. However when you're assuming he's town for the sake of making arguments against other players, we have a problem.

There is a big leap between thinking someone is town and assuming that I wasn't voting for scum.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:40 GMT
#1159
On June 23 2013 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nothing is based on yamato being scum. wtf are you saying?


Literally half of your case that you asked me to answer was based on my views on Yamato. Do you want me to quote your own case for you? Surely you can read it.

On June 23 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and nothing is also based on things you "were doing when you were asleep".


Yes it is. You were basically accusing me of dropping suspicion on you then leaving. When I posted something at 5am in the morning as my final thoughts before I went to bed. I obviously had no chance to elaborate on my suspicions, since I was drooling on my pillow.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:41 GMT
#1160
On June 23 2013 12:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hapa, how in the world can you not see that the 'you didnt vote scum, you are scum' is a joke?
How.


So is your scum-read on me a joke then? Cause that's literally the only substantial thing you've said about me being scum.

Hell, since when does Oats joke about scum-reads? You death-tunnel people as town.

Death-tunnel.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:52 GMT
#1162
Regarding Yamato,

I have a huuuuuuuuuuuuge+ Show Spoiler +
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge
game history with Yamato. He's someone that not only have I caught as scum (notably in Red Team's Prize), but he's also someone I talk about the game with fairly frequently. I understand how the guy thinks, and our interactions will be far different than two random players on TL.

So yes, I read Yamato as town pretty darn quickly because he's someone I can meta extremely well. Moreso than any other player on this site (maybe except for iamp, possibly marv).

As for dropping my scumread on GK, yes I did drop it at the time because I agreed with what Yamato was saying. Also one of the reasons I didn't want to lynch GK was because when I filter-dived him in Les Mis, I noticed a comment about how he never reads his role PM on Day 1. When marv proved that wrong, you'll notice that my drive to lynch him resumed pretty quickly, and he's one of my current scum-reads... or well he was until Oats started assuming that GK was town for the sake of casting suspicion on me.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:55 GMT
#1164
Like for emphasis, Yamato and I have done 3 podcasts together.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 03:58 GMT
#1167
I was answer this portion of your suspicions:

All i was saying was that you viewed yamato as town (if you can read the case ffs) with very little reasoning, which sets off alarm bells for you. So no, i have never said yamato's alignment has something to do with yours (besides the fact that i thought you were both scum, which i have changed my opinion on - but that has NOTHING to do with the case on you).


I viewed yamato as town with "very little reasoning" because of my absurd familiarity with his playstyle.

and why did you not say this about GK before the flip? I asked you about it.


As for this, I did say all of this. Not directly to you, but everything I'm saying to you is in my filter directed at others.

I don't mean to offend you, but I didn't take your case very seriously, and given that I woke up a couple of hours before the lynch deadline and had virtually no chance of getting lynched, I had more pressing concerns (i.e. finding a scumread) to deal with.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:01 GMT
#1169
This is why I'm the 2nd hardest player to mislynch on TL btw.

(the first being iamperfection)
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:02 GMT
#1171
afjhakwejfnasmdfnasmdnf

I just addressed your case and you are not responding to me oh my god
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:03 GMT
#1173
Are you interested in listening?

Hell if you're not interested in listening to my defense, atleast talk to me about Oats.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:03 GMT
#1174
On June 23 2013 13:02 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:
This is why I'm the 2nd hardest player to mislynch on TL btw.

(the first being iamperfection)


Kitaman would beg to differ.


Oh I totally missed a lot of names (Syllo, Sandro, Radfield, etc). Just for effect :3
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:06 GMT
#1176
On June 23 2013 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 13:00 Adam4167 wrote:
Then why say this:

On June 23 2013 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I asked you why you were dropping off your suspicions on your MOST SCUMREAD, GK. That is fucking relevant as we just know DP flipped scum and you did not vote for him. Obviously you are full of shit.

kthxbye.


What point are you trying to make with the underlined if not that Hapa wasnt on the DP wagon?

You underlined it, i did not. I was saying Hapa was on GK wagon and i don't think he never pursued it as he would as town (see my original case). I am not as cheap to say "Hapa is scum because he was on the wrong wagon" as i do know that means nothing. Now, sleep.


NO!

Talk to me about Oats!

Be a man and stay awake!
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:11 GMT
#1181
On June 23 2013 13:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FUCK I HAVE SAID OATS IS TOWN, I HAVE GIVEN REASONS FOR IT ALSO!


No but you clearly have not paid attention to the last few pages!

When you wake up tomorrow, take a look at our conversation on page 57-58, particularly the end.

Oats is a guy as town that psychotically wants his scumreads to get lynched and die in a fire. He thinks I'm scum, gives a reason for it...
On June 23 2013 12:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 12:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 23 2013 12:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 12:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol why you give up?
BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM.

Anyway yeah Scum is Hapa and Marv currently.


If marv and I were on a scum-team with DP, this town would have been all sorts of fucked yesterday.

wifom
also I thought you said you werent good at scum


Are you going to substantiate your reads or not?

You didnt vote for scum. You scum.

and no im not gonna substantiate my reads at this point of time.


...and then "o welp it's a joke calm down hapapapa"
On June 23 2013 12:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hapa, how in the world can you not see that the 'you didnt vote scum, you are scum' is a joke?
How.


Since when does Oats joke about his scum-reads? Town Oats wants them to BURN with the fire of a thousands suns. His mentality when attacking me is so far off anything I've seen from town Oats that it's absurd.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:13 GMT
#1182
On June 23 2013 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
if you can't read my filter and see what do i think of Oats you are lazy as fuck or have other intentions.
Now, I REALLY AM GOING TO BED. CYA TOMORROW.


I know your reasons for Oats being town. Pre-lynch, those were my reasons for thinking Oats was town as well.

However things have changed good sir. You can read any of the volume of info I've posted on Oats for why I've changed my mind and think your reasons are invalid.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:14 GMT
#1183
I KNOW YOU ARE AWAKE RAYN. YOU CANNOT RESIST PLAYING THIS GAME.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:19 GMT
#1187
On June 23 2013 13:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey hapa.
did you read the 2nd part?
Show nested quote +
and no im not gonna substantiate my reads at this point of time.

yeah.
Yeah.
Deliberately twisting my words.


No I'm not. Why are you joking about someone you think is scum? Why are you waffling about instead of substantiating your reads?

You don't do that as town. You literallyt ake every opportunity to take a dump on your scurmeads when you're town.

Also Im town, so I guess your meta read is inaccurate. poo.


Nope.

1 reason that we can discuss is I feel Yamato wasnt even CLOSE to playing to his town meta day 1. So how in the world do you think that Yamato is town for meta reasons. HOW.


He was not playing to his stereotype, but he was playing to a meta that I've heard him talk about repeatedly over Skype.

You're the last person who should be lecturing me about how to meta and how to read Yamato.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:22 GMT
#1188
So again, Oats, we're in a situation where you think I'm scum, and we're both awake.

Why are you not substantiating your reads? How is that pro-town?

When you went after me in I Swear, I was the towniest motherfucker in the thread, yet you were not afraid at all to throw things at me. And now the second I confront you about your read on me, you go into a shell.

What. Is. Your. Case. On. Me.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:26 GMT
#1190
On June 23 2013 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Except Ive probably played with yamato more than you.
being right doesnt mean you are town.
Also do you not remember going for his throat mid d1? When did this supposed metaread come into play?


This meta-read comes in due to his responses after I went after him. Duh.

Show nested quote +
You don't do that as town. You literallyt ake every opportunity to take a dump on your scurmeads when you're town.

:o.
nope.

Show nested quote +
No I'm not. Why are you joking about someone you think is scum? Why are you waffling about instead of substantiating your reads?

because its night and I cant be arsed to make a case with no one to convince.


What are you scared of?

It's not like your case will get deleted. Hell no one being around hasn't stopped you from making cases before.

Hell Adam and Cora are here. Convince them.
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